This hypothetical issue came up for discussion at a conference held during the Science Festival in Bradford, which dealt with the question of what message should be transmitted to the aliens and whether we will be the initiators of the transmission. The discussion was held in order to promote the "breakthrough" project, which offers a million dollars to the person who offers the best message. The competition is open to the general public
Will intelligent extraterrestrials interpret a message from Earth as a cyber attack? This was one of the issues discussed at the event as part of the science festival organized by the British Scientific Association, which dealt with formulating the first message to intelligent extraterrestrials and the question of whether to transmit it proactively or just send it as a response to a transmission from an extraterrestrial culture.
The speakers at the event were the members of the British branch of the Sti organization competing for a million dollar prize donated by Russian internet billionaire Yuri Milner, as part of a larger $100 million project initiated by Russian billionaire Yuri Milner, in which Prof. Stephen Hawking is also involved, and which aims to upgrade the The ability to receive intelligent radio signals from space. (The competition is open to the general public, not just experts).
On the competition website it is explicitly stated that the "Breakthrough Initiatives" is not obliged to broadcast the message that will be chosen. "This is a way to learn about the potential language of interplanetary communication and to advance the discussion of the ethical and philosophical issues related to communication with intelligent beings outside of Earth."
The main activity of the STi project today is to listen to radio signals that may be transmitted from other intelligent civilizations using powerful radio telescopes and computer software capable of scanning thousands of frequencies. However, there are those who believe that we should also shout into space and announce our presence by sending messages to some target stars.
Dr. Anders Sandberg, member of the STB UK from the Institute for the Future of Humanity at the University of Oxford, says that we must ensure that we transmit clean digital signals that will not be mistakenly interpreted as a hostile message. Sandberg said the words at the British Science Festival that took place this week at the University of Bradford. "It is better to send a simple message," he added. "A language that is too complex can contain a lot of strange things, and cause the receivers of the message to be at risk. Broadcasting a message that may contain malware may be something that aliens will not like."
The argument against proactive broadcasting to outsiders is that the message may attract to us those we do not want to come. Physicist Prof. Stephen Hawking is among those who call for caution when he said: "If aliens visit us, the result will be similar to the one that occurred following Columbus' journey to America, which did not end well for the native Americans."
Opinions also differ about the content that should be included in a radio broadcast to outsiders. "Images are iconic and easy to decipher," says Dr. Sandberg. "On the other hand, there are schools of thought that say - no, we don't know if aliens even have eyes. Pictures might be the wrong thing to send them. The adherents of this school of thought claim that a message must be transmitted in the universal language of mathematics."
Dr. Jill Stewart from the London School of Economics. According to her, an example of a "wrong" message is that of the humans on the board carried by the Pioneer 10 spacecraft that was launched in 1972 and is now moving outside the solar system. In the panel you see a man waving his hands while standing in front of a "passive" woman. "This may convey a narrative according to which there is a preference for a specific gender." Stewart said, she also spoke as part of the science festival. "One can say what will the aliens care about the gender? But he also asks us to observe. Part of the exercise is to look at the human collective and decide what is important to us."
In response to the opponents, Sandberg said that it is indeed a bet, but it is a worthwhile bet. "The most naive thing is to think that all the aliens want is to eat us or invade Earth. The chances of this are slim, but a more sophisticated version points us to cultures that fought against the Western culture that was technologically superior to them. On the other hand we may learn interesting things. It would be a good idea to gamble and hope that there is someone older and wiser out there to help us out of the troubles facing the human race. If the aliens instruct us on how to handle the climate or how artificial intelligence works, we might want to listen.”
Sandberg said he hoped a consensus would be reached. In the meantime, it was decided in St. Britannia to establish a working group of four people to formulate the message.
A news item on the subject on the BBC
To the "Breakthrough Initiative" website
More of the topic in Hayadan:
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Interesting news, is it a sign of intelligent life?
http://www.holesinthenet.co.il/holesinthenet-media-story-129304
Mrone
It is well known and clear that alien civilizations that have succeeded in developing interstellar travel are subject to the office bureaucracy and separation of powers of Earth's governments.
Also, it is known that the governments of the earth are the most efficient bureaucratic body created by mankind, therefore the secret will be kept by the rulers and their officials and no mistake, laziness, omission, petty revenge, budget cuts, dreams, boasting or desire for publicity will be able to break the veil of secrecy. this penetrating
"The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency."
Eugene McCarthy
MrOne
Enough with the nonsense 🙂
It's only nice that extraterrestrials have long since made contact with Earth, for obvious reasons the government never releases this information. See Zeitgeist to understand why.
If these scholars were truly admitted, they would soon have to find another subject to pursue. Mr. Sabat also had to look for another topic to trouble the Internet, such as multi-level marketing.
Hanan Sabat
It is very good that the subject of UFOs is being investigated. It's too bad that these researchers don't really admit it...
Hanan Sabat
Can I please also have a link to the website of an association for researching liars, charlatans, and cheaters and those who fall into their trap? That would be very helpful, thanks.
It always makes me laugh to read the stories of the practicalities of SETI and all kinds of religious sects - like the Russian billionaire who probably wants to launder money on Hawking's back (who has been spewing nonsense endlessly for many years)....
Presumably, if extraterrestrials pick up our transmissions or have picked up, they will not be initially interested in the content, but only in the fact that there is a transmission. If we ever receive an extraterrestrial transmission, the very existence of the transmission will probably interest us and not its content (which we may not be able to decipher or understand).
Investing millions of dollars in nonsense and assuming that extraterrestrials would be happy to hear perhaps Shakespeare's sonnets instead of a broadcast of "Big Brother", proves once again that this is not research, but a desire to support the SETI people, so that they may once again be able to contribute to us something similar to their tremendous contribution to humanity - screen saver!
Here I mention Hawking's "schizophrenia" - he claims that extraterrestrials can never get here because of the vast distances in space and if there are extraterrestrials, most of them are probably very primitive. In the same breath, he warns us not to broadcast and not properly, lest aggressive extraterrestrials come here and, in the European colonialist style, conquer us....
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It really depends on the aliens, and also their culture when receiving the message. If, for example, they wear fur hats and speak a Slavic language, they may also see silence as offensive, subversive and threatening. If, on the other hand, the aliens are Swedes, any information would be welcome. Even one that promises to take them over and cut their throats as soon as possible.
Simple account
There is no evidence that the US planned the attack on 11/9. There are a lot of crazy people trying to promote such an agenda, but all the evidence is false. Whole books have been written about it, full of twisting of facts, quotes out of context, and also outright lies.
Haim, it's a shame you don't want to get into an argument
Aliens that can get here will probably have space time warp technology or space time jump technology
Tell me, if they have such technology, what are they even looking for here?
And if this technology reaches the Russians, for example, or some country in Africa, or not, let's go to the leader of North Vietnam...
Technology and morality go hand in hand
Advanced technology is not possible without advanced morality
Unfortunately, technology is always one step ahead of morality
Then the traumas break out like World War II and the Holocaust and today you can see the use that dark countries and groups make of technology
After the trauma people learn and improve
I hope the next trauma will not be in the form of World War III because then there will probably be no one left to improve morals
I don't understand where this claim that a violent progressive culture will destroy itself comes from.
At least on Earth the violent cultures were also the most advanced, even today the USA which advocates world peace uses its military and economic power to subdue any country that does not act according to its policies or the values it believes in.
Even in nature, predators are much smarter than their hunters.
In any case, a meeting between an advanced culture and an inferior culture will lead to the destruction of the inferior. If not in war then in economic exploitation.
A visual message must be sent as a picture of a flower with the number 1 in it.
If we receive a message from a flower with the number 2, we will understand that they understood the message and we will know the location...
Emmanuel the first
Some of your words have a point, the rest is mixed Jerusalem. Since I do not intend to enter into an endless debate, nor do I have the strength and patience for it, I will leave it up to you to decide what are the points of interest and what is involved in Jerusalem.
Just keep in mind that there are many, many sources of outsiders
Which have no connection at all...
The Nazis were technologically advanced but morally backward.
There is strong evidence that the "enlightened" AHB initiated the 9/11 attack against its own citizens
As a kind of Pearl Harbor of the 21st century that would justify limiting the freedom of citizens (the "Patriot" law and NSA surveillance)
and the transfer of huge budgets to the military and security industry at the expense of the taxpayers.
Even if aliens can get here in principle
Maybe it is accompanied by risk and huge expenses that make them think twice/thrice and even three times will be dark
Sending "friendly" messages can make them visit us first
Which could lead to disaster for us.
What is??
Steve Hawking lately has been talking a lot of nonsense if there are aliens who are able to reach the earth they have known for a long time that we are here…… the technology to get here is much more advanced than discovering us and scanning all the stars in the entire universe……
Now if they come here they have very, very advanced technology and therefore their morals are probably much more advanced as well
There is a close connection between technology and the morality of a company
And there is a close connection between traumas that pass civilizations to advanced technologies when morality is not at a considered level
Look at what is happening in the countries that receive weapons and technology and the regimes in which are dictators and suppress individual freedom
The biggest mistake of the western world is to share these technologies with immoral countries
Do you think aliens with such advanced technology will come here and help us???
The only thing they will do if there are extraterrestrials is to prevent us from destroying ourselves….and that too with a limited warranty
Aliens whose genes have violence and hatred will never succeed in reaching a high technological level because they will destroy themselves
And who knows, maybe we too will fall into the category of self-destruction because we have no right to exist in the universe
Time will tell
As for the cyber attack ….. it's just funny
Aliens who can get here can control our thoughts, our desires and much more complex processes
Cyber attack is only in Hollywood with their dumb movies