The hoard, which contains about 120 coins, is the largest since the Bar Kochba revolt that has been discovered in archaeological activities in Israel
Researchers from the Hebrew University and Bar-Ilan University have discovered a large cache of rare coins, pottery and weapons that were buried in a deep cave during the Bar Kochba Revolt (135-132 AD), in one of the nature reserves in the Jerusalem Mountains. This is the first time such a large group of coins has been found in archaeological excavations. The coins were discovered during research conducted by Prof. Amos Fromkin and Boaz Langford from the Information and Cave Research Unit in the Department of Geography at the Hebrew University and by Dr. Boaz Zissou and Prof. Hanan Eshel from the Department of Land of Israel Studies and Archeology at Bar-Ilan University, with the assistance of the Nature and Parks Authority.
The cache contains approximately 120 coins and was discovered during a study to map caves throughout the country. The cave in which it was discovered includes a hidden wing, the access to which is possible through a narrow, slippery and dangerous crack that was first discovered decades ago by Dr. Gideon Man, one of the pioneers of cave exploration in Israel. The crack led the investigators to a hole that connected to a hall that was used to hide Jewish fighters during the Bar-Kochba rebellion. The treasure was hidden there nearly 1900 years ago.
Most of the coins are made of silver with the value of a sela and a dinar and they were minted by the rebels based on Roman coins that were used in the money circulation at that time. The symbols and inscriptions of the Roman coins were erased during the re-minting, and in their place were stamped Jewish symbols and national inscriptions along the lines of: "XNUMXnd year for the liberation of Israel", "for the liberation of Jerusalem". The rest of the coins are Roman made of gold, silver and bronze and they were minted throughout the empire and in Israel. The coins were kept in good condition despite the humidity prevailing in the cave. At the end of the Bar Kochba revolt, it was possible to buy a house with one rock coin worth four dinars.
This is the first time that such a large cache of coins from the Bar-Kochva period has been discovered by researchers and not by antiquities robbers. The rarity of the coins and the uniqueness of the Jewish symbols and inscriptions that appear on them make them highly sought after in the Israeli and international antiquities market. In the past decades, antiquities robbers have destroyed many sites, especially in the Judean region, with the aim of discovering coins from the period of the rebellion.
It seems that the cache of coins was hidden in this cave during the days of the rebellion, after the Jewish fugitives abandoned their settlements or at the end of a battle with the Romans. However, the treasure watchers did not return to take their belongings and their money. "The value of the treasure, the dimensions of the cave and its proximity to the center of the rebellion in the Beitar area show the importance of this cave to the escapees," says Prof. Fromkin. "The finding confirms the hypothesis that the refugees of the rebellion fled to caves in the center of their residential areas in addition to remote caves in the Judean Desert. This finding is a significant addition to the understanding of the Bar-Kochva rebellion, the historical information about which is limited," he added.
According to Dr. Zissou, one of the fascinating discoveries related to the Bar Kochba rebellion is the phenomenon of the intense use of Jewish fighters and refugees in underground spaces - natural or carved - for hiding, hiding, escape and refuge. "The Jews who fled to the caves from the Roman army took with them food, drink, weapons, money and various certificates and documents," he explains, "sometimes they locked their houses and took the house keys with them, hoping to return home after the fighting."
Dr. Yechiam Sorek, an expert on the periods of the rebellion in Judah: The discovery is quantitatively impressive, but it will not add information about the rebellion
We were informed a short time ago that a press conference is going to be held at the initiative of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem to reveal to it sensational discoveries regarding the Bar Kochba rebellion.
I took a bite of hornbills, even though I imagined that the mountain would give birth to a mouse, and indeed, fortunately, I didn't make a single millimeter mistake.
This is a hoard of coins from the days of the Ben Khosva rebellion, along with pottery and weapons that were discovered in a cave deep in the Jerusalem mountains. 120 silver coins with the values of Sela and Dinar, minted with a secondary minting, that is, as was customary in the condemned rebellion (132/1 – 135 CE) a secondary minting on common Roman coins. On the coins appear inscriptions of the XNUMXnd year for the liberation of Israel, for the liberation of Jerusalem and more.
It is true that this is the largest quantitative discovery found so far in relation to the rebellion, and for that we should thank and congratulate, but May? Beyond that, the treasure cannot contribute, even if it is, in favor of any sensational revelation regarding the rebellion. There is nothing in the cache to remove shadows in sharp problems regarding the rebellion such as: Did Ben Khosva take over Jerusalem? Did he try to renew the construction of the Temple? Has the radius of the rebellion gone beyond the circle of Jerusalem and the surrounding area? Were any other leadership figures known about Ben Kusva? Is it possible to learn something special about the character of Ben Khosva and more of this type, based on which we can indeed say that we have a special and innovative treasure in front of us.
Also, no coins with new inscriptions and/or new engravings were discovered as we did not know or did not know, as well as special coins of primary and not secondary minting.
The article on behalf of the university was signed on the assumption that the treasure was hidden by Jews who fled their homes during the uprising. So what? Where is the sensational revelation? And by the way, this situation may prove, as I claim on many occasions, that the somewhat terroristic character of Ben Khosva caused a feeling of catastrophe in the surrounding communities, since the Romans were after the rebels and not after innocent residents, villagers and farmers.
In this context, it is appropriate to recall the Sage's article that "a rebellious nature, such as Ben Khozabia, does not desecrate" (Jerusalem Talmud of Asher Shani, Chapter XNUMX, Nev. p. XNUMX), meaning that one should not redeem its fruits, considering another layer of the negative attitude that the Jewish leadership showed to the son Coriander
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This is a real bargain
I know places that have not yet been excavated, such as graves, houses, rooms, rooms, and I am very sure that there are Bar Kochba coins in the area. The robbers do not have such treasures, I know whole mountains of burials that have not been looted, hiding places, hidden caves, everything from everything, I really like archeology and I believe that if the Antiquities Authority works with me, it will be good for the country, and if not, then there are simply many antiquities robbers who are waiting for this kind of information
I have several such coins
What is the value of such a thing?
I'd like to receive an answer
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You didn't write an email.
Hello. I am studying the Torah and Halachot the issues of the four sexes in preparation for Sukkot. I am looking for as many pictures as possible of these coins because in the few that I saw I found pictures of the four types - Etrog Lulav etc. If any of my good brothers can help me I would be very grateful. Since my network is blocked by my choice, I would be happy if the reference to the photos would be to an email and the like, so that I don't get blocked.
God bless you.
Dr. Yachiam Sorek whistles
I will not comment on your assessments regarding the Bar Kochba uprising, because I understood that you intend to write later on the subject, so we can wait for that.
What bothers me is your treatment of the Israeli governments as "Holocaust deniers" of the Armenian people and the Holocaust of the Indian people. This is no slander in vain.
A. Israel does not deny the genocide committed by the Turks against the Armenians at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, but has decided not to formally participate in the ceremonies that are held for their Zionism. I hope you know that the governments of Israel do not interfere with what the historians write and have no intention of writing an alternative history against you. So you should be precise, even if I also have a degree of dissatisfaction with the governments' behavior and I hope that next time the government will mention the genocide formally.
B. Regarding the genocide carried out by the white man against the Indian tribes, as far as I know, there is no special day on which this historical memory is noted. If the white American learns false myths about the Indians, this is certainly a phenomenon that the Americans themselves have to deal with. As far as I know, it does not encompass all of American society, and there are elements in this society that are working to correct the situation.
third. It bothers me that a respected historian like you calls the genocide of the Armenians and the Indians a holocaust. Holocaust is a unique word in Hebrew that was dedicated to the Holocaust of the Jews of Europe and part of North Africa, to indicate the exceptional event in its nature and unique in its existence. The Holocaust is the destruction of the Jewish people as a racist ideology that does not allow for correction and amnesty. The Jews could do nothing to remove the decree. The implementation of the plans was done in an industrialized and mechanized system. Never in recorded history have we witnessed such an extreme and unusual phenomenon other than the Holocaust.
Regarding the Armenian Genocide, it should be noted that the Turks limited their activities to eastern Turkey only. It was a conflict between two peoples, ruler and ruled, each sitting on his own land. Armenians who lived in the center of Turkey or in Istanbul were not attacked and their lives were not threatened.
Therefore there is no point in using the term holocaust for these two cases and not for any other known and similar case.
Best regards
Lior Shalom
You certainly don't become an antiquities robber. According to the Antiquities Law in the State of Israel, and as it is in most reformed countries in the world, any ancient object/item (and the essence of its antiquity can be debated, and perhaps it is a fake item at all, and whether old means antique, and more like it is old-fashioned) must be reported to the authorized authority (Km) XNUMX Antiquities).Whether the item is small or "oversized" (and it is well known that this is how all those dealing with real estate in the field are guided). The probability that the coin, except in rare cases, will be taken from you is extremely low, not so for a large item, say a statue or parts of a building.
It is worth understanding and being informed that even a small coin may shed great light on various historical issues. In the antiquities wing, a variety of information is laid out regarding the various finds and even a certain coin may complete a research mosaic of one kind or another.
Imagine to yourself the archaeological-historical research as a court and where it disrupts, albeit unintentionally, the sequence of evidence.
Antiquities pirates..
Someone explain to me why if I walk around in nature and find an old coin I will become an antique robber?
Yael Shalom
First - don't die, even symbolically, although a load of cynicism is hidden behind your opening sentence. A not-so-friendly opening, no-showin, so be it.
Secondly - I repeat - I did not claim that the archeological researchers did not tell the truth, lied, faked or deceived. Absolutely not!
Third - I did not attack their assumption regarding the escape of residents. But May, if you are in any way digging and digging, I will point out that this can certainly be a logical assumption, although another assumption may/may be considered, which does not involve escape in general and a connection to the Ben Khosva rebellion in particular (although the escape actually confirms my claims regarding the attitude to the rebellion and the rebel, but This is another opera). There are, and not only in the geographical area in question, similar finds of coin hoards, which do not necessarily involve escapes.
Fourth - the location of the cache also strengthens my claims about the limited radius of the rebellion, and certainly not the one I came to attack.
Fifth - you are starting from a point of assumption, as said which is controversial, that this is precisely where we are talking about the escape of Jews (and by the way, if this were true, we would have found additional, personal findings in the same hiding place, which would testify to escape and hiding), and you turn the hypothesis into a thesis and ask me, even though the topic Controversial, regarding similar escape sites in the Jerusalem mountains. So it turns out that I am standing before my traditional rules. And again, only an accumulation of hoards could save anything about the escape theory. If you were to present your arguments before a historical court, the arguments would not meet the historiosophical "laws of evidence". And sorry for the condescension.
Sixth - Naa Drasht - indeed the many coins of Ben Kusava outside Jerusalem do not at all indicate the takeover of the city. On the contrary. We actually found quite a few coins of Ilia Capitolina inside Jerusalem, but not so for false coins (as the Sages say). The mint of Ben Khoseva was found in Harvat Akad, 22 km west-northwest of Jerusalem (Latron area - Canada Park).
Regarding the hypothesis of the robbers and the sipa, I will try to address it later.
Bye for now
Strictly hello
What does it matter? You should reflect on the well-known sentence - patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel - in connection, of course, with politicians and the issue of denial
Blessings
1. The problem with nonconformists - according to your definition - fakers and rewrites of history according to my definition - is that many, many, quite ignorant in most cases, read their words, and not only read, but also act accordingly. See "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", "Mein Kampf" and more
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2. The Israeli governments do not deny the two exterminations of the peoples you mentioned, they simply ignore the reasons
political and economic. As Danny Sanderson wrote: A small country avoids trouble.
As an archaeologist I agree with quite a few things
- The coins alone will not be able to tell us about the identity of the depositors
- This is not a discovery that will change our perception and understanding of the Bar-Kosva Rebellion and will not rewrite the pages of history
- From a museological point of view, these are first-class findings, as mentioned, coins from the days of the rebellion are limited in number and the more there are, the better, and who knows, maybe one day we will be able to sell a few of them to collectors or museums in order to be able to finance research archaeological excavations
- Every active archaeologist is allowed and even desirable to praise and praise his research and findings even if they pass the good taste and their true scientific value if it will help to add funding and advertising money to the excavator and to archeology in general....
Dear Dr. Sorek, I really like experts and your answers, but they don't really relate to my questions.
In light of your expertise in the field, perhaps you will still answer my questions? I will remind you of some of them that did not get your attention:
Do the researchers who discovered the cache claim something that is not true in your opinion? The researchers claim, for example, that "the finding confirms the hypothesis that the rebels fled to caves in the center of their residential areas in addition to remote caves in the Judean desert." Isn't that right in your opinion? Isn't this really the first cave with this kind of discovery in the Jerusalem mountains? Do you know of other caves in the Jerusalem mountains (as opposed to the Judean desert) to which Jews fled at the end of the rebellion? Doesn't the new discovery contain two orders of magnitude more Bar Kochba coins than were discovered in all the long-running giant excavations conducted in ancient Jerusalem? Doesn't the relative amount of coins outside and inside Jerusalem imply that Kochba did not take over Jerusalem? Can these kinds of hypotheses be based on coins found by antiquities robbers in an unknown place? Can similar hoards found by robbers remove shadows in sharp problems regarding the rebellion, when we do not know the source of the find?
Strictly hello
Please try not to hurt me personally, maybe you are also expecting some kind of response.
Thanks
And to the substance of the matter:
First of all - there is no problem and no inhibition in raising hypotheses regarding the factors that hid the cache. Rather and rather.
Secondly - I have never claimed that I hold the keys to the initials regarding the character of Ben Kusva. I developed different and varied theories from those of my composition.
Third - in my humble opinion, it is appropriate to give Holocaust deniers every possible platform in order to deal with their claims rationally and empirically. The denial of the deniers only harms the historiosophical discipline and presents the deniers of the deniers as thugs of knowledge and opinion from cowards on the other hand.
By the way, Israeli governments for generations are considered Holocaust deniers, referring to the Holocaust of the Armenian people and the Holocaust of the Native American people, millions of whose children were brutally exterminated by the white settlers from Europe. To this day, the American population is hung up on horrible myths about the Indians who were greedy Kirkoff and the white women's incest.
Fourth - in Lagina and not in Lagina which is plural. And as for me, I would also like to be the only coin in Lagin that rattles, and hence its voice is heard
Yael Shalom
Thank you for your response and now to the point:
Prof. Finkelstein is indeed a non-conformist, as are Prof. Shlomo Zand, Prof. Zertal, Dr. Sarah Bender, and more, but this is all about a minority within a minority, and this phenomenon is widespread in many universities in the world. The majority of the public lecturers and researchers are interested in maintaining their throne and status and because of this the degree of their academic prowess is quite shallow.
I didn't disagree about finding the treasure. I even blessed him and praised him both on the archaeological and the historical level. But May. I was expecting (and I knew that I would be disappointed) in light of the hoo-ha and the storm caused by the spokeswoman of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem before the display of the things, and what's more - a press conference on the matter. A university media promo including a press conference develops certain expectations, doesn't it? There was talk of sensational discoveries in the area of the Ben Khosva rebellion. Exciting discoveries? Sorry! The quantity does not indicate the quality, and only because of this I raised the classic questions and doubts about the find.
And this is to know - many finds, relatively speaking of course, are revealed in Israel, and they are much more important and sensational, but before they are revealed no press conference is held. After all, the burned in Ruthin was careful in Tsonnin - at the time a press conference was held following the discovery of the skeletons in one of the evenings in Masada. Everyone thought that these were the warriors of Elazar ben Yair, but it turned out that they were Byzantine monks who settled there about five hundred years after the rebellion.
No, I'm not an archaeologist, and therefore I don't have the findings that I uncovered, and by the way, most of the researchers of the rebellions are historians and not archaeologists. Will you ban them for that?
One of my modernist assumptions, and I have published about it in several places, is the fact that the traditional, legitimate, captive presidency house was at Ben Kusva's in Beit Ter. One more thing and this is how I will finish - in all the dozens of letters that have been revealed in relation to the rebellion and they are signed, "al-amat", in the seal of Ben Khosva there is not even a hint that it is about a rebellion. Well, how about that? By the way, I will refer to this matter in one of the upcoming articles.
Blessings
Response to Menachem Ben, sorry to Yahyam Sarak, sorry, Shork
1. What's wrong with raising the assumption who were the concealers? Further to the studies, it is common to make assumptions and even specify indices
more worthy of examination.
2. It seems to me that Harkabi was the first to publish that Shev Kochba was a man of violent muscles, not you
3. Since you were hanged on the tree of the Inquisition, excuse me, on the high tree Galileo, allow me to place you next to
Nonconformists such as you: famous holocaust deniers, that the fact that they are given a stage does not qualify
According to them, a Swedish writer accusing IDF soldiers of stealing organs and more
4. Istra Belginia Kish Kish is readable, but what kind of association is this?
Thank you Dr. Sorek for your comment.
Regarding the non-conformism that, in your opinion, characterizes college people, well, really, a bit childish. Israel Finkelstein and his method sound conformist to you? If I'm not mistaken, he is a member of Tel Aviv University.
Let's check the details that I read in the body of the article and in your response, and since you testify yourself that you are "considered an expert in the field of Jewish rebellions in the Roman period". I would be happy to learn more from you about the substance of the matter, and what you disagree about the discovery of the treasure.
Do the researchers who discovered the cache claim something that is not true in your opinion? The researchers claim, for example, that "the finding confirms the hypothesis that the rebels fled to caves in the center of their residential areas in addition to remote caves in the Judean desert." Isn't that right in your opinion? Isn't this really the first cave with this kind of discovery in the Jerusalem mountains? Do you know of other caves in the Jerusalem mountains (as opposed to the Judean desert) to which Jews fled at the end of the rebellion? Doesn't the new discovery contain two orders of magnitude more Bar Kochba coins than were discovered in all the long-running giant excavations conducted in ancient Jerusalem? Doesn't the relative amount of coins outside and inside Jerusalem imply that Kochba did not take over Jerusalem? Can these kinds of hypotheses be based on coins found by antiquities robbers in an unknown place? Can similar hoards found by robbers remove shadows in sharp problems regarding the rebellion, when we do not know the source of the find?
Maybe your opinion is really a minority opinion, completely wrong, as you suggest?
By the way, regarding expertise and innovation, what remains of the Bar Kochba rebellion did you discover, and do you know what other such remains were uncovered by the researchers who discovered the treasure?
Yael
And one more thing - I'm ready to argue on this stage and on any stage, as I do from time to time, with any researcher and expert on the matter in question.
Bye
Yael Shalom
I considered and considered whether to respond and finally decided to act like this:
Well - first of all - the mentioned and mentioned colleges are staffed by professionals, some of whom are world-renowned experts in their field of research.
Second - your faithful servant, and in all modesty is considered an expert, one of..., in the field of Jewish rebellions in the Roman period.
Thirdly - university employees are limited in the field of non-conformist innovation, as I have witnessed in various scientific conferences and certainly in official publications.
Fourth - to bring the reference of Ben Dror Yamini regarding? Oh really Yael?! You attack me due to my lack of university and use the above-mentioned journalist to tattoo my assumptions and more in a sweeping way? Where is the rationale, not to mention the contradiction in the above-mentioned use. And by the way, in the same article, I attacked the conformists who blindly follow accepted and common opinions without bothering to examine the roots of things, because at the base of every scientific approach is skepticism and criticism.
Remember the position of the Inquisition that sent to the Mokad scientists of that time, who dared to assert heretical claims such as that the globe is spherical-elliptical and that it rotates around its axis and around the sun.
Remember the monkey trial in the conservative USA, and more of that kind.
Go to Pete Seeger's lovely song - little boxes
Fifth - and perhaps this is the most important of all - please look at my response embedded in the article and understand that everything I said is true and the cache does not deny it at all. I raised, as I usually do, questions and difficulties for thought. It is true that they hurt the well-known conformism, and I am ready to blame myself because my opinion, a minority opinion, is completely wrong, but Dahil Rabak, proved it otherwise!
Anyway, thanks for your response
Why does a respected website like "Hidan" not apply to receive a response from academics from slightly more serious institutions. With all due respect to Beit Berel and the Kibbutzim Seminary, they are not exactly universities.
Your commenter, Dr. Yechiam Sorek (an expert?), has already been defined on another website (Ben Dror Yamini) as someone who introduces antisemitism into the academy. So why spoil it?
Maybe it's just a secret stash of a rich man from that time
who had trouble getting to the deposit in Switzerland...and took his secret to the grave.
They must have kept their coins according to the tips in "Don't Steal"….
http://www.lotignov.com
There is also an option on the website to register the serial numbers of bicycles in case they are stolen.
Totally cool