Announcement from the National Academy of Sciences
The Council of the Israel National Academy of Sciences convened for a special non-quorum meeting this morning (22/7/2012) with the participation of the previous presidents of the Academy, for an extraordinary discussion of the decision made last week in the General Assembly of Yosh (the Council for Higher Education, Judea and Samaria) on the academic status of The University Center in Ariel.
This decision was made without the establishment of an international inspection committee as is customary and without a fundamental and in-depth discussion of the need for the establishment of another research university, as indicated by the HOT (Committee for Planning and Budgeting) in its documents relating to this issue.
The Academic Council views with great severity the decision of the General Assembly of the YOS, which explicitly contradicts the position of the OT, which also expresses the position of the heads of the academic system in Israel.
The Academy Council believes that this is an unusual move that may endanger the structure of the entire higher education system for many years. The decision regarding the academic recognition and institutionalization of the Ariel University Center bypasses the OT, the professional and independent body entrusted with both the planning and budgeting of the higher education system.
This is a blatant government intervention in the higher education system, which we are ordered to maintain its independence.
The Academy Council calls on Lottery to refrain from receiving any stipend that is not in accordance with its plan.
The Academy Council further calls on the Government of Israel to stop this process, and to hold a responsible, professional and impartial discussion, in order to maintain the magnificent and vital system of research universities and all institutions of higher education in the State of Israel.
The Israeli National Academy of Sciences was founded and operates according to a law (1960-XNUMX), according to which it is required to advise the government of Israel on research and scientific-research planning issues of national importance, and is charged with maintaining and promoting scientific excellence in the country.
Summary of the events so far on this topic - Avi Blizovsky
As I recall, the Planning and Budgeting Committee believed that after a lost decade in the universities, the research and infrastructure in the existing universities should be restored and a new university should not be opened. This position was also taken by the president of Bar-Ilan University, Prof. Moshe Koa, a position that caused controversy within the university that inaugurated the academic center in Ariel at the beginning of its existence. On the other hand, Minister Gideon Sa'ar and the Council for Higher Education Yosh determined that the college passed the requirements for becoming a university in the five years in which it was given a test.
It should be noted that about a month ago I paid a visit to the university center and was impressed by some of the advanced research being done at the center, due to the circumstances it is not a lot of research, but some of it sounds promising. However, it is likely not the quality and quantity of research done at Ariel that will determine the fate of the institution, but other forces, including among others the issue of the distribution of resources within the higher education system, as well as political concerns.
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Senior lecturer at Ariel,
I see there is no argument between us. Although, in my opinion, salvation will not come from here (this site). It's a waste of your time, you seem to me like someone who can invest this time in things much more useful to you and the company. And to earn much more from it than if you stand still. Again, good luck on your way,
And that we will all benefit from people like you.
Being a technocrat I am far from believing in ideals and ideologies. What's more, experience says that the more ideological the society, the more corrupt it is. At the same time, it should not be ignored that a person like B does get a better life in general, and, among other things, a more accessible and higher quality education in particular. A teacher who is not engaged in research can deliver a first-year Hadova course in a high-quality manner. But I doubt if he will be able to deliver the core courses of the engineering subjects and educate good engineers. There are countries (mainly poor) where there is a severe shortage of professionals and thus higher education is also affected. But this is not the case in Israel, which has been blessed with an abundance of excellent talents, and only the system does not always know or want to integrate them and use their potential. And so it happens that many good people do not return from post-docs, because there is nowhere and nothing to return to. For the position of "textbook reader" when you actually have nothing to do research for, because for a college professor it is likely that you will not grow for many years, and it does not matter how much you achieve and publish. And the main victims are not necessarily those doctors, it's the students who, as mentioned, receive a less good education.
In view of their wonderful talent for constantly spouting lofty and patriotic things about excellence and achievements, quite a few academics in Israel lead lives of comfort and idleness. And what is required of the man? To stand in front of the blackboard for several hours every week and mutter familiar texts which he repeats every year. Is it equivalent to working in high-tech for example (since the salaries in Israel are not really different). Israel, by the way, is among the last countries where tenure in the academy exists. This is not the case, for example, in England, Canada and most universities in the USA. There, most of the professors are in a constant struggle for their job and they must prove themselves both in research and in teaching time and time again, and the competition is fierce. And for reference - if we take an average professor in Western countries, it will be seen that he changes his workplace at least several times during his career. Whereas in Israel the system breeds idleness and mediocrity, both in colleges (why me - I retired for retirement at the rank of senior lecturer) and in universities - (what do I care after I've already received tenure). Of course not everyone does this. For example, I and many like me in colleges continue to research and publish evidence that this usually does not advance us anywhere. Of course, the universities also have professors who work very hard. But the right thing for the system is, in my opinion and in the opinion of many, increasing competitiveness and eliminating barriers.
It is very possible that the very establishment of Ariel College was a political act intended to strengthen the settlements, a goal that is altogether very specific and local. But the dynamics of the institution and perhaps of society as a whole in the end make the institution in question something much bigger and cardinal.
Senior lecturer at Ariel
Do you understand what people like B are telling you? Go fight! (so that they can live better).
In my opinion, people like you should not be involved in this politics.
If you can also lecture abroad, go there. You will both earn more and they will earn more from you. There will be more benefit from you, from there and not from here. Here people like you are exploited, to make a profit (political or otherwise) and then, throw them to the dogs. At least abroad (or at least at another university - I don't know you and your situation), you will also be able to receive a proper reward for your work. Here in Israel, the people who appreciate them for their work are rare.
To the lecturer:
Indeed we agree that there is a problem.
Defining the problem (and correct me if I'm wrong):
The upper class in the State of Israel tramples the lower classes.
This is expressed, among other things, in institutions of higher education.
the question:
What to do?
It is clear to me that we have to fight!
The struggle is neither easy nor simple.
But the struggle is necessary!
heart
My personal issue is not the issue here, if I stay in Israel or not, it is not really important. What is important is that a bloody and ugly class struggle is taking place here. Universities in Israel generally want to remain the property of the upper classes, whether they are lecturers or students (and the class association of different ethnicities is already another issue). But even the lower classes have aspirations to succeed in life and advance. Then they started going abroad to study, and of course some of them didn't come back either.
So what did the universities say? Class apartheid is good for us and we certainly will not work to abolish it. We will establish a network of Bantustans, the colleges, in which the lecturers will be deprived of any ability to advance in terms of research and academic degrees (they took special care of this) and thus they will not be able to threaten us. The students in the Bantustans will receive semi-fictitious degrees and therefore will also remain in the positions they came from, and thus we will get rid of the problem with the Shrabaloff method and holding the poor.
And here is one college, thanks to the especially strong political lobby, trying to break through the system fence. Of course, as a result, she got up not only to scream and howl, but also a sophisticated and ugly bureaucratic game in the committees. If they succeed in thwarting the attempt, of course someone like me will not have a place here because it would be a shame for me to burn myself. They will probably find someone who knows how to read a textbook to the class. But if the attempt is crowned with success, the reward will be distributed and others will also demand to leave the Bantustan. And as mentioned, this is a real danger to the continued hegemony of the current elitist group and the hidden apartheid in Israeli society.
To the lecturer:
We agree that there is a problem in the State of Israel today.
the question :
How can I solve the problem?
Escape?
For me it is out of the question.
We have not run away until today and we will not run away in the future.
This is our country.
Our only country.
We will not give her up.
The second remaining option is:
struggle!
A struggle to change the situation.
We passed Pharaoh. We will get through this too!
It's a shame that you get involved in politics and let "one who understands well" give his political vice at Ariel's expense.
The students who study at Ariel and also the esteemed lecturer do not come because of politics but to learn and study in a reputed and high-quality institution like Ariel.
"One who understands well" continue with your hypocrisy as if Tel Aviv University was not founded on the ruins of Sheikh Munis and as if the Hebrew University is not currently located in all of Issawaya beyond the Green Line!!
Keep your hypocrisy to yourself as if Ariel University is connected to all the troubles with the Arabs!!
I am not guilty of anything, study history and see who caused them to be in this situation (they attacked us to destroy us).
Continue chanting "conquest" conquest" and we will continue to settle the land
There is no occupation because a nation cannot be an occupier in its own country (the Land of Israel) and it turns out that there is no occupation from a legal point of view either (Levi report).
I remind you that Ariel met all the criteria and a committee of six professors - a Nobel laureate, three Israel laureates, a Wolf laureate and an AMT laureate unanimously determined that Ariel deserves to be a university.
You can see the full report here:
http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/divur/_.pdf
And there is no budgetary argument because the Minister of Finance has committed to a budgetary increase and thus no university will be harmed.
And there is also a government decision from 2005 to establish two more universities in Israel (in Ariel and Galilee).
Therefore, there is no obstacle to supporting the transformation of Ariel into a university and it is to be congratulated that Israel has another research university.
Beyond that, it's excellent and everyone knows it!! Evidence that 13000 students study there! And there are 280 scientists in Ariel, of which about 75 are professors. 28 study departments. There is no college that comes close to these figures.
Much success to Ariel University, which will bring much respect to Israeli research!!!!
I am happy that finally after 40 years a new university was established in Israel!!!!!
Good luck to all students at Ariel!! And also for the 700 Arabs who study there!!
Senior lecturer at Ariel
You're right.
Do you really think that such people (such as the commenters here) deserve to benefit from your knowledge and experience?
Be in a place where you earn more and do more for your home. After all, you lost a lot just to understand this fact when you came to a land that eats its inhabitants.
My heart is with you, and I wish you much success in your future.
to the disgusted lecturer,
We are all guilty, I am no less than you, but my general claims still stand, even if you continue to associate me with certain places at certain times.
I'm sorry you didn't find a place for research elsewhere, and I wish there were 10 more good and worthy universities in Israel, but not under a military regime.
And as if Dimitri Shumsky heard me:
http://www.haaretz.co.il/opinions/1.1787957
Would he also have belonged in another time and another place to the same place to which I belong?
Without referring to you personally because I do not know you nor do I wish to know you, these are the establishment that you represent in general - I have the following to say:
You have created a reality for the majority of the unprivileged people which is no easier than the reality of the Palestinians - from the lack of ability to get a roof over their heads to the lack of social mobility. And now there is nothing left for you to shed crocodile tears over the bitter fate of the Palestinians.
What else is there to say about this? Even a nation that lost a war did not receive a reward for it. I too, for example, by necessity belong to such a nation. And then not only was I left destitute, but I also found myself at the bottom of the society I moved to. Many good people were also in this situation - for example the Germans and the Japanese after two world wars. But there are those who reconcile with the shepherd of fate and get out of the situation with gritted teeth, while working hard and giving up on the Rabbinical ideas. And there are those who refuse to do so.
I did not occupy the territories, and I have no position on the matter. Moreover, I don't even vote in elections, because I have no interest in it. I am a technocrat engineer. The job at Ariel was and is the only one in Israel that is possible for me in the current situation. So please - don't drop the case on me.
and to the disgusted professor,
I will go even further: I would appreciate your opinion (I don't agree with it, but I appreciate it more) if you called for the application of Israeli law to all the occupied territories, for all the meanings involved, but the fact that you are willing to continue living under martial law tells me everything: one law for you And another law for 3 million Palestinians
to the disgusted lecturer,
But you agree that before the time when you grew up, it was not easy to be a Jew there, but it was harder, a little more, than you feel now, in Ariel, where you teach. senior.
In any case, despite the high degree you flaunt, I have not received an answer to my claims. And if anyone belonged to the places you alluded to, it was you and not me. You, who came from a place where Jews were abused and murdered, indifferent to the suffering of millions of Palestinians. I do not call them saints, by any means, but argue why a university should not be established there.
Regarding the Rebbe, as usual you do not disappoint and the level of your response deserves an award.
In your rant a lot, you missed a few things: I am not calling occupied territories, but the State of Israel, in that it contains the martial law there and not the Israeli law, and it is indeed true that, among other things, we conquered a country for us: our historical land, an occupation by force of arms, it was mostly empty to which we returned in a wave The elevations don't matter. The fact is that in 48 the world recognized us in the area and the Palestinians in Oslo, so I don't need to be more righteous than the Pope. They met, that's enough. in the territories, but one does not recognize as the territory of the State of Israel, not even the State of Israel
to "one who responds well"
Sir, why don't you tell me about the situation of Jews in the USSR, because I was both born and raised there. As an open Jew, I could have been admitted to most institutes of higher education, including the leading ones in Moscow (and indeed it was). But at the same time there were also limitations. For example, the prestigious Moscow University was closed to me. Even in the industry I could reach key positions, but almost never the top management. At the same time there were some exceptions. For example, the Chairman of the Central Bank of the USSR was an open Jew. There were even some champions and members of the party's central committee.
When I arrived in Israel as an expatriate of the USSR, I encountered a lower and more impenetrable glass ceiling than a Jew in Russia usually feels, especially today. That's why your comments also disgust me. And I also appreciate where someone like you would have belonged in another time and place.
It's just unbelievable that there are people like "the good commenter" maybe he will change his name to cool
You write that Ariel is in occupied territory:
What is occupied territory?
Your home is in Hod Hasharon or wherever it may be
Destroyed animal and smash it immediately !!!
And Ramat Aviv must be destroyed.
Sheikh-Monis in the vernacular.
The graves of the "righteous" were destroyed there by the bad Zionists for the most part.
Ramat Aviv will be destroyed immediately!!!
There is no place here beyond the line, below the line, above it or behind it - that is not occupied
in some kind of war.
The war of liberation was also an occupation.
heart'
Your analogy is not accurate. Let's assume the situation in which the government openly and proudly declares that the city will exist (with a very specific sectarian composition) and in which the provision of employment to those approaching the labor office will not be compromised, the allowances will be denied and its residents will be left destitute. How will you react to this?
I go through the arguments of the members of the establishment one by one and I find the gruel of slanders, manipulations and lies that would not have shamed Goebbels. (And I am well aware of the weight of my words). Because he invented many convincing reasons for the persecution of the Jews. And here the president of the Weizmann Institute may have already forgotten how his grandfather was confiscated in Nazi Germany, and it is already happening to confiscate someone else, this time from among his own people. And what are the arguments? Is the Mossad in Ariel political - settler? And it's not for nothing that the press tries to bring pictures from the place of the first-borns with caps and first-borns in long dresses and headdresses? Isn't it similar to the Gebalsian exercises of photographing Jews from a very specific angle? But the truth is that most of the faculty members and students at the institution are completely secular who live in Gush Dan, they are generally engaged in engineering and natural sciences and it has nothing to do with any ideology. Another argument is that the Mossad publishes 4-5 times less than the University of Haifa and Bar-Ilan. But they forget to mention that the institution also has 7 times less faculty members who are not foreign sex teachers. And who was the expert in manipulations and telling half-truths? They say that the institution is weak and the evidence is the lack of achievements in receiving research grants from "Academia". Isn't that what they say "you both killed and inherited"? And in general, why do they forget to compare the share of research grants from abroad in the institutional budget at Ariel and the universities?
In short, I feel that I have very good reasons to say the hard things and even make the terrible comparisons.
Which awl came out of the bag? I wrote my opinion on the subject from my first post. At the most, a lecturer got out of the bag and revealed his ignorance.
If you check the history of the Jews in the USSR, you will see that you are not so persecuted. Please read the far left website:
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%99%D7%94%D7%93%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A2%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%AA#.D7.9E.D7.A1.D7.A2.D7.95.D7.AA_.D7.94.D7.98.D7.99.D7.94.D7.95.D7.A8.D7.99.D7.9D_.D7.A9.D7.9C_.D7.A1.D7.98.D7.9C.D7.99.D7.9F
And after you have shed the crocodile's tears and refuted the claims of the stolen cozaz, explain to me where there is an error in my post
To the lecturer:
If I understood correctly: your situation as an academic is that you have given up on submitting applications because they are not approved anyway.
But the situation in Israel is much worse than that:
There are people who have given up going to an employment office because they won't get a job anyway.
Some people have given up on applying for an allowance because their application will not be approved anyway.
And what's worse:
Some people deserve it but don't have the strength to climb the bureaucratic mountain to get what they deserve. And they remain destitute!
And what is most serious:
The bureaucratic mountain is not there by mistake or by chance. It was built there on purpose!!
the cat is out of the bag
On the one hand, I have heard a lot about the fact that I should not submit research proposals to the "Academy" due to the institutional persecution. On the other hand, the establishment flaunts the fact that we not only don't get a name, but we don't even submit. So here - you can clearly see how the awl comes out of the sack. I ask myself the question - how long will he be able to continue in the current situation. Because my feelings are very respectable. If we say Dogari - in this system I feel that Jews are humiliated and persecuted in a more serious way than in the USSR. At least there they did not openly state that I should be boycotted.
So the situation is like this... I am a faculty member at Ariel, involved in engineering, still young, with a list of considerable academic achievements, persecuted, slandered and denied promotion in Israel. I will have no problem finding a job in one of the colleges in the US let alone industry. On the other hand, I enjoy teaching in Ariel and love the atmosphere there. But if the academic system pushes me out of Israel as decisively and resolutely as it sounds, apparently I have no choice left.
To Raphael and his alter ego, understands interest
Already in my first post I claimed that this is a first-rate moral and value issue and not a technical issue of whether there is enough money, whether the level of research presented to the committee was good and whether there should be another university in Israel. Of course, it is worthwhile, for my part, to establish 10 more universities in Israel, if there is a proper budget for this. More universities and fewer yeshivas.
I don't really care if you see these territories as occupied or not, Israeli law sees them as occupied, therefore Israeli law in general does not apply to the territories, and what does apply there is military law, and your rolling of the eyes will not pass in silence. Also, I don't really care if my opinion is the opinion of the minority and it is of course not wrong (here, the dictator in you breaks through). My opinion on the subject is moral and ethical: is it appropriate to restore an institution based on freedom: freedom of thought, freedom of speech, academic freedom, in a place where there is a large population that does not enjoy freedom, living under military rule. By the way, the number of Palestinians in the territories is about 10 times greater than the number of Israelis in the territories.
The commander in the field is the commander-in-chief, what is wrong with that?
This means that the commander of the university is the commander in chief, what is not understood in this?
This means that the commanding general can ban any person wherever he is in this territory, for his own reasons, what is not understood in this?
This means that the commanding general can prevent, if he so decides, any research, any opinion, and any idea, what is not understood in this?
Now, even if the law is changed, and the commanding general ceases to be the commander of Ariel University, still, the issue of apartheid, which you see as not serious, still exists
Is it appropriate for a university to be built on such an area, no and no.
one that responds well,
It is clear to you that I disagree with your opinion and I do not see these territories as occupied (see the entry of the Levy report).
And I support Ariel and she is in the Israeli consensus.
Your assertion that the Commander-in-Chief approves studies in Ariel is simply nonsensical and untrue!
I don't want to get into a political debate (we both know that your opinion is in the minority) that you are trying to drag us down because it is an academic institution and yes, the government stated in 2005 that it sees "national importance" in Ariel University.
If you want to debate whether the university is good for Israel or not and if the institution meets the criteria and deserves to be a university, I would be happy. Regarding the political discussion, I leave that to the politicians. An academic institution should only test according to academic criteria. And this is also what leftists, for example Shelli Yachimowitz, the leader of the left, said http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3817092,00.html Back in 2009.
Your objection is political and therefore fundamentally invalid.
And any university that will be established in Israel and resources will be allocated to it, I will be happy!! To develop Israeli research!! And strengthen the Israeli academy!!
The system filters comments with a lot of links because this is a common characteristic of spam comments. I release legitimate comments.
I will
To a savant of interest and his alter ego, Raphael
The absolute majority of your response is irrelevant, after all I agreed in advance, for the purpose of the discussion, that the quality of the research is good and I even assumed that there would be money from now until further notice for any academic institution whatsoever.
My claim, to which you have no answer, is that a university in an occupied territory, or in a military territory (this is so that we do not degenerate into a discussion while being pretentious as to whether this is an occupied territory) where the majority of the population has no civil rights and hardly any human rights, is not a moral act and sinful to the spirit of academia. An academic institution, of which he is the commander, is a horror. For the factual claim that the commander will be the commander in chief, you do not and cannot have any success. This is a fact. If you don't understand why this is terrible, it speaks for itself.
The fact that the discussion in Israel only takes place on a formal level, i.e. whether there is enough money and whether the quality of the research is good, is shameful and shameful. Another proof that we are deep in the grotesque phase of the occupation
Indeed, that department at Ben Gurion was criticized by an objective external committee, but this does not rule out the rest of the university's departments.
to one who responds well,
You are the proof that the resistance is political!! What to do, you are in a democracy and you are in the minority, an absolute majority of the people support Ariel and want a university there and you must learn to accept the decision of the majority, after all, this is democracy!!
I respect everyone's opinion, including Gideon Levi's (known for his extreme political views).
I recommend that you read comments that are also in favor as part of the discussion created here:
http://www.news1.co.il/Archive/003-D-74522-00.html
http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/1.pdf
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/386/152.html?hp=1&cat=479
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/388/830.html
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/386/942.html
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/382/161.html
http://www.news1.co.il/Archive/003-D-73911-00.html
http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/shdrog_oniversita/esti_lozato.pdf
http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/2680/2545887
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/381/735.html?hp=1&cat=479
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4248207,00.html
http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/shdrog_oniversita/makor_rishon.pdf
http://www.haaretz.co.il/opinions/1.1747357
http://www.haaretz.co.il/opinions/1.1744526
Read and maybe you will change your mind!!
Your arguments are so weak and you realize you were wrong…
After all, you wrote "the reason that some of the real MLA members did not agree to deal with the matter is that it was clear from the beginning that the decisions in favor of Ariel were political and not professional (due to the establishment of the body)".
It's so absurd, if the members of the Jerusalem Legislative Assembly themselves are dealing with the matter today and determining for Ariel, then how exactly were the decisions political?! They are actually causing the politicization of the academy by not being willing to deal with the issue solely for political reasons and not for academic reasons as an academic is expected to do.
As for the heads of the universities, they have always opposed the establishment of additional universities. The Hebrew University opposed the establishment of Tel Aviv University and both together opposed the establishment of Bar Ilan University.
Throughout history, the existing universities have always opposed another university.
Can you imagine Israel without the research of Tel Aviv University? Ben-Gurion University?
I'm not saying that they necessarily did it because of political opinions, but because they don't want another competitor and the entry of another institution into the prestigious club of universities in Israel. It is driven by a narrow but natural interest.
You bring up Tzipi Hotabli every time as if Zehava Galon did not act against the Mossad. The thing is that the majority of the Knesset government are right-wing people and so is the majority of the people, and with all due respect to the criticism (they benefited from extensive media assistance) Ariel has tremendous support among the government (the Prime Minister, the Minister of Education, the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of Science and Technology who is himself a professor and was rector of the Technion and many other ministers) and the Knesset. In all the debates, Knesset members from the entire political spectrum in Israel came to support Ariel. The student associations in universities and colleges supported during (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4250837,00.html
(and there are also academics who supported the process)http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/384/748.html
).
So beyond the criticism there is also tremendous support for the institution and support from the public. A survey by Yedioth Ahronoth stated that about 80 percent agree that it is right to recognize Ariel as a university. (http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/divur/seker.pdf
Eric, you are the proof that the resistance is political!!! What to do, you live in a democratic country and you are in the minority, the majority of the people support the settlements and Ariel is in the consensus!!!! You have to learn to accept the decision of the majority who want a university in Ariel!!
Beyond that, there is no college in Israel that matches Ariel's successes.
In 2011 alone, Mossad researchers at Ariel participated in 145 international conferences in 36 countries, where they lectured and presented their research. In 2011-2012, hundreds of joint articles were published by researchers at Ariel with leading fellow scientists in the world. Among them 44 from the USA, 12 from the UK, 6 from France and more.
In recent years, the institution in Ariel has hosted international conferences in the fields of brain research, criminology, materials development, physics and the development of new methods for academic teaching. In August of this year, the Ariel Center will host the annual world conference on materials research, and 120 scientists from 29 countries from all over the world have already registered for this conference.
The center in Ariel is an example of accepting new immigrant faculty members from the Commonwealth of Nations. This year, the center is about to receive 30 young researchers with a doctor's degree into its ranks, of which 20 are Israelis and Jews who are currently staying at leading universities in the US and Western Europe.
Dear Roy and Eric! You can continue to oppose it is legitimate but let's not forget that the decision was made and soon it will be official and there will be another research university in Israel!! So one can only wish success to the institution and that it will be successful in research that is so important to the State of Israel!
Your arguments are so weak and you realize you were wrong…
After all, you wrote "the reason that some of the real MLA members did not agree to deal with the matter is that it was clear from the beginning that the decisions in favor of Ariel were political and not professional (due to the establishment of the body)".
It's so absurd, if the members of the Jerusalem Legislative Assembly themselves are dealing with the matter today and determining for Ariel, then how exactly were the decisions political?! They are actually causing the politicization of the academy by not being willing to deal with the issue solely for political reasons and not for academic reasons as an academic is expected to do.
As for the heads of the universities, they have always opposed the establishment of additional universities. The Hebrew University opposed the establishment of Tel Aviv University and both together opposed the establishment of Bar Ilan University.
Throughout history, the existing universities have always opposed another university.
Can you imagine Israel without the research of Tel Aviv University? Ben-Gurion University?
I'm not saying that they necessarily did it because of political opinions, but because they don't want another competitor and the entry of another institution into the prestigious club of universities in Israel. It is driven by a narrow but natural interest.
You bring up Tzipi Hotabli every time as if Zehava Galon did not act against the Mossad. The thing is that the majority of the Knesset government are right-wing people and so is the majority of the people, and with all due respect to the criticism (they benefited from extensive media assistance) Ariel has tremendous support among the government (the Prime Minister, the Minister of Education, the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of Science and Technology who is himself a professor and was rector of the Technion and many other ministers) and the Knesset. In all the debates, Knesset members from the entire political spectrum in Israel came to support Ariel. The student associations in universities and colleges supported during (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4250837,00.html(and there are also academics who supported the process)http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/384/748.html).
So beyond the criticism there is also tremendous support for the institution and support from the public. A survey by Yedioth Ahronoth stated that about 80 percent agree that it is right to recognize Ariel as a university. (http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/divur/seker.pdf)
Beyond that, there is no college in Israel that matches Ariel's successes.
In 2011 alone, Mossad researchers at Ariel participated in 145 international conferences in 36 countries, where they lectured and presented their research. In 2011-2012, hundreds of joint articles were published by researchers at Ariel with leading fellow scientists in the world. Among them 44 from the USA, 12 from the UK, 6 from France and more.
In recent years, the institution in Ariel has hosted international conferences in the fields of brain research, criminology, materials development, physics and the development of new methods for academic teaching. In August of this year, the Ariel Center will host the annual world conference on materials research, and 120 scientists from 29 countries from all over the world have already registered for this conference.
The center in Ariel is an example of accepting new immigrant faculty members from the Commonwealth of Nations. This year, the center is about to receive 30 young researchers with a doctor's degree into its ranks, of which 20 are Israelis and Jews who are currently staying at leading universities in the US and Western Europe.
And Roy, you can continue to oppose, it's legitimate, but let's not forget that the decision was made and will soon be official and Israel will have another research university!! So one can only wish success to the institution and that it will be successful in research that is so important to the State of Israel!
Yes, I believe that in Ben Gurion this will be possible and if not, they do not deserve to be called a university.
I wrote that I do not believe that Ariel will allow such studies, and who knows, maybe I will be deceived. In any case, this is only part of my arguments against turning Ariel into a university, while you did not write what you think about it. I mean, you wrote but not to the point. you dodged
One who responds..
You assume that at Ariel they will not allow studies A, B, C, and then conclude that there is no academic freedom, this is the desired assumption..
To the same extent, I will argue that "if you believe that in the name of academic freedom, in the Department of Political Science at Ben Gurion, they will allow a study that examines the extent to which particularly extreme left-wing opinions harm the State of Israel - then you are innocent".
I guess most of what I will write here, has already been written and yet
The discussion about the quality of the institution is important, but let's assume that Ariel presented a good level of research.
The discussion regarding the budget that will be required for the institution and its effect on the other institutions is important, but let's assume for a moment (a puzzling assumption, but let's go with it) that the Israeli government will raise all the funds required for all the institutions.
The reason for the opposition to turning Ariel College into a university, as I recall an institution that is supposed to be trusted for research and academic freedom, lies in the fact that it stands in an occupied territory (despite the Edmond Levy report) where the Palestinians have no freedom, no civil rights and no freedom. It is in a place where Israeli law is not valid and the area is controlled by the commanding general and the IDF. It was good to write about Gideon Levi: http://www.haaretz.co.il/opinions/1.1779985.
If you don't understand that the fact that there is such a body called the Yosh MLA that is unique to Ariel, there is some kind of bias in Ariel's favor, I feel sorry for you.
If the fact that Ariel is not under Israeli law and thus, the commander-in-chief has to approve the establishment of the university does not disturb your rest, this speaks for itself.
If you think that the confirmation of a commanding general is only a technical step and there is no essential and principled element here, you have reached the bottom of the barrel.
If you believe that in the name of academic freedom, in Ariel they will allow a study examining the cost of the occupation and the settlements, you are naive.
If you believe that the commanding general will approve a study in Ariel examining the IDF's assassination policy, you are living in a movie.
If you believe that in Ariel it will be possible to conduct a study examining the feasibility of separating religion from the state, the truth is from you and beyond.
If therefore you really think that academic freedom will be preserved in Ariel, we deserve everything we get.
Certainly, as you rightly pointed out with several exclamation points, the widespread support of the political echelon will likely overshadow the opposition of the academic echelon (the Council of University Heads, the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences, and in practice - the Israeli Legislative Council) and the University of the Territories.
It is easy to accuse any opponent who does not align with the right-wing consensus of self-interest, I believe that the political identity of the supporters for some reason and the academic identity of the opponents may indicate the opposite situation. Naha, it seems I won't be able to convince anymore. In any case, if we are talking about referring links, I would recommend reading the words of the president of the Technion, Prof. Aliza Shanhar, and Baiga Shohat on the subject (http://www.themarker.com/markerweek/1.1787185). I have not yet received good answers to the problems in question (to remove the accusation of self-interest). Like what about the forgotten Galilee University, by the way.
Your arguments are so weak and you realize you were wrong…
After all, you wrote "the reason that some of the real MLA members did not agree to deal with the matter is that it was clear from the beginning that the decisions in favor of Ariel were political and not professional (due to the establishment of the body)".
It's so absurd, if the members of the Jerusalem Legislative Assembly themselves are dealing with the matter today and determining for Ariel, then how exactly were the decisions political?! They are actually causing the politicization of the academy by not being willing to deal with the issue solely for political reasons and not for academic reasons as an academic is expected to do.
As for the heads of the universities, they have always opposed the establishment of additional universities. The Hebrew University opposed the establishment of Tel Aviv University and both together opposed the establishment of Bar Ilan University.
Throughout history, the existing universities have always opposed another university.
Can you imagine Israel without the research of Tel Aviv University? Ben-Gurion University?
I'm not saying that they necessarily did it because of political opinions, but because they don't want another competitor and the entry of another institution into the prestigious club of universities in Israel. It is driven by a narrow but natural interest.
You bring up Tzipi Hotabli every time as if Zehava Galon did not act against the Mossad. The thing is that the majority of the Knesset government are right-wing people and so is the majority of the people, and with all due respect to the criticism (they benefited from extensive media assistance) Ariel has tremendous support among the government (the Prime Minister, the Minister of Education, the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of Science and Technology who is himself a professor and was rector of the Technion and many other ministers) and the Knesset. In all the debates, Knesset members from the entire political spectrum in Israel came to support Ariel. The student associations in universities and colleges supported during (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4250837,00.html(and there are also academics who supported the process)http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/384/748.html).
So beyond the criticism there is also tremendous support for the institution and support from the public. A survey by Yedioth Ahronoth stated that about 80 percent agree that it is right to recognize Ariel as a university. (http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/divur/seker.pdf)
Beyond that, there is no college in Israel that matches Ariel's successes.
In 2011 alone, Mossad researchers at Ariel participated in 145 international conferences in 36 countries, where they lectured and presented their research. In 2011-2012, hundreds of joint articles were published by researchers at Ariel with leading fellow scientists in the world. Among them 44 from the USA, 12 from the UK, 6 from France and more.
In recent years, the institution in Ariel has hosted international conferences in the fields of brain research, criminology, materials development, physics and the development of new methods for academic teaching. In August of this year, the Ariel Center will host the annual world conference on materials research, and 120 scientists from 29 countries from all over the world have already registered for this conference.
The center in Ariel is an example of accepting new immigrant faculty members from the Commonwealth of Nations. This year, the center is about to receive 30 young researchers with a doctor's degree into its ranks, of which 20 are Israelis and Jews who are currently staying at leading universities in the US and Western Europe.
And Roy, you can continue to oppose, it's legitimate, but let's not forget that the decision was made and will soon be official and Israel will have another research university!! So one can only wish success to the institution and that it will be successful in research that is so important to the State of Israel!
Sorry for the inaccuracy: the Yosh MLA was established not to turn Ariel into a university, but to approve two of its study tracks after the regular MLA did not agree. Only four institutions are under the authority of the Yosh Legislative Council, and with all due respect, it is quite clear that Orot, Emunah and Herzog Colleges are not at the top of its agenda. The reasons that some of the real MLA members did not agree to deal with the matter is that it was clear from the beginning that the decisions in favor of Ariel were political and not professional (due to the establishment of the body), and therefore they had to bring in the only people who would agree to deal with the matter.
It is not possible that you are not aware of the public criticism, especially from the academics, to the heads of the universities and the like, of the Minister of Education and his decisions. It is not possible for any criticism from academics to be dismissed with the argument 'they are leftists'. Come on, you stay on the side of Tzipi Hotobli, and I'll stay on the side of the existing universities.
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Wow, some incorrect things you have written.
1. You probably understood that Ariel was offered money and you misunderstood the reading.
2. I have already explained that the government is the only party that can determine if and where another university will be established, but the institution must meet the academic criteria of the MLA.
In a democratic country it is the elected government that decides if there is a national need to establish a hospital, university or airport, and not a planning committee.
You are welcome to check in all democratic countries in the world!!
3. The inspection committee was not established to qualify Ariel for the university, but to check whether the institution meets the academic criteria required to become a university and the center met them and even beyond that.
4. The Yosh Legislative Council was established in 1992 to open up the possibility of obtaining permits to operate study tracks in institutions beyond the Green Line.
In other words, it is not possible that the Yosh College was established to qualify Ariel for university because the government's decision to do so was only made in 2005 13 after its establishment.
5. The members of the Yosh Legislative Assembly are indeed appointed by the commanding general because the IDF is the sovereign in the territories, but let's not forget that these are professors who are members of the Jerusalem Legislative Assembly or were previously members of the Jerusalem Legislative Assembly. And yes, there is rotation. The members change over the course of a few years, just like the Jerusalem MLA. And it was actually supposed to be the same people as the Yosh MLA members, but what to do some members of the Jerusalem MLA were not willing to do so for political reasons.
6. No one said that the government has the last word. On the contrary, the government decides to work for another university, but the decision ultimately rests with the authorities in charge of the issue, who check whether the institution is worthy and whether there is a budget for it (and there was both).
7. The opposition of OT is in itself puzzling, because their recommendation was accepted despite the report which unanimously stated that Ariel deserves to be a university. And let's not forget that the Lottery only recommends and in the past decisions were made in the Leg against the Lottery (opening of law studies in Safed and Sapir).
8. I did not hear that the Jerusalem MLA objected to the recognition of Ariel, nor did it issue any such announcement. The Jerusalem Legislative Assembly objected a few years ago, which was chaired by the Minister of Education with left-wing views who was unwilling to discuss the issue and not for academic reasons.
So please try to be accurate!!
The problem is not the retrospective test results. If you look at the whole business synchronously then there is no problem, seemingly everything is fine. The problem is that if you look at the reason why all the tests in question were conducted in the first place, then it becomes clear that the decision to turn Ariel into a university did not stem from the inspection committees (at all levels, including the governmental one), but that the inspection committees were established to turn Ariel into a university.
The General Assembly of Yosh is not an independent body that happens to deal with what is happening in territories where Israeli law does not fully apply. The Yosh MLA is a body that was established specifically to qualify Ariel as a university, after the MLA refused to do so. Its members were chosen accordingly by the commanding general, and not through arbitrary academic rotation. In light of the alienation of the current government (and actually several previous governments) from the higher education system in general, a sad matter that is surely familiar to some of the readers of this site, it would be naive to think that the ideological fervor with regard to Ariel (ignoring, as mentioned, the transformation of the Galilee colleges into a university) stems from a sincere desire for improvement The academic situation of the State of Israel.
Beyond that, the reasoning according to which the last word is reserved for the government in every decision is not a moral justification but rather a description of an unfortunate situation. I don't think anyone here on the right or the left would disagree with the statement that the elected officials recently are breaking new records of shamelessness, and it is a shame if these are the higher courts we are supposed to depend on in order to justify the process of establishing a university in Israel (if it were not contrary to the opinion of "T" and the real MLAG).
Roy read again. It's true that they wanted to add a new layer, but that still doesn't mean they didn't offer Ariel a bigger budget. They proposed increasing the budget by NIS 330 million over four years, according to the following distribution: NIS 30 million in the first year, NIS 60 million in the second year, NIS 100 million in the third year, and NIS 130 million in the fourth year.
So how can you argue that a bigger budget was not proposed???
I will make some order for you. The government is the only factor that can determine if and where another university will be established, but the institution must meet the academic criteria of the MLA.
In a democratic country it is the elected government that decides if there is a national need to establish a hospital, university or airport, and not a planning committee.
After the government decided in 2005, an academic process began to check whether the institution met the criteria and indeed the institution met all the criteria!! The HOT staff, who were full partners in the described process and even wrote before them the interim report of the committee of six professors from 2006, received in February 2012 the positive summary report of the committee. Despite this, Prof. Trachtenberg and his team suggested to the representatives of the center in Ariel, to receive additional funds and conditions, provided that they give up their recognition as a university. These proposals were of course rejected.
An academic should work solely according to considerations of academic matters and should not involve his political opinions in the government's decisions, leaving that to the politicians.
Ariel met the academic conditions according to the report that examined it over the course of 7 years, and there is a budget supplement that will not harm the other universities (the Minister of Finance made a commitment). So congratulations on another university in Israel!
In the end, the one who decided on turning Ariel into a university is the Yosh MP, which is actually professors who are members of the Jerusalem MP or were previously members of the Jerusalem MP. And more by a majority of 11 against 2 against.
The claim that a larger budget was proposed is a misunderstanding. The HOT proposed to establish a layer of academic centers, that is - Ariel is examined on the same level with the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, with the College of Management, with Rupin College, Tel-Hai, etc. The budget will be taken from the Ministry of Finance, and will be distributed among the institutions according to their level - of course, in such a case, Ariel College will object. Please go to the great link there and read for yourself.
The opposition is not political, the opposition is opposition to political interventions in the higher education system in Israel. It is unthinkable that a university would be established without an examination of the entire higher education system, while bypassing the OT and contrary to his opinion! Well, the main thing is that Tzipi Hotobli is in favor (and by the way, why not the Interdisciplinary Center? Or the forgotten University of the Galilee? Why not a personal MLA for every institution that is interested in it? If you give up a centralized body with authority for all of Israel, then it's all the way)
Skeptical about the budget you raise is so wrong!!
Read: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4251674,00.html
Ariel was offered financial support of about NIS 320 million for a period of four years!!!! Just so you won't be recognized as a university!!
And that's without any addition to the budget for higher education in Israel, that is, from the existing budget!!! So there is no budget problem and certainly the Minister of Finance commits to a budget increase starting next year in a gradual process until the entire cost of upgrading Ariel to a university is covered!!
Just so you know, the amount that Ariel is demanding is a total of 130 million shekels out of the total annual budget of 7,700,000,000 NIS!!
That is: the total of the addition: 1.7% of the budget of OT
And Ariel also committed to receiving only NIS 30 million next year - that is, 0.4% of the OT budget.
I mean, the budget argument you put forward is simply ridiculous!!!
my father
Another possibility is: to educate people like 'skeptic' and his ilk not to write nonsense... but this will already cost millions and will require reforms in the country.. ))
Sometimes a taboo word in a certain context is part of a legitimate word. As for the issue of the blockages. The other choice is to have someone full time 24 hours a day. not practical.
There is a strange delay in my message from 07:29 on July 24. Why block messages because of "taboo words" or something like that, really childish.
(Besides: I was looking for a word in my response that is suspected to be a taboo word and I didn't find it, apparently we treated it as an innocent word and turned it into a taboo word.)
Turning Ariel College into a university is a financial blow to the existing universities, since the budgets for Ariel will be taken from the government budgets that are given to the academy today. Someone who thinks that the government budget for the academy will be increased, due to the addition of another academic institution, does not understand how state budgets work.
The old academy in Israel has been in a state of decline for years, except for small parts of it that do not rely on government budgets. Almost no new faculty are hired, due to the lack of budgets, the existing faculty is getting older. With aging, productivity decreases and what's worse is that there is no going beyond research fields created in the last twenty years. New and fruitful researchers do not return to Israel from their post-doctorate, because there are no institutions that will take them in due to a lack of budget, they remain abroad and are probably lost to the State of Israel.
Most of the money that will be given to Ariel will go to subsidize tuition fees for students (a large part of whom are Arabs from the Triangle area), and to subsidize occasional teachers from abroad (they will not find budgets to increase the permanent research staff, because this is the situation that exists today in the entire academy).
There is no need for the state to subsidize second-rate students who were not accepted to universities because of only mediocre qualifications. These students are supposed to study only in colleges.
I am amazed at Professor Uman, the expert in game theory, for giving his hand to the "diffusion of power" which is a completely wrong procedure according to game theory. (According to all the known logistic theories, when the economic resources are limited they *must* not be distributed among weak and small centers but should be concentrated only in a few centers of excellence).
Your words are completely senseless demagoguery.
You determine:
The National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences - they must be right. There is no need to check whether their reasoning makes sense or whether they have political interests and views, because we have already established that they are right anyway.
Six professors were appointed in a special way, and they are certainly politically infected. There is no need to check if this is true or if their reasoning makes sense, because it is already clear in advance that appointments are political.
In short, you have no chance of proving me wrong, because I assumed in advance that there is no question here at all.
Blind faith in its embodiment.
Friends.
The MLA opposes. The HOT opposes. The National Academy of Sciences opposes.
Who is in favor? The Minister of Education, the Minister of Finance, and six professors who were specially appointed by a body created specifically to take care of the college's affairs, definitely and definitely based on their political views (you don't have to go far to read about the religious-right (economic and political) doctrine of Prof. Oman, brilliant in his field however it may be).
There is no question here at all, their research in relation to the college will impress as much as they will.
The decision to check the possibility of becoming a political university, the supporters are political, while all the academic authorities are against. If the decision had not been political, the college would not have become a university, and all the apparently objective reasons do not change like the skin of garlic from the moment all the bodies entrusted with higher education in Israel failed the test.
to my father,
You wrote: "I appreciate that whoever claims that this is a political decision is too simplistic."
What is the assessment based on? You are very naive about this. You probably don't know enough about the political head of the "elites".
Let's also not forget that the last university was established about 40 years ago and since then the population of Israel has doubled 2.5 times.
I am sure that no university at the time it was recognized as a university in Israel was at the research and academic level of Ariel and was examined by a committee for 7 years that determined that it met all the academic criteria required to become a university and it must have been smaller.
Father, as long as the government comes and says it is ready to add a budget for higher education and research, we should welcome it. Don't forget that it was published that HOT offered Ariel the entire budget without even an addition from the Ministry of Finance just so that it would not seek recognition as a university. (Therefore the budgetary reason is completely invalid).
Besides, the budgets for universities for research are given on the basis of research excellence and in fact the universities compete for that, therefore there is no problem that there will be another competitor.
Ariel also has unique studies that no university in Israel has invested in these fields.
And also unlike the other universities that "abandoned" the Russian world and science there.
Ariel comes and collaborates with more than 50 universities in the world and many of them are universities from the Commonwealth of Nations (the list also includes institutions from the USA, France, Germany, Argentina and many other countries) for example: the University of Moscow, the State University of Tbilisi and more and even the Russian Silicon Valley chose from all the institutions For higher education in Israel specifically in Ariel to establish a Skolokovo-Israel investment center.
And already today they are budgeting for research in the amount of one million euros in Ariel (you can see in the full report). And Ariel is even the official representative of the National Academy of Sciences in collaboration with the Russian Academy of Sciences (a collaboration that Ariel created).
And also the matter that the HOT was in fact a partner and knew for 7 years since the government's decision in 2005 to establish a university in Ariel and did not recommend anything in connection with it, also knowing that in July 2012 a decision would be made regarding Ariel, he came and said at the last minute to keep Ariel as the "university center" and postpone the decision until May So that they can check the matter from budget and planning aspects.
As if they didn't have 7 years to look into the matter.
Therefore, I fully support making Ariel a university!!
I didn't get into the political debate and went there to see with my own eyes, I got the impression that there are quality studies there, and I don't know of any college that comes close to that. However, I believe that anyone who claims that this is a political decision is too simplistic. There is a complex question here that needs to be decided. I don't think such an investment will survive for long, the last decade has taught us that governments don't like an educated people and they don't care about managing a poor people, the main thing is not to have too many smart people.
I don't understand how exactly the National Academy of Sciences is related to the matter of recognizing Ariel as a university?? And more are going against the recognition instead of being happy that an additional budget will enter the higher education system and research.
And I didn't expect more from you either, you are all professors from the universities and you don't want them to join this "prestigious club".
But what to do, there is a college in Israel that was inspected by the authorized bodies and determined that Ariel meets all the criteria required to become a university. And this was established by renowned professors.
And I quote from the report: "The committee therefore determines that the goals set for the university center by the General Assembly of the Youth for the period of temporary recognition were fully achieved and even beyond that"
Beyond that, even in the past, decisions were made contrary to the OT, this is exactly part of the matter of having an advisory body (which serves the universities) and not beyond that. So enough with the bullshit.
And today Ariel receives a budget from the state that is zero compared to the budget of the other universities and it still conducts research that meets the university standard.
So please, the National Academy of Sciences should deal with things related to it and not with the decisions of the MLA.
Gentlemen, even the science website should occasionally pay a ransom to the left Bushviks.
So let him do it and move on.
What about Bar Ilan University, how did it become a university?
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Definately not . I have avoided occupation until today in order to make room only for science, but still you cannot ignore a body like the National Academy of Sciences, it is not one or another committee, it is a very respectable body.
I did not express any political opinion here. Opponents have an argument that has nothing to do with politics. If you read the archive, you will see that I had no problem uploading scientific materials of the Ariel University Center that met the criteria.
The scientist, with all due respect, and there is respect, you pushed your nose deep into a subject that is not your concern, this is a political subject, since the opposing opinions were also infected, if not polluted and stinking, by political opinions. In any case, it is not the place of such a site to deal with such matters. In fact, your preoccupation with the subject is so irrelevant and unrelated to your normal activities, that all that is left is to draw the conclusion that you yourself came out with this article for political reasons and not at all!
In the old days, people with big brains and small budgets changed the face of science.
Nowadays:
Huge budgets are diverted in directions that the government likes.
The public must monitor the budget!
Covetousness of budget funds and anti-Zionist politics, wrapped in demagogic claims that are irrelevant.
please:
http://www.nrg.co.il/app/index.php?do=blog&encr_id=79974780b5e0d394fddbd1a00f4f21d3
Sorry? Not the quantity and quality of research will determine the fate of the institution in question, but political courts? It is absolutely true - the quantity and quality of the research does not justify turning the college into a university (as determined by the academic bodies entrusted with such decisions, and certainly in light of the weighting of the requirements - if in a country with seven dry universities there is also a college with beautiful achievements for a college but which do not come close to those of a real university there is no The justice to become such. If there were no universities in Israel there would certainly be something to talk about), while the political ranks decided against interests and out of short-term electoral considerations to forcefully transform the college into a university.
There is no other way to present it, the Minister of Education and the Minister of Finance decided in favor, and the ranks that were entrusted to decide on her academic level in relation to the requirement decided against it. No matter how impressive the presentation is to the critics (as mentioned, they worked on it for five years, a considerable amount of time for such a purpose), its transformation into a university will be due to political motives and nothing else.
A very irrelevant response. After all, you represent the old universities.
After all, Ariel met all the criteria and a committee of six professors - a Nobel laureate, three Israel laureates, a Wolf laureate and an AMT laureate unanimously determined that Ariel deserves to be a university.
You can see the full report here:
http://www.ariel.ac.il/images/stories/site/management/PublicRelations/divur/_.pdf
And there is no budgetary argument because the Minister of Finance has committed to a budgetary increase and thus no university will be harmed.
And there is also a government decision from 2005 to establish two more universities in Israel (in Ariel and Galilee).
Therefore, there is no obstacle to supporting the transformation of Ariel into a university and it is to be congratulated that Israel has another research university.
Beyond that, it's excellent and everyone knows it!! Evidence that 13000 students study there! And there are 280 scientists in Ariel, of which about 75 are professors. 28 study departments. There is no college that comes close to these figures.