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The universe does not expand uniformly

Researchers from Canada have discovered that our particular part of the universe, up to a radius of 400 million light years in each direction, does not spread as uniformly as expected. The expansion is faster in one half of the sky compared to the other half. If this is confirmed, it will be necessary to correct hypotheses regarding the way the universe was formed in the big bang

Galaxies at the edge of the universe whose speed does not match the Hubble flow
Galaxies at the edge of the universe whose speed does not match the Hubble flow

A few weeks ago, researchers reported that they had discovered a dark flow of invisible matter in a star cluster located at the edge of the visible universe. Now comes more evidence of unseen and unknown forces in the universe, but this time closer to home.

A group of researchers discovered that our specific part of the universe - up to a radius of 400 million light years in each direction does not spread uniformly in all directions as was expected. More precisely, the expansion is faster in one half of the sky than in the other half.

"It looks like, in addition to the expansion, our neighborhood of the universe got another push in a certain direction," says Mike Hudson of the University of Waterloo in Toronto, Canada. "We would expect the universe to become uniform as we progress to larger scales, but this is not the case." If the discovery is confirmed, the results of their findings could be expressed in a new understanding of the origin of structures in the universe and possibly a re-examination of the standard cosmological model.

Hudson and two of his colleagues carried out research on the large-scale cosmic flow and the general expansion of the universe. This expansion increases the distances between galaxies steadily over time, and is known as the Hubble Stream. Deviations in the velocity of galaxies from the overall Hubble flow is known as the "peculiar velocity". By examining the peculiar velocities of galaxy clusters and superclusters, scientists can formulate estimates of the local mass concentrations responsible for causing the variation in the Hubble flow.

The map of the cosmic neighborhood of galaxies that includes the Milky Way
The map of the cosmic neighborhood of galaxies that includes the Milky Way

In particular, these researchers attempted to answer the long-standing puzzle of the origin of the strange 600 kilometers per second velocity of our Milky Way galaxy relative to the cosmic background radiation.

They analyzed the results of several separate surveys and found that about 50% of the local group's traffic is faster than expected. To produce such speed, they believe there must be a large invisible and unknown structure in the universe. they write "The great value of the residual motion requires the existence of significant velocities created by structures on a very large scale" and these structures are beyond the local group. They determine.

Brian McNamara, chair of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Waterloo, said that Hudson discovered that a large amount of matter in the near universe is moving together at surprisingly high speeds. "If the work is approved, it will require a major change in the way we believe the universe was created and evolved."

Hudson and his colleagues submitted the paper to the British Royal Astronomical Society And it is available at this link.

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  1. This force is called dark flow and it has been tested by NASA, and apparently the explanation for this is that there is a mass that is outside our universe at a distance of 45 billion light years, which basically means a kind of parallel universe whose mass creates this gravitational force and the force is so strong that it reaches Up to 2.5 billion light-years from Earth alone. Which means that maybe we need to think about everything we know about the universe until now. They made a BBC series about this dark flow.

  2. It seems to me that after our universe there is another universe with a much greater mass than the mass of our universe and it attracts our universe and contributes to its expansion.
    What do you think, does it make sense???
    Great Day.

  3. Since everyone thinks that complication is a crucial step in neglecting scientific explanation A and moving on to scientific explanation B, the question arises as to whether it is possible to quantify the complication? That is, is it possible to find a formula into which relevant data will be entered and the result will be an agreed decision on everything for the need to go beyond explanation B. That is, if the complication reaches such and such a degree, then we move to explanation B.
    It can be a nice article and an interesting formula even if we set it a broad framework of possible error.
    What do you think commenters, is it worth thinking about?
    Good Day
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  4. Yehuda:
    I have no limits in relation to the quantity.
    This reminds me of the story about Bernard Shaw who approached a woman and had the following conversation:
    Bernard: Ready to sleep with me?
    Woman: Why?
    Bernard: But I'll give you a million dollars!
    Woman: Well, in that case, fine.
    Bernard: Actually only $10.
    Woman: What - do you think I'm a whore?
    Bernard: Which we already know and now we're just bargaining.

    so that's it. As soon as I agreed that there would be a dark mass - the amount no longer matters. What does change is the complication of the model and every new concept complicates it.

  5. I mean, even tomorrow, a star group will be discovered that has a million times the dark mass, it won't bother you, but, if it requires a negative dark mass, will it already seem excessive to you?
    Michael, understand, I respect your choice, but it is not clear to me how far this kind of belief can go. For me, for example, the need for a hundredfold exaggerated dark mass was already enough to get away from the idea of ​​the dark mass, even if it matters whether or not I have an alternative idea for a solution.
    What about you, what are your limits, can you give me numbers?
    I'm not trying to tease, I really want to understand the difference between us.
    This is an assessment question.
    Good Day
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  6. Yehuda:
    Most of the proposals you put forward for transformation in the existing explanation are not transformations because they introduce new terms (negative mass, God, etc.) and therefore they will be disqualified, as I have already mentioned, because they are not simpler but on the contrary - they are more complicated.
    I find no reason to change anything in the statement I gave earlier.
    There is an explanation here that explains all the phenomena and does not contradict any of them. What reason do I have to abandon him in the absence of a simpler explanation? To which operative consequences will there be for such "neglect"?
    Will I stop being a vegetarian?
    Will I stop doing experiments aimed at confirming or disproving this assumption?
    what?
    As mentioned - beyond the fact that I have no reason to abandon the dark mass theory - I have many reasons to abandon the alternative proposals you put forward.

  7. To Michael
    You explained that you will neglect the existing explanation (of the dark mass) when:-
    "When an explanation is offered that works in the sense that it is not in conflict with reality, which is also simpler than the existing explanation." End quote.
    I asked - meaning you would be willing to accept any transformation in the existing explanation: - dark mass times a million (we have already received ten thousand times), negative dark mass, even negative energies, and maybe even divine powers, and as long as you don't have a better explanation it will seem fine to you ??,
    Do you see a negative attitude in those who think that as soon as each number gains the amount of dark mass, then this theory is cut off? Do you not see here a "replay" of the phlogiston theory, in the same way they added it to matter for the purpose of explaining hot bodies?, continue there as well Add as many as they wanted and even came to me so that in the end phlogiston was defined as having a negative mass?
    I'm trying to find the difference between the two of us, after all we both don't "like" the dark mass explanation.
    In short, since finding a new explanation is not necessarily related to eliminating the old explanation,
    The key question is:- Do you see a possibility that you will neglect the dark mass explanation even before you find a better explanation?
    Good Day
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  8. Yehuda:
    The answer to your question is very simple:
    When an explanation is offered that works in the sense that it is not in conflict with reality, which is also simpler than the existing explanation.
    The existing explanation is the only one I know that does not contradict reality.
    The explanations you offer contradict both reality and themselves.

  9. Yehuda Shalom.
    After a 3.5 month stay in science, did Hogin, etc., come to a decision that she should stop blowing like a fuse that pops into you, like other characters in her own pantheon? And like Hugin blowing strongly. And go to sleep as one living and sleeping person and accustomed to his completely trivial habits in his life.
    Hogin's original honoree decided that she would pass it on through her book of reflections, through the things she wrote and documented
    And knowing, and through correspondence with you at this time, the messages that were important in order to inform the general. This is in order to leave a hint of an inheritance, a heritage, a treasured and besieged secret in the motherland that is under special guard in order to ensure other security funds for its safety... and the related general safety.
    After all, no one is ever resilient and a person is needed, no matter what happens not to rely only on his relative personal "luck" and to know that there are many in the chariots of "turning and turning destiny" who are embraced and coordinated, even if they are against the whole big scenario itself - the human heart of the universe/world/code Israel/Jew/Ger/Gentile/Netzach./Nili
    The revelations that are widely known to some and "only to some", which I am passing on, are not simple for an ordinary person, who does not see himself as responsible for many things that happen, whether directly or indirectly, from his inner center to hidden and visible circles, which take place in spreading circular ripples, in direct strings, and in many other ways for effects known to all A wise man with thinking and a broad, high and basic education. All paths lead to conclusions whatever they may be and insights whatever they may be.
    Despite the special strangeness that I display on the site, and maybe also in my special way, the way every person, every
    His moves, even if they are evident in their spontaneity, break through any barrier and opinion, are bold by nature and unconventional
    As a characteristic, there is still and always in them the very calculated judgment and the highly conscious and clear recognition.
    Even if it often seemed to Higgs that I was quoting others, he should also know that there is no local copyist
    Of the others, my place is the originality for its name, and acquired knowledge helps me use and help with terminology
    The common people know about mankind. Language is a necessary means of communication for everything and for me, as a normal and good living and breathing creature (and even the pipe smoker.. a rare cigarette hahaha "selfish people please don't listen.")
    present and present and as one human being, as independent in spirit and existence, as a man's wife in a covenant obligated to survival and justifying my existence (for a riddle in the days)
    I am a mother (from the age of 40) nice and loving to my children in everything - although, very not banal and normal and all this exists like any person who deserves his respect, his home and his family.
    The "secret" burden that was on me throughout my years, especially at the time of my adulthood and when I became aware of my burning inner duty was unbearably difficult and especially at very special times that constitute significant milestones
    For everything that happens, happens, happens and emerges at all levels that are generally known and hidden from the eyes of many people.
    Man is not alone. And every man exists and knows in his own way his inner goods-his thoughts-his musings-his impulses-his actions, and we all hope that he also knows all his visible and hidden motives from himself. which he hasn't read yet..and more and more).
    I'm a true freedom seeker!!! And therefore, I must not make myself stand out too much, and I must get off the general and narrative and virtual pynatheon... and surely no one will see me occupying a titular role
    any... except that I am living, breathing, present and living and the "true-original treasurer"/perhaps this is indeed the birth titles and there is no
    It is necessary to "choose" me for this purpose. I am what I am. And let everyone else be what they are. With a degree without a degree, it is not important to me at all. Purity of heart - and a clean and correct resonance, a clean heart, a clear mind, a healthy and intelligent mind. Healthy curiosity learns lessons and proportionality. Good and honest reasoning, straightforwardness builds. And faith in the supreme goodness and right that serves life and does not destroy others for its own sake. This is what is important in my values ​​and my ways throughout my life. yourself. understand.
    And to live also means to be your own mischievous child and despite the maturation required of every person, as the way of time to mature... nevertheless and despite everything and all the pitfalls and bumps that come up, don't stop dreaming yourself, form your vision. In short, don't put out the inner fire - light of spirit - The internal-external supreme soul that ignites, burns, ignites, fertilizes and also not in conscious awareness.
    And your vision every day.
    Competition from me onwards, although I often discover that I am super competitive when it comes to matters of life and death of my being and my inner dignity. in his body
    What the hell is going on with you and me? What is going to happen to you and me, I will go to Kivinimat!! This is a big and besieged question. A question of a huge and northern destiny.
    So Yehuda (and all the others intertwined in your code) to the simple universe - for which you are theoretically ready!!! And maybe also in an inner dream - under the skin of an elephant... the "giant killer" in Hugin's pantheon "the monster of the old age seemingly new" the dreamer, her dreams, her madness, her vision , her mistakes to a beautiful, natural world, and even the generation and very humane.
    Your stage, in the meantime.. and I'm Hugin of.. I want very much to rest.. to continue to be a poet, to transfer the performance to composition to my loved ones. To hear music as I like in the Holy (and how could I not?).. and to be with myself in the wonderful simplicity of my life. And also to treat my husband a little. Because he is the happiest "poor man" in a person who does not know who he is
    We will not marry at all.. as strange and bizarre as things sound.. (it's a good thing my children understand interest in adoration).

    And in the meantime, good luck in a big way!!

    Hogin. (in her name.. the famous book of the debut which is intended for guidance and giving tools in "sayings" for the sake of the many).
    I'm tired, sorry for the errors.. Higgs.

  10. To Michael
    There is no reasoning in the world that will convince you that you are stuck to the established paradigm. When I see that they add as much dark mass as they want, then I don't like it and in your eyes it is still the best solution. When will you be convinced, is there a possibility? Give me the scenario that if so and so happens you will neglect the story of the dark mass, such a Kim, will you neglect the dark mass when they decide that there is also an anti-dark mass? I have a chance that you will be convinced that Massa Apila Yok!.
    Dear Hugin
    Many things have been said about the simple universe, but the fact that it melts the hearts of the fair sex has not been said yet. Tonight I will probably have different dreams than usual.
    Laighs
    Thanks for explaining things. It is interesting how the theory of relativity will behave in a world with 3.5 dimensions, and it is interesting if there are fractal strings in string theory.
    Good night
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  11. Sabdarmish Yehuda
    The chaos in question is not mythological. It describes non-linear systems, indeed, but calculable and predictable in the probabilistic range. The complexity of the interrelationships between the various parameters creates a space with incomplete dimensions (practical) in that the trend of change is not finite, strange attractors are created, that is, from trajectories within a certain range that describe the trend within the space of situations. The dimensions actually depend on the state of the system at any given moment. Mandelbrot developed for the first time the fractal sweetening There are such functions with which the well-known fractal paintings are drawn.

  12. When Yehuda writes in his handwriting..
    Sabbadramish Yehuda
    The simple universe.
    Something in me is melting.
    "But this does not mean that the string is not valid."

    Hugin: And the clock is ticking.. tick, tick, tick, tick.

  13. Yehuda:
    There is confusion here.
    I accept all the mathematical developments that belong to the topic of chaos and the description of certain systems as chaotic.
    What I do not accept is that there is justification for the name "chaos theory" because the use of the word chaos adds nothing to the mathematical understanding of the phenomena.
    Read what I wrote in the link.
    When I kill someone, I do so with weighty reasons, and although this time it is not about the killing of a theory, but only the killing of a name - I have already expressed opinions here many times that contradict theories that have been presented - some of them are more famous and accepted - such as the "principle of respect" and some are less known (and therefore not yet It is known if it will be accepted) - like the article presented here on the subject of the sense of smell.
    In my opinion, Yehuda, you are not a giant slayer at all. You express an opinion that denies their discoveries but you don't reason it convincingly and what gets killed is your opinion.

  14. Michael????
    Do you claim that chaos theory does not exist? Do you not accept a theory that is accepted by the majority of academia?
    This is where you surprised me!, I thought I was the only giant slayer.
    In appreciation
    Sabdarmish Yehuda
    The simple universe

  15. Yehuda../also Michael.
    By the way, the book "Messages from the Water" is based on a study conducted according to all the standards required for scientific proof and is accompanied by amazing and educated demonstrations.
    In fact, the book proves the cognitive intelligence of water and not just the emotion as written (which is of course a superior value and fundamental intelligence in itself) the review you read, despite its desire for praise, turns out to be underestimating its value. Therefore, it is emphasized that it is advisable to read, actually buy the book. (God forbid Don't think that I have a vested interest in the matter except for the value of the insight itself in full, for the sake of pure honesty).
    Apart from that, may there be "universal ..world" success, and God bless you from the hurricane of the "bewitched" by the coder/the supreme will / this says YHWH the "legendary Satan" yes yes (the XNUMXrd - the Capricorn - the Sirius dance - the dog group - and of course, also according to the teachings of the "natives, in the West/see books from the map - World Cultures and more) and more, when a hurricane blows... what happens?? What does it collect in its path?? Isn't it alluvial land and sand Black??Red??Jeep of junks and more and more..Isn't it similar to opal??Isn't it a dark mass??Apello??Nebula??A dark dragon with an eye and axis???The mythical oval snake?
    The power of the legendary twisting serpent??The cosmic dragon???Well...isn't that true for Michael??.and more....for the formation of the theory?.?
    Michael once pointed out that he is a master of chaos theory!! And he is right!! He is great, a genius!! Born in the year of the dragon, the structure of the embedded cipher - to which he ascended to life is interesting in its square and in other interesting bins and openings. Even the levels of metaphysical intelligence are manifested in the light/cosmic aspect of thinking .and more...the innate-potential-embedded pattern for that opening..(day ..time..movement in embedded encryption) is the impulse

    To download to the world of reality (material, material, material).
    Indeed, it would not be surprising that the same magnetic-natural and interwoven attraction..also locally (surprisingly and consciously and by chance dangling) is drawn..in..like a fuse pops, you are Yehuda, synchronizing with Michael..and more and more data that is unknown at this moment to those who do the work -attracting-attracting..but not exactly familiar with the interesting subtleties (how and how everything works in everything.. for a data that rotates and rotates -applies-and generates) to logic
    Goldsmith, pure, surprising and amazing. And imbued with spontaneity.
    Luckily for us, the code is in our hearts-in our senses-in our minds..and in every breath and thing..and blessed is the one who understands matter and thing and life and the present everything. in his own way. .

    Good, God forbid you drown from overflooding.. wait a minute.. why not!!! Now it's your turn!! the opportunity
    Yours!! And maybe Pelkor will save!! And if not, then the blue whale!! And if not him.. our Judah!!!
    Wait..Wait..Maybe..Michael??And maybe??.?The cheeky 17-year-old??Who doesn't notice that he and I are like: "Harold and Maud" walking on the dead - legendary lives... and in the style of the scientist: "Hugin and Nod" ..uh..how is it
    Sound?? Who knows who knows??
    Well, I got carried away...as usual.
    Bye "Yehuda Sabdarmish". Hogin's expert palecorologist..and Hogin's dreams are matter-of-fact!
    Hugin: In appreciation of Bari Lev Hari!!!

  16. L. XNUMX/ according to the Hebrew calendar = the time of the minority of Levana.
    The moon=the soul=the "shadow" effect=covering direct light=hahaha/ the "deserted" effect=mythological "Satan".
    But what is happening to us at this moment?
    Let me clarify:
    During a white minority, i.e. when the soul is in minority and the covering effect or the "onion" recedes..in cycles
    The cosmic-cosmologists-astral, it is possible for direct visible "light" to enter inside for understanding and clarity
    Clear (without the screen of the fat or satiated/clouded/dark "soul")
    In ancient Judaism: and the wisdom of knowledge from around the world there is a reference to the "minority" effect and it is said
    He will be smart, rich, and influential..
    Admittedly, in this effect the relative "defect" is also present, because the affected - the influencing - the inclined by direct light is not accustomed in its ways
    And in his actions - that is, he is not like the way with = (collective soul). And therefore he is not "capable" of being easy to understand.
    A creature or a state of consciousness like this is sometimes asked to put on or wear different "masks" (depending on the situation in question) in order to enter the path of the earth-as a person and transfer or enrich
    to the way of light (high insight).
    recognition.
    self-recognition
    Full recognition.
    Now our Yehuda will decide, and everyone else who reads and is on the site of knowledge, if the things are just the caller
    Or the accumulated knowledge acquired and increasing from many poles - if the astro-logical knowledge is so despised..or
    "Cosmo-logy" and "astro-logy" are complementary "overlapping" insights into the universe-nature-life/world in its entirety.
    When a person does not recognize all his virtues (his total ability-his adaptability-his adaptability) and everything associated with that virtue value..(red+blue/round and more) he may more than once go against himself-his essence, his spirit and his flesh, and even his language-his Hebrew word-linguistic, Mom./ And the essence of his "name", of course, which carries a cipher-code as the "name" of the bearer - the names that carry and are carried in the whole of life.

    And in principle oppose!! A person must oppose in principle and pull with all his rational-intelligent powers as long as
    He is not complete with himself and with those around him and act according to his inner form - his heart with his honest instinct. And learn himself!!!..learn..truly learn!!!
    And more and more.
    Meanwhile.
    Hugin

  17. And in addition, I decided that I am starting to collect material to write a book about the simple universe and my other cosmological thoughts. If someone writes a bestseller about the musings of musical waters then there is no doubt that there is also a place for the simple universe.
    So Mrs. Hugin, thanks for the nudge, and regards to Falkor.
    Good Day
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  18. to hug

    I would like to tell you that the cool commenter would have deserved to devour him in your response. No reason in the world for him to curse you. But notice that many times he reacts with good taste so that there are circumstances that make it easier not to devour him completely so that he can complete himself in a simple regeneration.

    and for our purposes.
    Indeed, the whole world rotates, and not only that, but the golden ratio is also known, which is a ratio of 1:1.618 that appears in many rotating bodies and snail shapes in nature. So it is certain that there is some other thread that runs between them all (now I must be very careful in my response not to contradict my words in my response to the Weizmann Institute article) but... one must be careful not to conclude that the devil and astrology exist.
    My attempts to cast from the shape of a common hurricane to the shape of a galaxy alone, have already been met with a tremendous outcry in the style:- "How dare you do that and what's the connection?", so you have to be brave and have a thick skin!.
    But here, our Hugin, without any awe unites not only hurricanes and galaxies but adds to this Dan's universe in the macro and the small creatures in the micro. It's being brave. Wait for Michael to read it!
    But... leaving with nothing is not possible, I believe in the simple universe. And I believe that the pressure difference principle is the one that rotates the galaxies or at least helps to rotate them and not just gravity. As you know, I sent my last article, which deals with this topic, to my father, and I am patiently waiting for his decision whether to publish it or not. He asked me to wait and not to distribute in other ways. I respect his wish. The only one who became aware of my article was commenter A. Ben-Ner, and we already had some disagreements on the subject, although at least some of them have been resolved.
    And let's go back to our Hugin, and I agree with the conclusion of her words "In the end the universe is simple!!! and wonderful!!!!", it must be so, God would not get involved, unless he is a type like Michael who claims he created the world and is proud of the soup he concocted.
    It remains to look for the book recommended by you - "Messages from the water" by Dr. Masaru Amoto (with an ND degree in alternative medicine) dedicates his life to the study of water and within the framework of its behavior to the sound of various music such as Bach.
    http://www.altlife.co.il/homepage_rimon.php – 41k – Cached – Similar pages
    And since Falkor's Hogin was careful not to laugh at the idea in advance because "before you laugh at someone's opinion, it is recommended to check the depth" so I will check the depth (of the water) and hope I don't drown!
    It's already after midnight, they haven't turned off the moon yet, so we'll go in and see the new articles in science.
    Good night Hugin the spinner - (the whole universe of course)
    In appreciation
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  19. Dan's response #12: "Could it be that the entire universe rotates through a certain axis"?
    It seems to me that (Dr.) Yehuda Sabdarmish, Hogin's "palekrologist", ignited a brilliant idea in her.
    Arya Seter is also for you.
    Is it true that Falkor's form actually looks like a giant white swirling hurricane?
    Is it true that a white and legendary passport in mythologies also looks like this?
    Yehuda?
    When you see a huge hurricane right there is an eye and an axis?
    When you look at all the movements in nature (including fossils) is it true that you mostly see spirals?
    When a quiet wind enters the Kantian state, does it swirl and increase its speed, thus it spreads in increasing circles that intensify and spin more and more and this is also its intensification and expansion until a state of calm..slowly comes the stillness, cooling, formation, and behold, a universe..and behold, a star in strong (northern) wind cycles To all the directions of the winds that create time and hour...and so on and so on.
    Personally, I am not interested in the calculations.
    But this is how my individual spirit looks like unfolding and forming - the existential-experiential-conscious- and real. In a huge, huge, huge way that is really hard to describe.
    If there is something in my stories that will shed light on your theory as well...go with it.
    By the way, I can send you a check for the amount of NIS 1001 that I registered for you - for what will we call it?? Decoding? Code analysis? Research rewards?
    But first you must learn something else! A book called: "Messages from the Water" was published, a very interesting study conducted by a Japanese researcher (I gave the book... so I don't remember the researcher's name). And to the foundation of the infrastructure of the thing. As "the one who laughs last laughs" and did not despise others, he learned.
    In any case: in the end the universe is simple!!! and wonderful!!!!
    Thanks Yehuda.
    **************
    and what else?

    Yes. For comment number 9, the cool commenter! You are the furthest Kibinimet that the wind of Dan and Flakor flies.
    If you come back (and you all "go dark" for me) you can tell the company what you experienced and maybe analyze the situation.
    So get the hell away and go to Kivinimat!!!!
    Greetings from Austrian Vienna - it was terrible there!!! And here I am back with a new and fresh fighting spirit.
    And so Hugin also returned to her.
    And the wind blows and blows and blows.
    For a new historical-placorian existence...

  20. What's new:
    You probably don't understand what a conversation between humans is.
    In a conversation between people - person A says something, B reacts to it, and if A sees that he did not understand what he meant, then he clarifies things.
    Therefore, when A says atheism, it is atheism that A meant, and it is not B's job to explain to him what he meant.
    so yes.
    You are talking to me and not to the dictionary you happened to find.
    Obviously?
    Therefore, the definitions you quoted from the dictionary are not relevant and I am really surprised that you did not understand it yourself.
    The sentence you described as meaningless and strange is not strange at all and has a lot of meaning.
    If you take a mixture with similar doses of milk and poison and drink it - what will happen?
    did you guess
    If not - then I will tell you: you will be poisoned.
    A mixture of milk and poison in similar doses is poison. Obviously?
    Equally, an indistinguishable mixture of history and mythology is mythology.
    And don't tell me that you can distinguish between the historical part and the mythological part using archeology because it is not based on mythology. It is just like saying that it is possible, by chemical means, to separate the milk from the poison.
    Views?
    Sometimes, finding a solution is just a matter of intelligence and desire and when you find (and in the above case - really easily) the solution then it's not strange anymore.

    I always read the comments I respond to and it doesn't matter how silly they are.
    Sometimes I only read a part because the nonsense screams to the sky but then I point out that I only read a part.
    What made you suggest I do what I'm doing anyway?

  21. Michael,

    From Wikipedia
    Atheism became the official version of some countries, such as the Soviet Union, the communist Eastern European countries and the People's Republic of China. Karl Marx, an atheist, wrote that "religion is the opium of the masses" and is harmful to society.

    Of course, you can give privacy settings as you wish, but you do not decide what to do.

    "It has mythology and history that are mixed with each other in a way that cannot be separated, therefore it can only be treated as mythology"

    A strange sentence without meaning.
    I suggest you read what I wrote again, and not make things up.

    If you are not interested in the heritage of your people (Bible)
    So you might be interested in the mythology of Odin (not the one you write here) and Thor of the Scandinavians who are revered for their great atheism.

  22. What's new:
    You choose to define atheism as you wish but not according to what it really is.
    The Bolshevik Soviet Union and Mao's China were religious countries, according to my definition - because they believed in a moral doctrine (and in a sense even a doctrine of nature) that no one subjected to criticism.
    This is not the atheism I was talking about.
    The countries I was talking about are Scandinavian countries and if you bothered to listen to the lecture in the link I gave you would know that (and learn many other things).

    The fact that you choose the book of the Bible to command you something is equivalent to someone else's choice to find commandments in Harry Potter.
    It has no logical basis and it all stems from the brainwashing you went through.
    It has mythology and history that are intertwined in a way that cannot be separated and therefore can only be treated as mythology.
    It is a masterpiece only for those who think that murdering gays and Shabbat violators is a masterful act.

  23. The Tanakh is the master book of the Jewish people and of the world
    It has mythology, history, and values
    The Tanach is our commandment to live here in Israel
    The story of how the Torah was revealed in the days of Josiah in the Temple without anyone knowing it.
    There is no unimportance regarding the mythological and his literary value.

  24. There are 2 very "moral" and of course atheist countries that existed in the twentieth century.
    The Bolsheviks in the USSR,
    and the Maoists in China
    Tens of millions of people have great memories of that time!
    ן

  25. A. Ben-Ner:
    I don't know what you are basing your claim on.
    As you have probably already read in my previous comments - Book of Kings XNUMX - Chapter XNUMX - tells how the Torah was revealed in the days of Josiah in the Temple without anyone knowing it.
    This leaves many possibilities regarding what happened before (and casts great doubt on the very existence of the Mount Sinai status or a status similar to it) but this is less important for our purposes.

    What is important for our purpose is that Josiah's contemporaries accepted the religion simply because it was the commandment of the king! Not for any other reason.

    From this it is possible to understand several things, the most important of which is that nothing was needed beyond the command of the king to make people believe.

    It is true - and I have already said this many times on the pages of this website - that it was necessary to invent God to save on the enforcement efforts of religion because there were not yet sophisticated law enforcement systems of the type we have today and it was much more effective to scare the people with the phrase "God (which always all-seeing) will punish you - and if not in this world, then in the next" than through the phrase "the king (who is flesh and blood) will punish you".
    In this sense, the god of religion was simply a means of intimidation that may or may not have been effective.

    Was there no choice?
    Of course she was. People (in the nation of Israel) were just not advanced enough then to invent the method used today.
    Nor were they as advanced as their counterparts in the Far East who managed without a god of intimidation throughout history.

    Did the laws of Judaism benefit the Jews?
    We have no proof of any good done to the Jews in the distant past, but it is very clear that during most of history the damage caused by religion accumulated far more than the benefit.

    What you call "the human calamity" does not exist except in the form of religion!
    The most moral countries are also the most atheistic countries.
    You are invited to hear about it and other things here:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1232718550543562442&hl=en

  26. To Michael
    Look, when Rabbi Moshe came down from Mount Sinai, with the Tablets of the Covenant and the Ten Commandments engraved on them, he
    He (probably) lied to his people and told them that he received them from God.
    This lie was necessary for the people to believe and accept the new laws.
    These laws brought new progress and tremendous prosperity to the people of Israel and to human culture as a whole.
    True, it is not about scientific matters, but matters of morality, society and faith. However, it seems that at that stage of human cultural development, science did not exist as a separate discipline from the wisdom of religion, but was integrated into it. Just as people believed that the idols they themselves made had the power to control their destiny, so they also believed the lies they themselves invented. This was a necessary situation in order to strengthen the faith of the masses in the laws of religion, and therefore this situation (of faith and science being intertwined) was not then, nor is it now, for nothing. There is a very positive purpose to the religious method. Religion is the hope and the cure for all intractable human afflictions - on the one hand, and on the other hand, it, as a "divine" system of "do and don't" laws, constitutes the main brake and regulator against human calamity...

  27. A. Ben-Ner:
    Religion did not try to close the gaps out of lack of choice but out of dishonesty.
    Lying to people and telling them you know something you don't is dishonest.
    It is also counter-productive because it loosens the hands of those who are endowed with the will and ability to discover reality as it is.
    The same dishonesty pushes the promoters of the religion even today.
    I'm not saying that scientists know everything, but I'm clearly saying that religious people don't know anything (and I repeat: nothing!) that scientists don't know.
    All that distinguishes them from the scientists is their willingness to deceive humanity.
    Like religion - so are the other hallucinogenic drugs accessible to everyone, but that doesn't make you accept them as a positive solution.
    The problem with religion is that beyond harming the individual (like a normal drug) it causes group madness and a mad group is much more dangerous than a mad individual.

  28. To Michael
    I agree with all your words.
    At the same time, I, as a secularist, feel that science and liberalism do not have the power to meet all the needs and all the human sufferings. Religion, in my view, is primarily a social and not a scientific discipline. The penetration of religion into the fields of science, in ancient times, was in my opinion due to a lack of choice. There were questions that the science of those days could not explain, and therefore, religion was drawn into this vacuum and had to invent answers, in order to provide an answer, somehow, to the public. For example, why is it raining or not raining, etc., etc. The answers that religion provided were from the religious method, but at least they gave society hope and a feeling that man, in his prayer, has the power to influence and shape reality.
    Scientific discoveries and technological progress presented religion, apparently, "in its darkest state" and this because time and again the errors of religion in understanding the world and nature became clear.
    However, there are still very problematic issues in human existence, for which science has no solutions. First and foremost the problem of death and also less acute problems
    Like the problem of loneliness, sickness and many different kinds of hardships that humanity experiences.
    Here the person seeks comfort, healing for the soul and relaxation.
    I am not sure that religion can really solve all these problems, but I think that the power of science and art in these issues is also not great. The advantage of religion regarding the masses (not specifically Judaism) is that it is accessible to everyone. There is no need for admission conditions, prior knowledge or financial abilities.
    When will the time come when science and art will be accessible to everyone???

  29. A. Ben-Ner:
    But the peace you are talking about goes against the religious commandments!
    That's why he will never be right because there will always be people who read the religious commandments and tell the religious moderates that they are not doing what is assigned to them and there will always be a group of these who are more fanatical and therefore louder and more violent.
    It may be that the religious public is brainwashing itself to feel imperialism on the part of secularism and science, but this is certainly not the result of the actions of some secularist or scientist.
    I have yet to hear of a secularist or scientist who prevented a religious person from observing those of the religious laws that are not coercive on that secularist or scientist. It simply never happened before, therefore any such feeling in the religious public is self-made.

    You suggest that science should not deal with religious issues and I say that there is no such thing as "religious issues".
    Science should deal with everything that can be deciphered about reality.
    He needs to investigate all aspects of reality and find the laws that govern it.
    The only limitation that should apply to him is that he submit himself to the scientific method of experiment and logical conclusions.
    Is there, in your opinion, some facet of reality that science should avoid investigating just because someone calls it "religious"?
    In this "religious" field should we adhere to superstitions even if science can give us a correct answer about them?
    I completely deny that.

  30. To Michael
    I agree with what you said.
    My intention was different from what I understood. I will explain:
    First, there is a lack in the words of the Saifa: whenever the religion, as such, tries to deal with scientific issues, it is guaranteed that it will fail miserably. This is well known from history and there is no need, here, to elaborate with examples.
    In my opinion, the opposite sentence is also true, that is, it is better for science, as such, not to engage in religious rulings.
    In my words I did not try to describe the existing situation, in the present and in the past, in the relationship between religion and science, but the opposite. From a logical analysis of the essential meanings of these two Gothic disciplines, religion and science, I tried to outline a new way of looking at each other, one that would eliminate the mutual, historical bickering between them. I tried to show that it is possible to interpret both in such a way that they do not contradict each other, witness
    So that a certain person can be both religious and a scientist (or
    interested in science - like me).
    You may say that I am naive because religious politics is aggressive and imperialistic and to a large extent this is true, but in my estimation this is exactly how the establishment and the religious public feel towards secularism and science.
    The approach I propose tries to shape future peaceful relations
    as a substitute for the war relations of the past. Thanks.

  31. Guys, I think a little Homer wouldn't hurt you, don't you see that Kafir is being sarcastic in all his comments?

  32. Kafir, your behavior is predictable and typical... when you are pushed into a corner, you retreat, and hang on to "wise men" who supposedly "understand" more than you, because why do they have all the answers! All that is needed is for the country to repent, is to learn a little Torah and a few books of Jewish mysticism, and hopefully everyone will start putting on tefillin and keeping Shabbat!!
    From your other comments, it sounded as if you have all the truth in your hands, the undisputed truth, and you yourself know no less well than others what is true and what is not, when you slap us with the "truths" of the Torah and the Zohar, why if it convinced you, then surely it should convince others !
    But your problem is when people doubt your words and bring convincing claims that refute them, instead of checking if you made a mistake somewhere and missed something - you take responsibility for what you said and run back to the books and rabbis who will load you with another dose of lies. It seems as if you speak from a deep conviction of the truth of the things you say, but on the other hand cannot stand behind them and face counter-criticism.
    It is clear that you have neither the knowledge nor the logical tools to deal with the lies of Zamir Cohen and Co., so at least try to read some material that criticizes them, and listen to the words of people who understand these things more than those pans from which you derive your knowledge... If I were you, I would not "So convinced that they have the whole truth in their hands (or that it is in some one book, even if it is the Torah).
    The claim that "the Torah has everything, more than the scientists know", doesn't it seem a bit too pretentious to you? The Torah is ultimately a book of limited length, and therefore it can contain a finite amount of information... How can such a small book contain information about the entire universe that is not found in countless science books and fat encyclopedias?
    Beyond that, every school student who has read the Torah even superficially, knows that the amount of information in it concerning nature and science is zero, except for the story of creation, and a few other verses - how do you expect to find physics, chemistry, biology, astronomy, and the other sciences there?
    How do you convince such lies?

  33. Kafir:
    I suggest that instead of sending us to read books written hundreds of years ago by people whose entire understanding represented their time (and some of whose words we have already read and seen exactly what things are supposed to mean) or the words of Zamir Cohen, which we have already read and seen how silly and false they are, you read some serious material or - Even better - go to university and learn about evolution, cosmology and philosophy of science.
    After that you might be able to have a conversation here.

  34. Dear people

    I would like to ask you to simply spend some time and read a book or several books by sages and geniuses of the people of Israel from a few hundred years ago and understand for yourself what I am talking about...

    The Torah is a guidebook for a correct and true life, whoever turns to it and studies it understands the universe better than the scientists will ever be able to understand.

    You think that if someone read a chapter of the Torah, then he understood the whole thing by mistake! There are righteous people who devote their whole lives day and night to the Torah and these are the people who can give you better answers than me!

    Please go to the Hidbrot website, Rabbi Zamir Cohen and Rabbi Yitzhak Panger are there, and they have fascinating lectures. I invite each of you to watch a lecture of about half an hour.

    Thank you and Happy holidays 🙂

  35. To sparrow, you only listen to yourself, and are trapped in a vicious circle of circular arguments that assume the desired. On the one hand, you say that religion is superior to science and is correct from it (if science contradicts religion, then religion is right), but on the other hand, you try to prove religious claims with the help of science - when you supposedly cite studies by scientists. After all, it's a beautiful method, if something proves religion - obviously it's because religion knows everything, and if something contradicts it, then it's wrong because religion is divine truth (on the other hand, science proves that it's divine truth... so it's divine truth because science is right...? ).
    The same with the quotes from the Torah and all kinds of ancient books. If there is something that agrees with the modern scientific concepts - then it proves that the religion is real. If there is something that does not agree with science, it is because science is wrong, and it will be proven in the future that what is written in the Torah is true. Another thing is that things that contradict reality, you claim that they are "subject to interpretation because there are seventy faces to the Torah", and things that happen to be correct, then you don't need to interpret them because they convey the truth. In other words, you refer to the literal interpretation or the free interpretation of the text whenever it is convenient for you, but how can you tell when the Torah says that something is indeed as it is written, and when it is a parable?
    If the Torah can be interpreted in different ways, then it is useless, because it actually conveys zero information, and it can be argued that the entire Torah is just a parable that invites endless interpretations. For example, the commandments and the ten commandments - maybe they are just metaphors that are actually something different from what you think?
    You also systematically ignore the lies in your holy books - for example, that the "wise men" claimed that animals were created from earth and dirt, how do you explain that? It is not something that is a parable or that can be interpreted here and there, it is an unequivocal claim about the world that can be tested - and even you know it is false. So this thing alone, proves that the people who wrote the books of the Jewish religion, often had no idea what they were talking about, and of course the source is not divine.
    But you have already decided that what you believe in is true, and all your ramblings are just excuses. When you are caught and accused of lying, you jump that we do not know everything and it is impossible to understand God. But nevertheless, the religion claims in an individual way to know the will of God from the human beings, and also to give information about nature (as you claim exists in the holy books). So decide, do we understand God or not? If it is impossible to understand God, then religion is necessarily false, because no human being can understand his will, and certainly a book with a limited number of pages cannot reflect it...

  36. A. son. candle:
    You're wrong.
    It is no coincidence that Galileo was imprisoned and tortured by the Inquisition.
    It is also not a coincidence that every time an article about evolution or the big bang appears here, the religious jump in and try to deceive the public with all kinds of lies.
    First of all, it's just weird to come and argue in front of people who argue non-stop and have no argument between them.
    Your description of religion does not match the description of any religion itself.
    Religion not only asks who created the world (and gives a nonsensical answer to that), it also provides "evidence" for this - whether in the form of all kinds of explicit assertions about nature (such as the assertion that the hare and the rabbit rummage), whether in the form of the creation story that is supposed to explain how God created the world, and if in the form of "prophecies" all kinds of rabbis force into her text only after the things happened in reality.
    In this sense, religion is simply based on deception and lies.
    But all this is not the main thing.
    The main thing is, of course, that religion has laws that determine how a person should behave and these laws cause every fiber of a moral person's soul to cry Hams.
    If that is not enough, these laws lead the believers to try to impose their crazy beliefs and their immoral lifestyles on others.
    Therefore, when I argue with you, I do so not only as a scientist who resents the lies they spread about the facts of nature; I also do this as a private individual who fights for individual freedom and the right to live, think, create, and enjoy the fruits of his creation without part of those fruits being stolen in favor of some thief whose teachings are his "art".

  37. What happened to you, why are you answering these trolls? If they are stupid enough to believe lies, then there is no way to convince them. You just have to ignore the claims of religious people who try to prove the religion. Isn't it about time, guys, after the amount of text that has been spilled on the site on the subject?

  38. Dear Friends
    You are entering a "dead end" called a conflict between religion and science. It is a futile and therefore unnecessary conflict. The relationship between religion and science can (perhaps) be compared to two dimensions, independent, whose vector product equals = zero.
    I will try to explain: an objective debate can exist between two methods that offer different solutions to some issue. For example, on the question of what is better for the security of the State of Israel? This will say annexation while the other
    He will say deprivation (renunciation). And we got - a debate.
    However, there can be no debate between religion and science because they are two different methods, each of which asks a different question about existence and the universe and therefore also gives a different answer.
    Religion asks: Who created the world? And the one and only answer is clear……God.
    Science asks: What exists in the world? and gives a series of answers and phenomena that are increasingly revealed
    With the advancement of scientific research.
    Why is it similar?
    Imagine two people meeting. One asks the other: How is the Prime Minister?
    while the second asks the first: what time is it?
    Can there be any disagreement between them?
    After all, the answer that interests one is not at all relevant for the interest of the other, and vice versa.
    That is why, in my opinion, the reason that a religious person can and can,
    Like the secular, to be a man of science and will not feel any internal contradiction at all. Thanks.

  39. Why not let kfir dar argue with water? a quote:-
    "The water is indeed alive and when you talk to it, you affect it"

    So Mr. Kafir, speak with water, argue with them and persuade them, even, bring them back to repentance, just leave us with your fanaticism.

    Happy Holidays
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  40. Kfir,

    I'm not sure I understood why you claim that when there is a contradiction between science and the Torah then the Torah is right. Why do you have this statement?

  41. Roi Shalom

    Although there are arguments and contradictions, everything has an explanation. It should be noted that the Jews drew most of their knowledge from the Torah and not from science. When science claimed that the world is flat, the Rabbi pointed out that the world is not flat and when in one part of the globe there is darkness in another part there is light and on the other side there are people standing on their feet and living normal lives just like us.... It should be noted that this was not written today but thousands of years ago!! Regarding the sun That she has a vagina is specifically indicated! Regarding the baby that he is in the position in his mother's belly is specifically indicated! The same is true of the mechanism of blood clotting (circumcision) and the same is true of the 40th day when the child receives life! And the same is true of the position on Mount Sinai where we received the Torah, it is written in the interpretation that all the people I see the voices!!! Did anyone know that you can see voices??
    Today, with the help of ultrasound, we realized that the voices can indeed be seen!! And the language we use is a healthy language (according to research) did anyone know that the water is alive?? Only after a scientist conducted an experiment did it become clear that the water is indeed alive and that when you talk to it, it affects it (all these are not our experiments but by foreign scientists) and on and on and on

    That is why there may be contradictions between the interpretations of the sages because as it is written and said there are 70 aspects to the Torah, but there are things that are written clearly and plainly and do not imply 2 aspects!!

    Thanks

  42. This anomaly is very strange.

    And as usual it turns into a discussion about God and co.

    I hope there will be more information about it because not too much is known about it.
    If there is anything else, I'm sure it will be published in "Hidan" 😀

    Heavenly holiday.

  43. Kfir,

    I'm quoting a comment I wrote a week ago, which aims to answer a similar question: how the Torah contains clues to everything that science has already discovered.

    —–

    How did the sages who wrote the Gemara and the Zohar know about the division of the continents? This is an excellent question. The answer is that those good Jews were not fools, and many of them were interested in the sciences and philosophy that prevailed in the countries they lived in, and even engaged in them themselves, such as Rambam. As a result, many guesses about the ways of the world entered the Talmud and the Zohar, some successful and some wrong. It is important to remember that the Talmud contains the opinions of many sages, so it can also bring contradictory opinions.

    Some of these news, for example:

    1. The continents are splitting ("Tana said - one land literally took out the water and from it 7 countries were formed." What about the islands, by the way? Well, he probably forgot that). By the way, it is worth noting that according to another verse, the Zohar also claimed that the seven continents are inside the earth, and see Pardes Ramonim, Shear XNUMX, Shear Seder Amidatan, Chapter XNUMX: "It is agreed that seven lands are literally inside the earth, etc...."
    2. A child comes to life on the 40th day in his mother's womb.
    3. The earth is flat.
    4. The earth is spherical.
    5. Lice come from dirt and sweat, and they are not born from each other (Tract Shabbat XNUMX EB - "A louse is not a cow and a herd").
    6. Mice and creepers can be created from the earth (Rashi, in the Mishnah Keko interpreted, and Z'l: "There is a kind of mouse that is not a cow and a rabbi but is created by itself from the earth, like garbage that spawns worms...").
    7. The world is made up of four elements (Teacher of Perplexities, Part I, Chapter IV).
    8. The sun revolves around the earth (Rambam, Basic Laws of the Torah, PG XNUMX).

    Another proof that Sage Shabu knew a lot about the science around them can be found in Beli Nada XNUMX and Beli Bekurot XNUMX. In both of these sources it is told about rabbis who turned to doctors to clarify a medical problem, and according to their determination they changed the halacha accordingly.

    So the answer to your question is that if enough statements are thrown around (and especially when some of them contradict each other), some of them must turn out to be true. Today there are many demagogues who try to take the words of the Sages and 'prove' that they are true, through specific sentences that they take and many times distort the meaning they had in those days. In the same breath they also dismiss verses that express a contrary opinion. And in short, those empty and fools form with their own hands the tradition of learning and logic accepted in Judaism.

    Happy holiday,

    Roy.

  44. hello my father

    I just want to let you know that Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai, the Divine Accepted, wrote the things in the commentary to the Torah for sure that the world is not flat, that the sun has a sheath and all the stars that surround the earth their size and their movement and also their influence on the zodiac!!!
    Everything is written explicitly and not implicitly in a book written over 1000 years ago!!!

    Regarding the other religions, it is clear that the Jewish religion and the Torah are the source and all other religions are imitations.
    Our religion is the only one that at Mount Sinai when we received the Torah the whole nation was present!!!
    And not some prophet who received the Torah in a cave (like Muhammad)
    Or like Christianity

    post Scriptum

    The world has existed for less than 6000 years and no more...

    Thanks

  45. hello kafir
    Our knowledge of the Torah is reasonable plus. Even according to your method, there is only one factor who knows the entire Torah - and I personally do not believe in its existence.
    Beyond that, why do you need to know about the Torah of Israel, maybe you were wrong and you need to observe the mitzvot of the Indian gods or the Easter Island statues? And maybe even of a people that became extinct eight thousand years ago?
    If we want to learn all of them, how much unnecessary information will we accumulate in our heads, and we won't have room for science in our heads.
    The more science is discovered, the farther away it is from the religious arguments and needs an extremely expansive interpretation to reconcile them. All the things you claim in the second paragraph, religion knew in retrospect, after science discovered they suddenly remembered to reinterpret all kinds of verses.

    You're short, so you'll only have yourself to blame.

  46. Hello father

    Undoubtedly, science advances and discovers things, but like many theories that were common a few decades ago that now with more modern and technologically advanced equipment are present in the errors of many theories, so when there is a contradiction between science and the Torah, surely the Torah is right and science will probably discover the correctness of the Torah in the future...

    Like it used to be thought that the earth is flat and that it stands on giant elephants or giant whales and when they move there is an earthquake and the Torah always said that the earth does not stand on anything and there are heavens and the Torah knew how many continents and more and more and all this I am reminding you even before anyone even had binoculars 🙂

    Does anyone have a doubt that all creation is an act of God? Could all the data in nature and creation have been created by chance without a deliberate hand??? All the legality was created by chance ??

    The question is how knowledgeable are you about the taps of the Torah and the Secret Law??? Do you know the Torah ignorantly enough to come and say that there is a contradiction between science and the Torah??

    I also fall short of understanding the Torah or the science...

  47. Kafir:
    So your claim is that actually the rabbit and the rabbit are actually ruminating. Right?

  48. L. A. Ben-Ner

    Science only proves the claims of the Torah... all of creation itself is included within the Torah.

    I say as soon as there is a contradiction between what the Torah says and what science says, then the Torah is undoubtedly right because whoever created the world surely knows what is in it and its legality.
    It should be understood that the Torah was written and existed even before the world itself, just as before a building is built there are plans, so before the world was created, the Torah already existed black fire on top of white fire. We will probably never understand the creation itself or the legality of it since the human mind cannot contain or understand the divine thought. It is about spiritual and heavenly worlds and angels and heavenly armies...

  49. The Great Attractor has been known for many years and it does not make sense that someone would write a news story about what was discovered more than thirty years ago (meaning, of course, someone who is a scientist because others can also bring us "news" from 1750 while ignoring more recent news that disproved it).

  50. L. A. Ben-Ner

    The structure we are talking about is the "Great Puller" and I am not sure if it is also called the Great Wall. As far as I know, the huge mass that is supposed to be in this direction has not been discovered. Of course, in the end it will be explained with the help of the dark mass.
    Sorry if I got the name wrong.
    I am talking personal information and when I find a quote from sources, I will quote.
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  51. Yehuda:
    Not all movements are explained by gravitation - no one claims this.
    Regarding the movement in question - it is assumed that it is gravity.
    Cosmologists are in no hurry to invent a special force for every phenomenon. If there is a simple explanation - why invent a complicated explanation?
    It's called "Ockham's Razor"
    The building in question is not the "Great Wall" because the Great Wall is a known building and here we are talking about an unknown building.
    What is its composition? I guess you won't be surprised that the composition of the unknown structure is also unknown.

    Chest:
    Peculiar should be translated as "unique" or "exceptional" rather than "characteristic".

    Dan:
    If the entire universe rotates at a uniform angular velocity, there is no way to discover this except by centrifugal force (and this is only on the assumption that there is any meaning to the space in which the universe rotates and that it is not the universe that interprets the space, and that the force of persistence is in relation to that space and not in relation to the universe).
    In any case, the abnormal movement in question is not explained by such a rotation even if the speed of the rotation changes.

    Valerie Knocks:
    I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
    By the way, does the following link mean anything to you?
    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-2811822,00.html

  52. Here I am saying that the dark matter is actually a mega black hole created from the simultaneous collapse of several suns.
    I'm just saying that the dark matter is actually a huge army of intelligent beings who have invented a way to be invisible.
    And I say that dark matter is not really matter but antimatter with a positive spin.
    Here I say that the dark matter is a gateway to the IX spatial dimension.
    If I say that the dark matter does not really exist, but it is our brain's interpretation of reality, our brain is a coder of reality, and by the way, who said that it does not have errors and deviations from the original reality?
    And I say that dark matter makes up 99% of the universe's mass.
    Propello: Jesus, Abraham, Jacob, Shemesh did not really exist, these are urban legends.

  53. an important question

    If they discover the Higgs boson that creates the mass
    So how much would a kilo of Higgs boson actually weigh?
    או
    What will be heavier, a kilo of feathers or a kilo of Higgs boson?

  54. No. Ben-Ner

    The structure they are talking about is also called the Great Wall, which is supposed to be a collection of huge mass in the direction of motion of every Virgo cluster to which our Milky Way belongs. The structure has not been discovered and in my humble opinion it will not be discovered either.

    I was happy to see your approach to "dark mass" not as a mass but as a solution to a cosmological problem that could also be other than mass.
    I will send you my article to your email. I didn't give a solution there either, I just showed that the problem, even though it is a huge cosmological one, is simple and maybe also easy to solve.
    I would love to receive your opinion to my email.

    Happy holiday to you and all the science responders
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

  55. Valerie Naksh,
    Interesting, what you're suggesting is that the dark mass might actually be energy (or some kind of background energy) trapped in the void? Which according to Einstein's formula gives that empty mass. Try to develop this idea a little, sounds promising if it's true

  56. Hello everyone and happy holiday.
    In my opinion, the big bang was not and was not created and it is mainly suitable for people who need the Book of Genesis and God!
    All matter in the universe was created. There is nothing and not in any big bang and I mainly rely on the famous formula e=mc2 Energy and mass are two sides of the same coin, therefore when a small part of the universe splits into two parts positive and negative energy and each of the energies collapses into itself and attracts each other and thus we have a pair of Two quarks one down and one up
    3 such pairs form a hydrogen atom, and the rest is already known.
    Because the universe is not managed by intelligent beings (God) and the formation of matter is spontaneous
    So the universe does not always release energy and anti-energy from its production line equally, therefore when the energy is of a small size that is not enough for it to collapse into itself and become a quark, it collapses
    little and does not interact with the other particles and this is actually the famous dark matter!
    And when the energy is greater than what is needed to create a quark then it collapses in on itself and sheds a certain amount of energy "until it feels comfortable to exist".

    Galaxies move differently from each other because there is a discrepancy between the amount of matter between each galaxy.

  57. to kfir dar
    As far as I understand, "science" as such, does not disagree with the things you wrote here. After all, all scientific discoveries
    They are the creation of the Creator. What, then, is the difference between what you say and what science says?
    You say - God made everything.
    Science says - let's check what God created? (And we will do this with all the technological and intellectual means at our disposal).

    Do you see a contradiction here? I don't think so!

  58. Yehuda Sabdarmish
    A. Although the term "dark mass" does not appear explicitly
    In the article, however, it appears in a different wording:
    "….to create such speed, they believe that there must be a large invisible and unknown structure in the universe.."
    By the way, since the dark mass has not yet been found and has not yet been explained, it is definitely possible that it includes several different physical factors. As far as I understand, no one claims with certainty that this is exactly a mass in the conventional sense. The meaning, at the moment, of the term "dark mass" is that there is a movement that does not obey the known laws of gravity and the amount of matter observed in the universe and therefore there is an unknown factor that has been given a temporary name - "dark mass". The omission you raise in your article (which unfortunately I did not read)
    Good, for the time being, like any other remnant that has not yet been confirmed by observational means.
    I would appreciate it if you would send me the article you wrote on this topic to my address: avner@brafman.co.il
    Thanks.
    B. Following on from Hezi's response, before, perhaps it would be better to translate the name of the aforementioned movement to: strange-characteristic-movement (mam).

  59. Attention ladies and gentlemen, please open a siddur and read "Ketar Malchut" you will understand exactly how things are built, how many stars there are, how many galaxies and who created and created everything!!!

    There is a creator for the world and he renews the creation every day!

  60. Thanks for the report. This is an interesting and important discovery, and you should continue to follow the research on the subject. Amusingly, the phenomenon reminds me of the movement of the Earth's tectonic plates.

    A small note for the translation: although the word peculiar is used in everyday language in the sense of "strange", it has another meaning that is more common in high language and is more suitable for the current context - "typical".

  61. Again and again we see that something very fundamental in cosmology is falsified.
    Please note that in this article they do not try to explain the strange movements by introducing the dark mass everywhere because apparently they also understand that using it as a miracle solution is excessive
    .
    In my opinion, it is impossible for all cosmological movements to be explained only by gravitation!

    I wrote an article on the subject that shows the possibility of very small pressure differences that would be sufficient to cause cosmological motion, even perhaps the dark mass dark mass pressure differences that would be used in a much smaller amount.
    My father checks the article and it seems to me that he is not enthusiastic about publishing it. We will respect his wish.
    Happy holiday
    Sabdarmish Yehuda

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