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In the last twenty years we have discovered a lot of planets, so why haven't we found aliens?

A new book: "Meetings for the milk - a search for intelligent life in the universe" by Hagai Netzer and Ami Ben Best tries to put the findings in order, and to understand what else needs to happen in order for us to discover intelligent life outside of Earth

The cover of the book: Meetings for the Milk by Hagai Netzer and Ami Ben Best, published by Aliyat HaGeg Books. Why haven't we discovered intelligent life in space?
The cover of the book: Meetings for the Milk by Hagai Netzer and Ami Ben Best, published by Aliyat HaGeg Books. Why haven't we discovered intelligent life in space?

In the last twenty years we have discovered a lot of planets, we have accelerated artificial intelligence, so why haven't we discovered aliens? A new book: Encounters for the milk - a search for intelligent life in the universe" by Hagai Netzer and Ami Ben Best tries to put the findings in order, and to understand what else needs to happen in order for us to discover intelligent life outside of Earth. The book was published by Attic Books.

In 1999, "Journey to Reason" was published, the previous book by Netzer - an astrophysicist and professor emeritus at Tel Aviv University and Ben Best - a journalist, popular science and fiction writer, blogger and innovation consultant. At the end of the nineties there were two important discoveries in the field of astrophysics that turned this science on its feet still in its infancy: the fact that the rate of expansion of the universe is increasing and not slowing down as they believed until then, something that required a force opposite to the force of gravity - a feature known as "dark energy" (which even today is still not fully understood , and also its complement - the dark matter), and the second discovery - that planets are common objects in the universe, and come in all sizes and distances from their suns, including among others in what is known as the "life zone". They are joined by innovations in fields that apparently do not belong to the field of astronomy - big data and artificial intelligence, which also cause and will cause revolutions in the field of astronomy.

Sophisticated means of observation, including ground and especially space telescopes that were designed to study these two phenomena and which led to many discoveries, in particular of planets, which number in the thousands but their number will increase rapidly as the scientists track tens of thousands of "candidates". There is no doubt that these are only the limitations of our observation, and that almost every star has a planetary system surrounding it.

In an interview with the Hidan website, the two explain the apparent contradiction: "Since 1999, our knowledge in many fields has changed from one end to the other. Suddenly we are dealing in a field that speaks to the general public." Netzer explains.

And Ben Best adds: "In the last twenty years, more and more facts and scientific discoveries have been added that show almost beyond any doubt that there are countless, millions of planets just in our galaxy that revolve around suns, some of which are quite similar to our sun. Many of the halo planets are Earth-like with the same conditions, the same distance from the sun, the same temperatures and this is when we know that the chemistry is the same throughout the universe (amino acids are constantly being discovered in space), and we also know that the same laws of nature, the same physics are here, and when you see all the things Goddess, how is it that we know there are similar planets, how is it that as of this moment, not even one living molecule has been discovered outside the Earth's atmosphere?"

Shortly before going to press, the two had time to update the book about their winning the award Nobel Prize in Physics for 2019 of the discoveries of the first confirmed planet outside the solar system, Pegasi 51b, which effectively opened the new era of astronomy, which is reflected in the book.

From the movie Encounters of the Third Kind - the moment of the encounter with the aliens PR photo
From the movie Encounters of the Third Kind - the moment of the encounter with the aliens PR photo

Conversations about life, the universe and everything else, in everyday language

"In the book we brought the scientific discoveries and the main scientific facts and raised the questions to a higher level." Ben Best says. The book includes a series of conversations between a scientist and a skeptic, in which we talk in everyday language about the exact same questions, how come we haven't discovered anything and also touch on a huge variety of questions not only about the beginning of the universe and the beginning of life." Ben Best says.

Netzer explains: There are nine conversations of this type that deal with all the main questions. Of course some of them deal with the issue of life? "How is it that no other intelligent species has been discovered with an emphasis on the possibility that someone should have visited us by now if in other places life forms have evolved even to a degree similar to ours."

"We also discuss in everyday language big questions about the universe and the big bang, the future of the earth including the climate crisis, and whether we will be a technological species in 200 years, and whether we will not be destroyed by an asteroid." Netzer says and adds: "We are discussing the possibility that the development of any kind of technology will be stopped at an early stage. And maybe those who will carry the culture will be systems based on artificial intelligence? It could be that we are in the last biological stage, maybe tens or hundreds of years until another species is created, a technological robot that will speak a completely different language that we will not be able to understand, so the question of what they are doing in space is irrelevant. The whole way of thinking is going to change."

Ben Best: "In some of the questions we rely on science fiction plots that become more realistic by the moment. The skeptic asks the scientist if there are aliens much smarter than us who live on planets orbiting much older suns, the skeptic also asks the scientist if intelligent species have evolved, what would they look like, what is their story? If there is a meeting, what will happen at the meeting, what can we ask them, what will they tell us?"

According to Ben Best, the authors do not avoid discussing the ultimate questions, for example Nick Bostrom's idea of ​​simulation according to which it is impossible to rule out the fact that we are actually actors in the simulation of the universe, but give each argument the right perspective. "We allow ourselves to raise hypotheses and speculations. But always be careful not to read in the book about conspiracy theories such as the flat world or abduction by aliens arriving in UFOs." In the book, by the way, there is a whole chapter dealing with the UFO phenomenon. And also in unresolved questions such as what was before the big sucker?"
"Here is a brave scientist and an uninhibited skeptic raising all these questions." Summarizes Ben Best.

The book has a combination of updating the scientific aspects in popular language, along with an in-depth discussion recommended for anyone who wants to understand the long-term significance of the discoveries, in particular for the future of humanity. This is worth reading in the book "Meetings for the Milk - Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe".

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  1. Uri, you're just getting yourself into trouble. In the same way you can ask "in what universe does that giant baby you describe exist"?.. Thinking of the universe as a tiny component within a more complex system does not solve the question "where did this more complex universe come from"? And in the end it's just a round-the-clock chase after the tail

  2. Maybe you need to think a little outside the box. What if the earth is like an electron that is inside some atom in the belly of a growing baby. The animal on the electron would understand the force of gravity, because nothing falls apart around it, but at the same time it would manage to perceive that the body around it grows and changes, and would not understand how this happens. Perhaps the growth of the universe is due to the fact that we are inside something and because of our smallness (our small size) we fail to perceive that we are inside a system that grows and changes and has externalities. They keep talking about multiple universes and a system that resembles a bath with soap bubbles, but a soap bubble doesn't grow and the universe does. Maybe it's more like an evolving creature and we are somewhere inside it without being able to understand that there is an external system to the universe?

  3. I don't like the analogy to ants that many "television scientists" like to use.. We study the ants and find quite a lot of interest in them even if they are much inferior to us in terms of the level of intelligence. I believe that if advanced aliens existed, they would be curious about us and try to contact us in some way. A reasonable possibility is that we are flooded with a rain of alien communication on a daily basis but we do not have the tools to decipher it or even receive it, just like the ant does not understand that someone is zooming in on it with a huge camera..

  4. "How can it be that as of this moment, not even one living molecule has been discovered outside the Earth's atmosphere?"
    Maybe it's because there is no such thing as a "living molecule"? There are molecules that are products of life processes and/or building blocks of life processes. To discover a living creature you have to find something much more complex (in terms of informatics) than a molecule.
    There are two options for this:
    1. Find a communication product (such as voice, writing carved in rock, radio signals, etc.)
    2. Find a complex creature at least at the level of a living cell.

    The whole second option is not relevant to us because we are at least at this stage enthralled by the solar system. We will not find a complex creature unless it falls on our head.
    The second option is divided into local communication, which again - we will not meet for the above reason, and interplanetary communication. Bacteria, worms, fish, chimpanzees and also humans in the cultural stage where works such as the Odyssey, Shakespeare's plays and "The Origin of Species" were created - do not communicate with any interstellar technology.

    The radio waves that we consider interstellar communication and that we only started broadcasting about 100 years ago will take thousands of years to reach the edge of the galaxy, not to mention intergalactic communication. We are blind and deaf to any other interstellar communication, if it exists.

    So what's the wonder?

  5. If any proofs of extraterrestrial life were found, they would certainly be hidden from the public... we could also say that in our immediate environment one light year away for example: let's say no aliens were found, the universe is so vast that different types of life surely exist in it, we will also add the dimension of time, when we observe the planet Distant, life may have disappeared from there or may not have been created yet. Our little mind has indeed developed a lot, but we are infants in relation to the knowledge that is found somewhere in the universe.. Beyond that, our desire to look for extraterrestrials can be in our hearts if hostile and developed beings find us. All in all, we need to think about progress in exploring the unknown of the universe and what is hidden there with wisdom, patience and caution.

  6. What stupid people believe in the big bang? It is possible that such a huge explosion (on a cosmic scale) created atoms with an exemplary order of a nucleus and an all-encompassing electron, and all this from an explosion hahahahaha

  7. I don't understand the cover of the book, the particles look too regular to represent stars. Does anyone know what this is?

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