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One planet - two suns, and it's not Tatooine

Like the fictional planet from the Star Wars series, Kepler 34b orbits both suns at the same time. There are very few environments more extreme than a binary star system in which planets can form, yet a few have been discovered

Artist's illustration of Kepler 34b orbiting two stars. (David A. Aguilar (CfA)

Artist's illustration of Kepler 34b orbiting two stars. (David A. Aguilar (CfA)

Binary systems or double stars can pose a danger to planets due to their gravitational pull that can easily tear a planet apart, so how come some planets were discovered in these Tatooine-like environments anyway?

Researchers at the University of Bristol in the UK have shown that most planets form away from the central stars in their system and then migrate inward. According to the researchers, this also happened in the Kepler 34b system and other planetary systems outside the solar system.

Like the fictional planet from the Star Wars series, Kepler 34b orbits both suns at the same time. There are very few environments more extreme than a binary star system in which planets can form. Gravitational pressure on the building blocks of the planets can lead to destructive collisions that erode the material into small pieces and it is very difficult for a planet to form under these conditions.

In a study published this week in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, Dr. Zoe Leinhart and her colleagues from the University of Bristol's School of Physics write, the scientists performed computer simulations of the first stages of planet formation around binary star systems using models that calculated the effect of gravity and physical collisions on and within a million Planetary building blocks. They found that most of these planets must have formed away from the center of the binary system and then migrated to their current location.

Dr. Leinhart explains: "The simulations showed that the disc surrounding the suns in a binary system is a hostile environment even for large planets. When we took into account the distribution of collisions as well as the physical growth rate of planets, we found that Kepler 34b had to struggle hard to grow to where we find O today.
Based on these conclusions for Kepler 34b, it is likely that the bisolar planets have migrated a great distance from their place of formation, with one exception Kepler-47 (AB)c being farther from its two suns than any other bisolar planet.

Stephen Lines, lead researcher on the paper: “Planets orbiting two suns have captured the imagination of science fiction writers and filmmakers. Our research has shown how impressive these planets are. An in-depth study of how they formed will help future spacecraft search for Earth-like planets orbiting binary star systems."

 

For information on the University of Bristol website

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39 תגובות

  1. The lovely life and miracles, after seeing the movement even backwards in time, you can recognize it in other things, that's what's beautiful here, it comes in other dimensions, comes in statistics and many other ingredients that will be healthy for me

  2. Water blowing
    Indeed you blow, blow and blow. Do you still have air left in your lungs? If you don't want to be a hoax and italola, let go of your endless repetitions. You are stuck in a loop without being able to get out of it. My impression is that you live inside a Mobius ring.

  3. Dear Nissim, can I accept a "mature" attitude from you only due to the fact that there are probably people who see the future, give testimonies, and you live the reality they choose to try to lead to

  4. H. Z.,
    Joel Warren wrote in 1870 that a submarine named "Nautilus" would pass under the North Pole. He wrote in 1865 that a man would be sent to the moon from Florida, USA. Both of these things did happen…. Amazing, isn't it? 🙂

    Is this also a prophecy in your eyes? 🙂

  5. miracles,
    Even if the source is not a source,
    but an invention of Remi shekels,
    The fact that it is about subjects that at the time of writing the book were "impossible",
    It means preachy…

    What is there to believe "in the original"?

    I'm sorry that instead of trying to verify or deny the source,
    People here mess with me...

    I will not continue to comment, if no new information is provided...

  6. miracles,

    I lived happily if from the many commenters and readers here,
    There were those who would say that they tried to find the source of the quote from 2000 years ago.
    No one tried, because no one is really looking for the truth...

    All that interests the readers here is to read about unfounded "scientific" theories..

    Are you kidding me? beeping at them…
    I laugh at their blindness, because they are dangerous...

    Besides the defamation, is there anyone who would like to add to the quote itself, which I brought here?

  7. Hezi
    There may be some who don't want to see, but there are some who do want to see and they ask questions and you continue to rely on one source. If you want to identify the source, ask someone who knows the Talmud about its sources and with his help you will find the source. Maybe on that occasion you will learn Aramaic.

  8. miracles,
    There are two types of blind people:

    some can't see,
    And some don't want to see...

  9. Miracles,
    I brought my original,
    which is a book called "Solving the Elm Riddle".
    As I have written more than once,
    I couldn't find the original from 2000 years ago,
    which the book cites…

    It seems to me that everything the writers want here,
    It hit me…
    They have no interest in finding out the truth...

    Is this science?

  10. Miracles,
    I brought my original,
    which is a book called "Solving the Elm Riddle".
    As I have written more than once,
    I couldn't find the original from 2000 years ago,
    which the book cites…

    It seems to me that everything the writers want here,
    It hit me…
    They have no interest in finding out the truth...

    Is this science?

  11. Miracles,
    I brought my original,
    which is a book called "Solving the Elm Riddle".
    As I have written more than once,
    I couldn't find the original from 2000 years ago,
    which the book cites…

    It seems to me that everything the writers want here,
    It hit me…
    They have no interest in finding out the truth...

    Is this science?

  12. Hesi, who are trying to block him...
    You didn't bring any source... You heard from someone who heard from someone who thought they heard from someone who happened, a story from DVB that they saw in a comic shop……

  13. To all commenters…

    I wonder about your brain troubles...

    I bring an astonishing quote,
    From a book that quotes Jewish records from Lafpani for 2000 years.

    Instead of continuing to explore this amazing source,
    All you do is attack me...

    This is what is called "killing the messenger"...

  14. Hezi,
    It turns out that these aliens block you on the site, because you expose them!
    My father - if it wasn't you who tried to block him - this is proof that there are aliens!

  15. Hezi
    In your words you quote a quote that says "Another planet that was mentioned: whose inhabitants are in a hurry to forget. While they are doing the work, they forget why and why they are doing the work". It sounds patently far-fetched. An entire public soon forgets what it did. It is simply impossible. For example, what does it resemble? Describe to you a situation in which all residents of Tel Aviv have Alzheimer's disease. Tell yourself that there is no logic in this.

  16. Miracles, and the other commenters…

    A- Not only do I not claim that everything written in the sources is not necessarily true,
    I claim that part of what is written in the sources is necessarily not true.
    What I bring from 2000 years ago,
    It is an amazing and unbelievable story.
    which cannot possibly be "invented".
    You cannot dismiss the Bible as a historical source,
    Just because there are also things in it that are not true...

    B. I don't rely on gambling shekels,
    But about the quote he brought.
    By the way, has anyone else read the book "Solving the Riddle of the Gods"?

    C- Among the plants mentioned in the quote,
    A planet whose inhabitants speak every language...
    Perhaps Rabbi Yossi encountered a resident of that planet...

    D- Another planet that was mentioned: that its inhabitants are quick to forget.
    "While they are doing the job, they forget why and why they are doing the job."

    What amazes me about this text,
    that he says things that 2000 years ago were imaginary and are now considered real.

    Regarding the shekel loans: I am relying on a text that he quoted,
    And which even if it is not a quote but his invention,
    It would be considered amazing, if we talk about the time it was written 30 years ago.

  17. flint
    I don't think models are used as proof of theory. Models are a wonderful tool to get insights, test assumptions, and make predictions to confirm the theory.

  18. In my opinion, we make a mistake when we rely on computer models as evidence or scientific proof. It is enough to change a parameter or two in the model and a completely different result is obtained. Every day new things are discovered about the world, so it is very possible to conclude that we do not have all the parameters, and if we build a model based on only some of the parameters it will not represent reality.

  19. Hesi, who are trying to block him...
    You are not saying that everything written is true. great. If so - you cannot bring these sources as proof of anything.

  20. Hezi

    Still, assuming that the quote you bring up raises a fundamental question. The same number tells about astronomical information that he is not supposed to know. Doesn't this make you wonder? The same Rabbi Yossi, in what language did he speak with the outsider, Hebrew, Aramaic, alien and perhaps Yiddish.

  21. miracles,

    I am not here to state that everything written in the sources is true...

    Haim,
    I'm not here to prove anything...

    incidentally,
    The strange and interesting thing about this text,
    that he is talking not only about the existence of a planet with two suns,
    but also the existence of intelligent life on this planet.

    as mentioned,
    It is about seven more planets there,
    which are inhabited by intelligent beings.

    One of them: "dark"... until recently they thought that such a thing was impossible...

    One of them: "Big animals walk in it".

    One of them: "Its inhabitants are not allowed to eat what animals eat".

    As I wrote, I could not find the source, probably in Aramaic.

  22. Hezi
    As long as you rely on one source your argument is problematic. In order for your argument to be valid you must bring additional sources. For that you must dig into the writings of historians from ancient times and start reading mythologies of other peoples and from all over the world. My impression is that these questions are not familiar to you. An engineering background can contribute.

  23. Hezi
    Why don't you point out that for every "true" thing in the sources there are 100 wrong things (without quotation marks)?
    It begins in Genesis, chapter XNUMX, verse XNUMX... And from there it continues.

  24. Avi,

    You didn't read what I wrote correctly...

    This is not an "invention" of the writer.

    This is a quote from Jewish sources from 2000 years ago....

  25. Avi,

    You made me laugh…

    They "leaked" the name of the planet, what is it? Anyone can give a name…
    It is not about a "writer" but about bringing a fact that was previously unknown to "science".

  26. So if that's the case, the writer is much better than him - Arthur C. Clark had such information and Steven Spielberg even leaked the name of the planet - Tatooine

  27. Pine,

    My argument was in reference to the publication time of the book.

    At that time, none of the "scientists" imagined that he would give such a thing...

    What it means ? I claim that there is external information here...

  28. Hezi,
    Binary solar systems are a very, very common phenomenon in the universe and in our galaxy in particular. And since even in solar systems with more extreme conditions planets have been discovered, it is clear that there are many binary solar systems with a planet.
    The article in question only explains how one such discovered planet was created with the help of a simulation.

    And it is certain that there is not only "one world" that is characterized by two suns. And once a situation can arise where a planet exists in a binary system, all that remains is to find the "golden zone" where there is the greatest chance of finding life.

    Of course, this region will be narrower compared to a system with one sun, not to mention that there are fewer planets that are at such a distance since the conditions for their creation are more complicated. But in an almost infinite universe there are such worlds.

    Oh - and most importantly - legends of "shekels" are not worth a penny. The sources also said that a rabbit rummages…

  29. The name of Rami Shekelim's book that was mentioned:
    "Solving the Riddle of the Gods"

  30. many years ago,
    I came across Dr. Rami Shekalim's book.
    The book was written more than thirty years ago.
    The book quotes from Jewish sources (Talmud?)
    The book tells about Rabbi Yossi, who encountered a man from another world,
    And the person tells him that there are 7 other worlds in the universe,
    When every world has a uniqueness that differs from the situation on Earth.
    One of them is characterized by a world with two suns...

    This was before astronomers even raised the possibility of such a phenomenon...

    incidentally,
    I could not find this source in the sources…

  31. many years ago,
    I came across Dr. Rami Shekalim's book.
    The book was written more than thirty years ago.
    The book quotes from Jewish sources (Talmud?)
    The book tells about Rabbi Yossi, who encountered a man from another world,
    And the person tells him that there are 7 other worlds in the universe,
    When every world has a uniqueness that differs from the situation on Earth.
    One of them is characterized by a world with two suns...

    This was before astronomers even raised the possibility of such a phenomenon...

    incidentally,
    I could not find this source in the sources…

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