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Planets can form around binary stars

Life on a planet orbiting two suns can be a bit complicated. Two sunrises, two sunsets, two radiation fields, but despite this their formation is possible, according to research based on the discovery of molecules necessary for life in a gas cloud surrounding a double star

In a paper published in the December issue of the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics, Joel Kastner and his team suggest that planets may easily form around several types of binary star systems. A disk of molecules discovered surrounding a pair of young binary stars in the Sagittarius group suggests that many of these systems may contain planets.

"We believe that the gas molecules surrounding two stars represent a "smoking gun" type of evidence indicating that a Jupiter-type planet is developing around a binary system, and of course this is possible," added Kastner, a professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology.

Kastner used the 30-meter radio telescope operated by the Institute for Military Radio Astronomy (IRAM) to study the ratio spectrum of molecules from a binary star system known as V4046 Sgr that lies about 210 light-years from our solar system. (V4046 Sgr means the 4,046th brightest variable star in the Sagittarius group). The scientists found the raw materials for star formation around the pair of stars in wide circulation, including carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide in the gas cloud surrounding the stars.

The young stars, approximately 10 million years old, orbit each other at a very close distance, only 10 solar kataries, and the duration of the orbit lasts two and a half days. "In the case of stars orbiting each other in such great proximity and considering the nature of the gas in terms of the types of molecules it contains, which is similar to the gas disk we see around single stars, there is a reasonable connection between the process of creating planets around single stars and planets orbiting double stars." Kastner said.

Planets forming around young stars like the V4046 Sgr pair may leave behind gas remnants, a potential clue for astronomers looking for planets. Recently, direct imaging of planets orbiting the single stars Fomalhaut and HR 8799 has unequivocally proven the existence of planets outside the solar system, although over 300 such planets have so far been discovered indirectly. In the spring, Kastner and his team plan to use IRAM to search for remnants of gas left over from the formation of the planets orbiting HR 8799.

Kastner hopes to compare the molecular profile in the remnant gas surrounding the single star HR 8799, with the gas surrounding the double star system V4046 Sgr. Kastner is not a planet hunter himself, but he encourages other scientists to look closely at V4046 Sgr to see if planets are forming around the pair. "We can't know what kind of planets can form around binary stars or even if they eventually form at all," Kastner said. "It's not something established. We only proved its theoretical feasibility, but I do not know of a single observation where a planet orbiting double stars was actually discovered. I hope someone will be watching and looking for such planets around V4046 Sgr.

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  1. Avi,
    There is not enough information to say with confidence that extraterrestrials only exist in the imagination.

  2. I don't understand why people feel so free to mix imagination with science, with everything in the secret to imagination (also a follower of the Madev - but that won't necessarily make me join a cult that believes in the story I read, just with an open mind).
    Just comparing yourself to Copernicus and other honorable people is insulting since they were at least based on facts and calculations, and the people who prevented them from expressing their theories are usually more "spiritual" and metaphysical people - I think you are confused as to which side you are on Doron 🙂 and in addition they at least knew what it was frequency 😛

  3. Hi Doron, I read what you wrote, it especially made me feel that you have no idea what you are saying.

    You can understand a little of what you are saying and share with me at the desired frequency. I have a very advanced frequency scanner.

    Thanks.

  4. Hugin:
    It is clear that we do not know everything, but a sane and honest person does not make claims that he does not know.
    Regarding your question about frequency - it was actually already answered when I asked Doron about his definition of frequency.
    If I say that the frequency is the number of occurrences per unit of time, then a high frequency is a high number of occurrences per unit of time and a low frequency is a low number of occurrences per unit of time.
    Was it really that hard to understand?

  5. Michael/Doron
    A. It depends on how you calculate the steps: 3 steps forward, 1 step backward or 2 to 2 or 3 backward 1 forward...etc (or total signals/phenomena on a low or high frequency 'carrier' wave in fixed time units/modulations?). Not to be sarcastic, we still don't have the total visibility points for those actual data and the reflections, at this point we can only tap.
    By the way, Michael, and how do you define 'low-frequency'-'high-frequency' for simple people like us?

  6. Doron:
    Regarding your comment 8 - I get the impression that there are those whose fear of retreating is so great that they make sure not to move forward so that there is nowhere to retreat.
    People talked like you in the Middle Ages. Do you think what has happened since then is progress or regression?

  7. Doron in:
    You are still welcome to define what a frequency is.
    How often do I have to ask you to do this to get you to respond?

  8. Yes, Galileo Copernicus and Zoll Warren also talked nonsense
    Each in his own time, and the Inquisition made order...
    Once the guardians of religion, and once the guardians of science,

    And there were some who looked for general teachings that would contain everything
    But everything in time, it is revealed little by little

    What to do is the nature of life
    Gaining knowledge, and sometimes retreating [knowledge is lost]

  9. to Doron I didn't say you can't talk about esoteric things. I don't love it, but if there is an opportunity to disprove this nonsense I do so gladly. This is if you haven't noticed the purpose of the series of articles and not to spread nonsense. It is written in every few paragraphs.

    Frequencies and extraterrestrials and all kinds of nonsense are only found in one place - in the imagination. Please spare us pseudo-scientific jargon. It is of no use and adds nothing.

  10. 2012 is a marker date
    Although my father is against presenting esoteric things on this site, he is tempted by the subject of the date, the prophecies associated with it, and the Mayan calendar.

    As I mentioned the "Mayans" marked their count in 2012, because this date was/is known as a change date they decided not to mix the times before the date or the one after it.

    Others also knew about these times, so there are many prophecies of the end and change around this date. For example, in Judaism there is no prophecy of the end, only the coming of the Messiah. This time is known as a very positive time but with a drastic change from the time before it. The Maya also thought that the times after the end of the calendar 2012 are special and very good times.

    And regarding intelligent life, there are those who claim that they are "meeting it" already now. But if the frequency is one that is not currently known/found in the accepted standard, then they say it does not exist!

    But soon, within a generation, all this knowledge will be clearly available to everyone on a consciousness+technological level, and other "life" forms will be discovered. Some of them simply live among us but at the moment we don't notice them [a matter of frequency] and another part will really make contact with us, nice and clear that every skeptic knows that something has fallen... and the truth, the perspective that will be created/added to us will help peace to dwell on earth. We will become inhabitants of planet Earth in a universe teeming with life..

    It will suddenly turn out that there are black holes and there are white ones, and that quantum works overtime in our universe. And the abilities that will be added to us will shorten distances drastically.

    And you will be surprised, but we will learn everything very quickly,
    And similar to what exists today, some will be able to choose to walk, and cook over a campfire. Others travel by car, fly by plane and watch TV.

    The technological development and consciousness in front of us, is nothing and nothing of what we have been through in the last 100 years or in the last 20 years. Even the sky is not the limit..

    Doron b

  11. Doron in:
    Since you probably know the process and the milestones until we meet other intelligent life in the universe, do you have an exact date when we will have a date with aliens?
    And if possible then also the correct frequency..

  12. Doron in:
    Please explain the word "frequency" and how it relates to our case.
    To remind you - in our language (common people) we use the word "frequency" to indicate the number of occurrences per unit of time.

  13. occur around double solar systems. The exceptions are us, with our beautiful blue planet. We are in an unexpected place precisely in order not to be disturbed, to quietly complete our investigation.

    The joke is on us, we are looking for life in the universe and asking if there is life?
    And the universe is bustling with life, but at other frequencies, frequencies we are getting very close to these days. Because of the approach and the near transition to these frequencies, there is a very accelerated development in the last century, and especially in the end and the beginning of the 21st. All the climatic mess that will get a little worse, and even the financial and economic mess, stem from our near transition "to a universal universal system".

    And in football, we are at the end of injury time. before showering and returning home.

    There is no proof other than the great change in our world
    But it is what it is...what happens.

    Doron b

  14. I suppose the intention is:

    Two sunrises, two sunsets, two radiation fields

    (hard in the morning...)

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