Despite the expectations, preparations, hopes and prospects, we did not receive a binding agreement to reduce emissions and budgets for countries that will be affected by sea level rise
Someone will do the math on how many hungry mouths could be fed, how many solar panels to place, how much water to purify, how many trees to plant and other positive environmental activities, with the money spent on the preparations for the conference, on flying the thousands of participants and their accommodation and the other expenses that were wasted to bring us to a better world, to try And to prevent further environmental destruction, was this the (stated) goal of the convention?
So what did we get? Despite the expectations, preparations, hopes and prospects, we did not receive a binding agreement to reduce emissions. Even though the destruction of forests causes 20% of emissions and even though the destroyed forests will never again absorb DETP, even though there were promises of payment to forested countries, a payment that would guarantee protection, preservation and prevention of felling, we did not receive the obligation to pay for stopping the destruction of forests,
Although it is clear to everyone that climate change will cause heavy damage, although there was talk of the need to budget huge sums for protection, for preparations that would prevent future damage, we did not receive a significant commitment to cover expenses for the preparations for a warmer world.
Although data is published every week that shows how with the active help of the human race we are approaching mass extinction (on a geological scale), we did not receive worldwide cooperation to prevent the further destruction of the species.
Yes, we got a pointless, toothless, worthless compromise between the US and China and an (excited) non-binding call to reduce emissions. We also received a demonstration of general impotence (impotence - generalis) of world leaders. If there was someone who thought that only in our immediate environment were the leaders in impotence...
We received proof and a demonstration that we were wrong. This is a common situation, too common. I (the little one) and many others will continue to write, speak and act for the protection of the environment, for the sake of its human inhabitants and others, for the possibility of continuing a proper existence for life, plants and everything around us, a continuation that will allow a proper existence... for us.
Ah... if in other places I received about our environmental situation... then, at a conference that was supposed to march the human race towards an actual trial and mitigation of the harmful impact of human actions outside of... yok, we received... improved relations with Turkey?
God bless you!
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The fact that there is or isn't global warming doesn't really matter (I think there is, but each to their own beliefs).
What matters is that our world is deteriorating. That's what matters. Talking about the quality of life and the environment only in the context of CO2 is a mistake.
See videos of [lord monckton] on YouTube and you will understand what the whole story of global warming is
This is what calls for allowing cars to pollute the environment - it's a shame that jeeps have 2 exhausts and they pollute the air unnecessarily - why introduce an air pollution standard for new vehicles all over the world that will make car manufacturers build economical cars otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell cars.
Ron,
Do you actually think that Israel is getting colder? According to your sources, what is the forecast for the upcoming Jubilee, and how do you suggest we prepare?
I showed that cold and snow accumulation records were broken in the USA and Europe.
If necessary, I will bring articles about the harsh winter in Australia and low temperature records,
or in South America
or about the rare snow in Baghdad and Saudi Arabia,
Or about the snowstorm that made a name for itself in China
The earth is a conspirator - how dare it not live up to the false model?
Oh well, at least it complies with the cyclical model...
This wrangling sounds very wise Asaf, similar to what I would expect from some rabbi. Many words do little. Actually, it's not new, you see it in the articles.
A fruitful discussion is conducted by exchanging ideas,
When there is a debate between ideas and facts,
The fruitfulness of the discussion is impaired.
A discussion is an exchange of opinions and information
And debate is an exchange of ignorance
??? What is the connection?
Assaf said that there is a cooling in Europe because golf has stopped. There is indeed some evidence that this has happened in the past. I ask, where is the evidence that this is happening now. Why do you need to mention the whole past?
I don't understand your argument.
According to your idea, in every article about satellites one should start from Sputnik and list all the satellites so far.
Father, the theory is known, only that it is about the mass of glaciers with a mass at least several thousand times what is happening today.
I haven't seen any testing regarding the state of the Gulf Stream today, to assume that this is happening without testing and without the conditions being met now is not science, it is bullshit.
Between the period of the last ice age and today there were at least 5000 cumulative years of higher temperatures than today. All this without CO2, without the mass of the glaciers and without human intervention.
It is interesting that you do not provide these data. I really wondered why? Don't you like the preaching?
Ron, did you not read Assaf Rosenthal's article from about a week ago that says that due to disturbances in the Gulf Stream the whole world will warm up but Europe will cool down. Besides, you don't know that it's cold in the winter, and if it's minus 20 instead of minus 18, it's still cold.
Global warming is giving its signals not only in the USA but also in Europe.
Cold snap wreaks havoc across Europe
Snowstorms and sub-zero temperatures have killed at least 30 people across Europe as well as severely disrupting air, rail and road transport.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8423442.stm
soon
Proof that the earth is flat
A. There is no conspiracy at the level of a general collusion between the banks and politicians and companies, it never works like that, even in other corruptions of the government and large companies. They realize on their own that they should cooperate and not encourage the revelations that the warming is a fabrication.
B. The banks are not left-wing at all, and most of the supporters of the issue today are staunch capitalists who have understood where the money is.
third. 99% of scientists?!?! You made me laugh, where did you get this crazy number?? I have not seen a poll on the matter, however, in light of the numbers of senior scientists who are against + petitions against it signed by many thousands of scientists + the crusade conducted by IPCC scientists against anyone who exposes their lies (they don't do it for nothing. They are under pressure) - Try more in the direction of 50% of which 80% are afraid to speak.
I thought people here were giving verified data.
Shame on the "Scientific" site (I can't download the quotation marks (B.C.)).
Well, discussion is not possible here on the site - you are blocking my comments
And my answer to the light.
Father, check who funded Obama, see who are the people holding positions in his government
Almost all of them are Wall Street.
There is no right and left
It's a game of good cop and bad cop
The agenda is the same
Also here in Israel by the way - look at the right-wing government - what different actions are there?
The choice is fiction for the masses
The people behind the scenes (capital) are the ones who really decide
To translate, you can remove the insults from the word conspiratorial. Anyone who accepts the position of everyone except that of the majority of scientists (absolute majority 99%) is a conspirator.
And we will add to Or's response - since when are bankers members of the economic left? After all, as capitalists they are distinctly right-wing people and if you look at who opposes any action in the US regarding global warming, these are the right-wing people from George Bush's seminary and those who promote the fight against global warming are people from human rights movements and left-wing movements who are not interested in worsening the situation of the poor . Someone argued to me that what this will cause is that the expenses will rise and more people on the planet will enter the circle of poverty, the question is whether this is true, and if so, is it considered against the fact that we will not have the planet?
Let me make sure I understand your point:
Scientists and the world banks joined together in the global warming fiction. The scientists want funding for research, the banks want to prevent the economic development of the third world and suffocate the middle class.
All the countries of the world (at least those who arrived in Copenhagen last week) have fallen into the trap or are complicit in the conspiracy - including the third world countries, who demanded a greater reduction of emissions?
Correct me if I missed or distorted something but this is what I understood from you.
If this is indeed your opinion, tell me why you attribute to so many scientists a blatant lie, and why are they the majority and not the minority? And if indeed most scientists lie for money, why trust them in other fields? Do you want to name scientists or studies that you accuse of forgery or lying, and present evidence?
If indeed reducing emissions will help the global bankers, why does the American right oppose it (for example former President Bush)? Doesn't he support these bankers/threatened by the development of the third world? Won't the development of the third world increase consumption and trade, in a way that will help those bankers? Won't the same economic development help those countries pay their debts to the World Bank?
Light, look for the light
A "conspiratorial" place to start
http://green-logic.blogspot.com/
Light is just the opposite
Because the oil companies got on the bandwagon - it shows that their business is not disrupted
And the anthropogenic warming agenda does not threaten them
Because it's not really about the environment
but to impose a tax on the consumer - suffocating the middle class
and the destruction of the third world and its stopping from progress and a threat to them.
When I say about them - I mean the "elite" behind this idea, the global bankers - whose wet dream is a world government headed by them
Tamir and Ron, you repeat your arguments that global warming is a conspiracy. Even the oil companies don't claim this (there was a news story not long ago). What exactly are you basing yourself on, and if your sources are so reliable, why don't the oil companies trust them?
https://www.hayadan.org.il/exxonmobil-president-oppose-copenhagen-1012094/
My grandfather (a scientist himself) has said this many times, that if the climate issues were really of interest to those at the conference, they would have held it via video calls and not pollute the world with their jet flights.
Continue to treat CO2. You will not understand why no one is willing to invest in the environment.
In order for people to want to invest in a better environment, you have to stop lying to them.
You think that maybe CO2 doesn't really warm, but still it's worth continuing to claim that in order to drag the people to lower the standard of living (which is supposed to help the environment - in your opinion). The thing is, people didn't increase their quality of life because of a false claim, and as a result, you also can't convince them of truly protecting the environment.
You have lost credibility.
Although the conference failed, it cannot be said that there were no efforts there. Another Nobel Prize for Obama?
Asaf:
Indeed one of our leaders from the last time is on trial for excessive powers.
Regarding the 20% of deforestation - aren't you double charging us?
Is the discussed emission created in the actual process of deforestation or does this number also take into account the loss of absorption of DTP.
Ami:
There is a sentence that you repeat in many of your responses - "money is in heaps".
I don't know what it is based on.
Although it is true that when you put a lot of money together, you can define the accumulation as a pile, but you mean that there is enough money for everything we want.
This is clearly not true.
The allocation of funds is therefore carried out according to priorities and the priorities are determined - in the absence of any other option and not as something to be condemned - by politics.
I'm actually optimistic.
If we are destined to become extinct then let's do it quickly and elegantly, why drag out the dying and the bleeding?
After all, our ancestors already knew that "evil consumes itself".
Ron, why are you surprised that there is snow in Washington in the middle of winter? It doesn't say anything about global warming, after all no one says there won't be winter in the northern part when the earth turns its southern part towards the sun.
We are talking about an average increase - both in winter and in summer, but each has his own basis.
Welcome back to the USA, President Obama Global Warming Conference
oh wait…
What global warming?
Snowplows cleared the runway at Andrews Air Force Base in suburban Washington as President Barack Obama returned from climate talks in Copenhagen. The White House said Obama rode in a motorcade back to the White House, instead of taking his helicopter, because of the conditions.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/winter/2009-12-18-snow-flooding_N.htm
The only thing that failed was the plot
They need to think positively
You need to reward the added forest area, prove that the forest area has increased and by how much
And not because they don't destroy it.
Should be rewarded according to investment in clean energy that does not harm the environment
And not according to the reduction in the amount of damage they will do in the future (carbon emissions).
Because what actually happens is the complete opposite
Europe does indeed emit less carbon, but the fuel for cars is grown in the Amazon
And the plastic products are imported from China
And with the rest of the palettes are offset with other countries
Everything is a work in the eyes, no wonder no agreements are reached.
To the editor, there are a few technical matters to correct in the original text.
collect,
If you think that there is meaning to the money poured out there in Copenhagen then it is simply naive. There is money in heaps. Money is not a problem and it doesn't matter how much they say there isn't and there isn't any money. There is money and there is too much of it and we don't even know where to pour it. The problem is first and foremost political. Technological race and power games. It starts and ends there.
Beyond that, I believe that the ancient argument of forests is an irrelevant argument for many reasons. This discussion is old and there is no need to repeat the facts again.
To talk about money or forests is to see a very small and limited part of the picture and thus to help the capitalist-fascists who want our neighbors in their malicious plan to gain more and more power at the expense of the climate spin.
Greetings friends,
Ami Bachar