This is an explosion that occurred approximately 13 billion light-years away, and therefore originated in the early universe * The most distant gamma-ray burst so far was 190 million light-years away from us
An international team of astronomers has found the most distant gamma-ray burst ever recorded by NASA's Swift satellite. The dead star collapsed when the universe was only 630 million years old, five percent of its current age.
"Swift was built to capture these distant explosions," says lead scientist on the mission, Neil Gehrels of NASA Headquarters. "The unimaginable distance of the explosion exceeded our greatest expectations - it was definitely an explosion from the past."
Last Thursday, at 3:55 a.m., Swift recorded a 10-second gamma ray burst of average brightness. Immediately he turned on his axis and focused the ultraviolet optical telescope to locate the location of the explosion. Swift saw X-rays fading but not in visible light.
"The explosion was probably caused by a massive star," says Derek Fox of the University of Pennsylvania. "We predict the death of a star - and most likely the birth of a black hole - in one of the earliest generations of stars."
Gamma ray bursts are among the most violent events in the universe. They occur when a star exhausts its supply of nuclear fuel and collapses in on itself. It then explodes and can eventually become a black hole or a neutron star. During the explosion, sometimes huge jets of gas are ejected into space. They hit the dust surrounding the star and heat it, producing rays in a variety of wavelengths.
"The non-existence of visible light can indicate that the object is very distant", explains Ido Berger from Harvard University, and one of the team members. After a certain distance, the expansion of the universe shifts the optical emissions to longer, redder wavelengths. "If you look far enough into the universe, you won't be able to see visible light emitted by any object," he notes.
Within three hours of the explosion, the United Kingdom's infrared telescope pointed to the coordinates noted by Swift. "The light that comes after the explosion provides us with the most information about the exploding star and its environment," says Niall Tanbir from the University of Leicester in the UK. "But since such light fades very quickly, we have to locate them quickly," he says.
From the Galileo telescope in the Canary Islands, and from the large array of telescopes in Chile, it was reported that the redshift was between 7.6 and 8.2. This means that the explosion occurred 13.035 billion light-years from here, making it the most distant supernova explosion ever recorded by telescopes.
The previous record held the exploding star GRB-090423 190 million light years closer to us than the current discovery.
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Entres, better late than never. thanks for the correction. I will of course correct in the article itself, that it is only an addition of 190 million light years and not a tidal jump.
This conversation has gone through a lot of events from being scientific and matter-of-fact. I would be happy if I could answer in relation to the factual part at the beginning. Some things that might have prevented a lot of childish fights later:
1) Error in translation: the original NASA news (in English) shows that the previous record of such a distant supernova is 190 million years closer (!!) than the current record of 13 billion. There was no jump of 12.8 billion years in one discovery.
2) The whole matter of the expansion of the universe at a speed greater than the speed of light and the escape of objects from our ability to see, and how the event can be seen from 13 billion years ago:
The event remains in the same place it was created. Which means, that the most distant event we can ever see (which is impossible due to the different signals of the universe at the time) is from the moment of its formation (theoretically 15 billion years ago).
The fact that the same point (so to speak, of course) where the explosion happened continued to move away from us to a distance that we will never be able to see - this is true! In the beginning the universe did indeed move at the speed of light or close to it, but it slowed down over the years as the masses increased and the energy decreased. The events we see in the sky are where they used to be!
For example, if we see a star a hundred light years away from us moving, for example only from north to south relative to us, it is now a hundred years away at twice its speed to the south. We see him where he was.
This is how we saw an explosion from 13 billion years ago at the point where it was then.
Eliran:
Speak for yourself.
Maybe you have a hard time using your brain, but normal people actually do it very easily.
That's why they also reach conclusions that are much more logical than yours.
Tomer:
I have no theory about the speed of light changing over time.
Ori:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS#Relativity
Ori
Regarding the light, read here http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8
I think Michael has a theory that the speed of light changes with time.
Because gravity is a result of the warping of space-time, the further you are from the planet the faster time will pass.
Not because of the speed.
If you want an extension just say.
It is true that all space exploration is amazing until it is not captured in our brains that we hardly use.
the space The universe. The perception of time. God. It's not amazing!!!!!!!!!
So all the "Darwin" bunch and the evolution that was created from unfounded hypotheses that change every day according to "new findings" have to believe that we "enlightened man" came from the monkey {lol}
And the world lives for billions of years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"He was he was and he will be"
There is a divine power responsible here
And this is the answer to what the researchers have not provided so far
The laws of science are correct and exist
And I no longer have the strength to write because I just woke up
Not every answer from any researcher is correct
Grow a company head
{It's not personal}
Issue for those interested:
Is it possible that light changes its speed?
Does anyone know of tests conducted to detect different speeds of light?
How do you measure the speed of light?
Maybe what we call 'time' is actually a different speed of light affected by gravitational forces and continuous accelerations?
And one more thing, it was written here in the past that the GPS satellites 'live' in a time different from Earth's time (if I understand correctly, because of the speed at which they fly. Can someone expand on the subject?
Thanks!
Lanaam, Lanaam: 'advocates' on the site are probably naams and act very wisely not to get into unnecessary embarrassments.
*
Anyway, may everyone have a happy and innocent Shavuot.
*
And Tomer: Thank you very much, for your courage and your soft and abundant honesty and that you will never lose your faith in eternal goodness, in humanity and in the value of the good spirit of life.
Hugin,
I will answer you on three levels:
on a personal level
Of course I have nothing against you. The level of responses to the science site is certainly not a reason for personal resentment
On the level of language:
You use profanity, curses, various nicknames - animals and creeps, and worst of all: you call other people who write on the site "Nazi" and "Hitler" and all this because they disagree with your opinion.
Then you apologize, and think that's the end of the matter.
I want to remind you: you are neither 14 nor 16. At your age you should understand better, that there are things that mature and sane people just don't do!
No one but you descends to the low level of cursing and swearing - the matter depends solely on your will and ability to self-control. Using the low and dirty language only hurts you, and it's time you realized that.
Response level:
I don't have a nice and pleasant way to tell you this: your comments are not suitable for the level of the site or the spirit of the site.
You write things that no one understands, use words that it is clear to everyone that you do not understand their meaning, and create refined gibberish at night. It's a shame that you insist on flooding the site with nonsense - it's simply not the right site.
Noam
Hugin brought up, and the whole point of this rather long response is that it doesn't matter.
Michael
I know you can't make such an adult stereotype = all adults are equally serious.
I would also react like this to a five-year-old child (if he really tries to understand the topic in question and his questions have any connection to the topic), a teenager between 16 or a 120-year-old adult.
Hugin:
What exactly did you (***you***) try to say in response 96?
Tomer didn't ask you anything except the missing mediator of your responses - just like we all do.
If anything - it was he who tried to answer your questions and not the other way around (and this because he mistakenly thought you were really asking something).
Young people tend to attribute to adults a degree of seriousness that is not always justified and Tomer is not only young but is not a veteran on the site and has not yet had the opportunity to get to know the people who work.
Tomer,
Who even brought up the subject of your age? What is even relevant?
Keep writing and expressing yourself fearlessly. The responses to what you write should only refer to your content and nothing else
If everything is voluntary, I don't understand how (especially my father) manages to combine writing the articles, reading and responding to the comments, editing the website and work.
The fact that I am 14 and a half years old does not mean anything that should be addressed in the comments.
It is true that I am relatively young. But until the age of 21 the neurons are still being created, the absorption is the best and the brain is the most flexible.
Therefore, from a mental point of view, children can be treated even more than adults (with the addition of explanations).
In my opinion, children (most people my age have already passed childhood) and old people are the smartest.
There is also a Zen koan: "The student becomes the teacher, the teacher becomes the master and the master becomes the student".
The intention is that the student learns from his teacher and becomes better than him and the teacher also improves and the senior master-teacher learns from the one who was a student.
In other words, even children can teach adults.
And elders after all their experience (they return to the insights of children but in a more practical way) together with children (who will remind them of what they forgot) can achieve tremendous achievements.
Sometimes those who don't know the box can come up with smart insights, which together with those who do know the box are translated into the language of the box as a breakthrough theory.
*I* want to treat you seriously and respect you too. To ask for forgiveness if I ever hurt you with the natural defensive instinct inherent in me.
Is there room for moderation between us?
Hugin,
I invested a lot of thought and preliminary study before writing my response (91), and calling it "frogs and "rape" is simply an insulting insult.
I expected a matter-of-fact attitude, after all I am only human and I may have been wrong. Please enlighten my eyes and correct me if necessary. Dispersing negative energies in space can cause unexpected results, including dangerous quantum jumps.
Do you understand Michael? His honor is as important as anyone here and his intelligence is in the most appropriate place at this point
to this site.
So here *I* if anything he continues to comment here despite and in spite of his young age and sensitive to outside human and scientific social influences.
Hugin:
I'm always cute and I'm not trying to get any frog on you.
I just want the site to be able to fulfill its role (and not you determine its role, but my father) as a site of scientific news and serious discussions based on serious thought and fair treatment of others.
I don't forget anything, I don't underestimate a single one, and of course, the width of a sheet is not acceptable in just one place.
I will swallow the frogs you try to dress me up and rape me in silence. Even though I don't eat them.
And Michael: Will you be cute sometime? Is there hope?
Tomer:
All work on the site is done voluntarily.
: )
Hugin,
In your words, you ignored some important factors in being, which can affect the quantum jumps in a mental and most significant way for the future of the planet. Convention two in brief:
** Bermuda Triangle - As we know, strong and unknown forces emanate from this area, and while interacting with telepathy from the planet Saturn, which struggles with gamma bursts from Orion's quantum being, affect in a very significant way the Mayan astronomical calculation tables, as well as the atomic clocks, Thus, there are additional triggers that should not be taken into account, but their spiritual influence is extremely important.
(Einstein also addressed the issue at the time).
** Crystals - Crystals have indescribable powers of being. One europium crystal kept in your living room is enough for its effect to reach, with the help of the essence of chaos and the "butterfly economy" to the edge of our solar system. It is well known that slight changes in the position of the crystals caused abnormalities in the orbits of the planets, including mental abnormalities of aliens from Andromeda.
Again, you ignored this important factor and thus reached necessarily wrong conclusions.
Your mistakes are due to the relatively short study time - only 30 years. Such things must be studied for thousands of years before one can feel "expertise"
In the hope that I put some order in your thoughts, and also by the way I clarified some difficult issues for Tomer
my father
1. Can you make a separate forum for articles, please?
2. Do you receive money as an editor or is it voluntary?
Tomer:
There are books called 'ephemeris' based on tables and calculations and astronomical data, based on which (and using different methods) the calculations being studied are done. Today it is easier and more accessible than in the past (30 years and more) to make the occasional cross-checks and calculations for testing and demonstration.
It is also possible that not everyone is mentally, physically, mentally, and experimentally built to see all the required arrays in a comprehensive scope, but this is the tool I use to understand ensembles of phenomena in continuous time sequences mainly.
Even when I research 'carrying wave' phenomena in history: the arrays of the 'participating forces and the affinities between them and the triggers allow me to understand more the effects that led to this and that in humanity, etc.'
For my friend, "the prism of time is infinite": similar to the visualization of a Mobius belt, which has no end and no beginning, but it has a 'trick' of folding required in its path and in it the concealment of a nano-atomic element or gram that rotates and repeats itself on both sides (a little Confusing :) This is how we, as beings on the 'space-time fabric' strip, alternately enter and exit different levels of being, both mentally as a quantum mind, flashes/ideas/flashes/breaks of insight but also live and experience it in our physical bodies within a limited and sweet time of 24 hours in different ways: walking, traveling, flying, going up in our bodies and all kinds of levels of being (and maybe also a sense of dimensions).
I started learning this almost 30 years ago (and there is no end to it) when I realized that life sometimes sweeps us along like puppets on strings and I felt 'controlled' and I decided that if this is so, I should learn how the working forces that are outside of me and inside of me work like an internal/external clock and not be like 'A leaf in the wind'.
It doesn't always help, as you understand :) but there are other and additional factors (in the relationships of life) that you slowly learn through as well, when you start.
In any case: I will also listen to your advice, and as a graduate of the Einstein school:) I will also go buy the book 'Uncle Albert' and read it, among other things,
And the Internet is not the main thing from which you learn, with all due respect to the information and wonders that it allows at certain times.
Regarding, atomic clock: I also wanted Michael to answer me on the matter, according to the method he understands it (there are many ways, methods and approaches to understand things and the essence of life itself.)
Hugin
Did you mean gravity waves as jump?
If not (this also doesn't really affect if you want to expand, tell me) it is only possible by some entity (God or an alien from another dimension, etc.) without logic.
This is not an article about a star that was hit by gamma rays and turned into a supernova.
These are about a massive star that collapsed and became a neutron star or black hole and before it became what it became there was a supernova explosion.
A supernova shines in the entire electromagnetic spectrum including gamma rays- the gamma rays did not explode the star, the explosion of the star produced gamma rays.
Which large atomic watches are you talking about?
There is no such thing as absolute time. Time varies from place to place and body to body, therefore your claim is not clear.
Can you elaborate on the "Principle of Eternal Time" and the rotation or folding please?
To Tomer:
Despite the obstacles, I would like to respond to the 78 you referred to me.
It is possible that the terminology 'quantum jump' is not acceptable or common, but it is certainly possible for a situation of a trigger, an acute frenzy, or significant gravity factors that may or may cause a central depression that will rotate all the 'dials of time', even for a single moment that will change the entire geographical array of every face The earth and the entire solar system and the galaxy at the same time. There will be those, that this acute act will affect them and they will feel it more, and there will be those that the same serious or frenzied movement will be less significant for them.
Think about it as if we are on the same 'sea-ship' or 'space-ship', as a living and breathing body in which parts are damaged during a shock and parts of it remain: the intact parts may have to 'restore' the rest of the 'tissue' or 'tissues'.
In any case: science does speak in a 'physical' language, but that physics is a living and breathing body of 'nature' both micro and macro, and everything is interconnected.
This article is no different, which talks about a star hit by gamma rays and turns into a supernova that sends rays into space from every star in the sea as micro to man and to the world in a chain of relationships.
Since nature is carried on waves of cycles (biorhythms), there are calculations in the dens that make it possible to calculate the 'big clocks' and to understand and see in holographic and different ways the ticking of the 'big clock' as well as the 'atomic' and according to this to better understand the general processes and general trends in order to 'value ' More correct towards them.
To this whole complex I also call: 'the prism of eternal time', from which we understand the relative time/everyone according to the places of his invention in the mental/personal and general cosmic system.
In fact, the more the Earth is 'ready' for rotation - or the 'folding', the more complete the process will be.
I would say that it is possible to simulate the same 'my-journey' process as the experience of the journey in the big 'Missile' at Eurodisney, if you happened to be there :)
Tomer:
Words in Hebrew sometimes have different foreign meanings, but in the present case the word "inflation" was indeed used to refer to inflation
Uri, regarding response 12
The speed of light does not change for different viewers - the speed of light will be the speed of light no matter what (there are things that change, if you want I can expand).
Michael, Point and others.
The big inflation = the theory of inflation?
Michael:
This discussion seems ridiculous by the minute.
The lady needs urgent help in an area in which apparently neither of us are experts.
May his name be praised forever, what an article
Hugin:
I am not involving anyone here who has not intervened himself.
The very interventions of people in the problem is because there is a problem and you create the problem on purpose.
I don't know what scenarios you're talking about and I'm not really interested. With all due respect - I do not see you as an educational authority.
I'm begging you, don't involve 14-year-old youth in what's going on here.
Please Michael, understand me for a change, please, I'm serious and almost hurt by their name too, that's enough.
I cannot detail to you the scenarios in the field of rehabilitation of youth of 'so-called good and enlightened parents' with 'good' intentions, who fell into the 'jaws of enlightenment and progress, so-called' under the pretext or erroneous 'arguments' of helping them... Please Michael, I beg you.
Believe me for a change, I am a sincere and honest person. (If my lips are sharp and harsh sometimes, there are reasons for that).
Ori:
I agree with you that patience for the uneducated can be useful.
My agreement is based on experience as I have never been impatient with lack of knowledge.
I have less patience for the disdain sometimes expressed by ignorant people towards the knowledgeable.
This contempt can be explicit (then it really annoys me) or indirect and implied (then it annoys me a little less).
I explained exactly what you said bothered me and it wasn't your lack of knowledge.
I again want to thank all the respondents to the questions I raised.
I want to make it clear again that I did not intend for a moment to belittle or belittle the quality, abilities, importance and genius of all the thousands of people who studied the universe and the amazing phenomena that emerge from it in much greater depth than I did. I have no intention of being smarter than Einstein or other researchers. As I mentioned, a selfish layman in the field and fond of the moment.
All I asked was to express, perhaps in a slightly irritating way but with the intention of provoking a response, slightly different opinions and all this in order to understand. The knowledge site is a site that I learned a lot from and I enjoy visiting it from time to time and expanding my horizons. All I tried and will continue to try maybe in the future is to shout 'the king is naked' and see if there are others who understand the reality like I do or if I only see the palms of his hands and the rest of his clothed body is simply not visible to my eyes...
Thanks to the diligent young Tomer for the answers and to the other friends.
To Michael R. A little patience, for people who didn't spend the time you probably spent getting down to the bottom of things and understanding them from the root, won't hurt you. And thank you for your consideration.
In the meantime, I will continue reading and maybe later I will come back with new insights or complete questions later on.
Tomer:
Your symmetrical appeal is unjustified and I attribute it to the fact that you haven't been following what's going on here for a long time.
Even if you look at this discussion, you will see that the real hate speech comes only from her. From the others comes at most a laugh of despair at this ongoing situation.
Hugin: Do you want us to stop with the hate speech?
It is completely under your control.
I don't control your feelings and I don't have my feelings.
Regarding response 49
The jump you described is impossible, but hypothetically if it happened these would be the results:
Time may have warped, but it also warps anyway due to gravity.
So in our eyes it doesn't matter and besides that for everyone on earth he won't feel any change.
Noam
What I tried to say before is that the site belongs to everyone using a parallel example.
Apparently language classes affect me (Lallaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally:'{ ).
As I already said, you will ignore her and write more clearly [even though your comments sound nice, they are not completely factual (at least in terms of what accompanies the content)]
Hugin
What about you and the younger generation???
I guess that if the younger generation wants to choose a speaker or a representative, they will look for someone 50-60 years younger (and of course also more balanced).
** You ** are redundant on the site and not the younger generation, that no one has authorized you to speak on behalf of.
Do you have children? Because you are simply causing headaches for the younger generation.
enough.
Haven't you realized yet that they are much more intelligent than you and don't need the intervention that destroys the atmosphere you project on this site? Don't speak in the name of 'science' if you don't understand the value of 'life' from them.
Tomer,
Your views on the country and citizens, etc. are interesting but completely irrelevant to the discussion.
The Science site is a scientific site, therefore you won't find many things on it: no poetry, no stories, no politics and no legal matters - just science.
Hugin is so amazing with her meaningless gibberish that the repeated response every time to her words is: "What are you talking about?" Or: "I didn't understand what you said"
As mentioned, there are quite a few sites where meaningless chatter is received with great sympathy and even screams of admiration.
Hugin mistakenly thinks that the science website is one of them, and refuses to listen and understand, thereby turning herself into a serial harasser, who clearly enjoys the role she has taken on.
My hope is that her token will finally fall and she will continue to harass other sites.
If you don't understand why her words are unrelated, take a little more time and read her other comments, and I'm sure you'll understand.
Noam
What is a state if not an idea of a large group of citizens with some common denominator that should meet the needs of the citizens?
A body that is driven by citizens for the sake of the citizens without discrimination and without prejudices or the personal opinion of someone senior, versus the opinion of another citizen?
This also applies to this site, it was created by people for people with a common denominator - interest in the material presented on the site.
Without discrimination no matter what the religion/belief, way of life, intelligence or speaking style!
I don't understand why you said her words were unrelated.
Maybe they are in figurative language, unnecessarily poetic or not so possible but related to the topic, but in the form of a joke.
But still they are all related.
Thank you for the compromise offer.
And to your question, in short:
Because I represent many, many, many, real nice and cute families, in life :)
Hugin
Out of curiosity, why do you speak in plural?
Tomer,
The problem is not a matter of wording. The problem is a complete incompatibility with the site.
It's a shame that at her age she descends to extremely low levels of language use, and it's a shame that she turned herself into a serial harasser, but apparently it gives her satisfaction.
In any case, a brief review of her comments shows that she is completely unnecessary on the site.
Lahugin, Michael, Noam and others
I have an idea for a compromise.
Hugin, try to write more simply, or at least when you are not understood, come back in simpler language.
And all the others got off her! This site is for everyone and you can reach understandings in a pleasant way.
You don't need to remove from the site and don't descend to the level of swearing!!!
We've had enough of Natcha's words.
Be cute and that's it. Everything else and the good, comes from this place.
To Livna, religious propaganda, even if it is written in English, is still religious propaganda, and the connection between it and reality is tenuous. Please spare the surfers here from reading in English, neither here nor on the Syrian website.
By the way, Hugin - what happened that you forgot "Nazi"?
Hugin:
I will repeat the question in a more modest way:
Is there any way to get you to treat us like bacteria?
You will be surprised! Cats are wiser and wiser than you, it's time you learn something from them too/ you are not from a superior race but the lowest recently exposed "proud mind" and arrogant like you. An exploiter, a cheater, a thief, an extortionist, and a distorter of truths.
I'll feel sorry for you, and I'll even learn from you the moment you really and truly act like an intelligent 'Posicite'.
The time has come, inshallah.
Hugin:
What should we do to get completely tired of you - so much so that you won't feel the need to waste even a single moment on us?
There has to be a way to do this because I guess you're not trying to put intelligence into the heads of cats, for example.
Is there any way we can convince you to treat us like cats?
For Hogin to represent the younger generation, she needs a time machine, which as far as I know has not been invented yet.
Regarding the representation of the other generations - I hope there is an unintentional mistake here. If she does represent - our situation is much worse than I thought until now.
Regarding consequences for the younger generation: what is this lie??? Where did you see my reference to our young and promising generation?
My criticism of Hugin is completely matter-of-fact:
She is a bloated New Age prattle, who often uses words and sentences that no one - including her - understands the meaning of, and wastes the time of the site's readers. There are enough New Age sites where she will be welcomed and even admired. There is no need to engage us in this nonsense
Okay father, probably your son will be able to judge more clearly than you. I wish him success. (When the day comes he will explain to you in his special way).
Amalia, I'm not ready to be your kindergartner.
I have something to do while it takes me.
You have no sense of purpose. If you had, you wouldn't have made false implications for Hugin and the entire younger generation/and the other generations she represents. Shut up for a change.
Hugin,
I thought to Tommy that your bloated New Age nonsense was the bottom of the pit, but you are amazing to do, and prove that the language of the Bibs is an even more successful field for you...
Come on
You don't count on us.
And you don't deserve any explanation, you will understand by yourself and your own efforts and not at the expense of others, you are fed up.
Hugin
What is this speech in plural language?
How many people do you represent?
You promised us in the past to disappear - why won't you keep your promise?
Forgive us, this noam is starting to get on our nerves: there are also young, good and brilliant boys on the site and he interferes and shuts down the conversations between us without calculation.
We understand much more easily than it seems this spider/ant figure who speaks in the name of the slanderous 'Noam'.
Lenaam: You understood that without effort! :) In any case, we hope very much for you.
Hugin trying to understand and not succeeding
I'm curious:
Do you struggle to write your nonsense night, or does it come easily to you?
Why is it important to you to highlight your stupidity and lack of understanding in public?
Why won't you respond to the request of so many, and ignore us from the site?
To the point, a fantastic idea, also for you: be healthy and whole.
Especially Laurie
If I remember correctly, you asked: if we are traveling faster than the speed of light, how is it possible that we see other stars.
I answered you about this but at 12:10 today I remembered something else related:
The prevailing apocalypse theory is called "The Great Darkness" (it may have another name and it's just a name that can also fit).
This theory says that space-time itself expands and expands and expands until eventually (more precisely
On Google's birthday to the universe) everything will separate and there won't even be atoms, these are a kind of particle soup that quantum theory controls (there is a possibility of a continuation, if you want I will explain it to you).
Before there is soup if we look up the stars seem to go out.
Except that they used up all their fuel and turned into black rocks and black holes, the distance and speed between each object will increase so that we can no longer see stars.
So your logic is not devoid of any basis, it is simply not relevant at the moment.
If you have heard the term cosmological decade, the particle soup will be in the century decade.
If you want to understand relativity better, I recommend the book: "Uncle Albert's Space and Time".
The book explains the theory of relativity in simple language and with a very nice plot.
to "trying to understand more",
Start with a youth encyclopedia.
Tomer, thank you
It is true that their 'distortion' is only as if in their 'head' (as a brain-mental stimulus or trigger), but it can also be true in 'reality' if and when there is a 'quantum'/collective' jump or frenzy of the earth, with - Time and time!! And because then Einstein's legality also remains valid. :)
Trying to understand more
I did not understand your first question and the end of the second.
But I can help with the lawyer and the hi-tech guy.
If you meant that the change occurs when they fly, the change will be in no more than a few nanoseconds, and only an outside observer will be able to see
The difference - for them, time will pass normally.
Einstein said that sitting next to a beautiful girl for an hour will show about 5 minutes - sitting in the oven for 5 minutes will show
About an hour, that's relative.
But not relativity in our sense.
Apparently time warps for them like in the example I gave earlier.
It seems that time passes for them like we all say sometimes: "how time flies" or "it seems like it never ends".
Distortion of time = distortion of space, I don't think they distort the space that much.
In conclusion:
Time warping is possible and does happen.
But their distortion, it's only in their head
Trying to understand more
Thanks
Michael
I explained briefly, maybe it was too short or too fast.
If someone unfamiliar with the material would like further explanations, I would be happy to explain.
He should also specify what and how was not clear
Hugin:
Before I can help you understand the answer to your question you have to help me understand what you are saying/asking.
I don't understand anything from your response.
Tomer:
I'm actually quite familiar with the subject and I didn't need to put things in order, but if I tried to understand things using what you said, I would have a big mess.
To the brilliant and wise Tomer:) Bless you, our eldest son was born exactly on the date you indicated for your birth:)
Greetings from subjects of telepathic coordination): (in the complex fabric of the prism of infinite time) I-there, I-here.
Ori
Before the definition I gave for a while, did you think it was a time?
Close enough I hope you understand.
my father
Please delete the failed attempts
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I liked to put the dashes otherwise it would have been ruined like the previous ones.
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My people were destroyed after half an hour of work I will try to restore them and if I don't succeed I will present in a similar way
Ori
I will sort things out for you as far as I understand them
1. We can see things moving relatively quickly away from us because they aren't really
moving faster than C Therefore the speed between us and the event you see is less than C.
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Let's say there are two people who are each moving at 0.5C and at some point they will wave goodbye, to say that the combined speed is C [each point can be considered a center (hence the law of addition of velocities)] the speed between the observer and the event is only 0.5C.
Therefore the viewer can see the event.
2. Imagine a three-dimensional network made of two types of threads connected to each other without the possibility of separation.
A thread of time and a thread of space {[length, width and depth (according to string theory there are 11 dimensions, read on wiki under
dimension and the links)]I don't believe in God and one of the links helped me better understand what we see
I have
This fabric is called space-time and it is not just an idea like the equator but like energy.
Space-time can expand and contract under the influence of mass/energy.
This curvature is responsible for various phenomena such as gravity, relative time and maybe even time travel.
3. The expansion of space has no speed limit, therefore the universe can expand faster than C, and it accelerates (what expands
is the space-time with the help of dark energy and the infiltration theory as stated in response 29)
4. Time is actually a point but because we are in it it seems extended and time and space are actually the same
Talk (read the links). This means that when you move through space you are actually moving through time and the direction of space
Time can warp too, and it warps together with space.
I hope I helped.
One of the people has no head because my computer is screwed up, I worked on this comment for an hour and a half gross.
If there are any misunderstandings or new questions, for example how do wormholes relate to this or what I believe, I will be happy to answer.
I asked last time how old you are because I am relatively young (January 25.1.95, XNUMX) and I wanted to know if there are other children/boys like me.
1.. In your opinion, is there any plausibility or information about approaches or theory, that the earth at the beginning (of the cycle) sank or was damaged by some factor G and became a "black hole" (after any "intelligent" or "insidious" evolutionary processes: pagan "development" "At the same time as 'brain' development followed by development 'according to the divisions of the races/and the species later and at the same time the impact of gamma rays' or any primitive/new and other definition) that is: "chaos then created for him again, renewal as it is written in the sources: "Genesis Bara God made the heavens and the earth: 'And the earth was void and darkness and darkness on the face of the abyss, and *the Spirit of God *hovered over the *waters: And God said, Let there be light, and there was light: And God saw that it was good, and God made a difference between the light and the darkness." And so on, continued same chapter
2. I read most of your conversation regarding the 'perception of time': time-space fabric, atomic clock, etc.
Recently, I happened to have two people, one a lawyer and one senior in high-tech, tell me that their personal feeling also changes in terms of 'feelings' over time and changes in their body as well, I argued that this is a kind of 'illusion': a kind of classified translations of the brain into triggers. On further thought, probably also I am wrong because it is known about the change of the global 'space-time fabric', a process that is forming again, and is forming, reaching a critical state in 2016, when before that? Humanity-nature-and the divine' and only then in a miraculous, "inherent" way, and in the best case also "wise and prudent", the desired something that everyone dreams about at night happens. 2012.
Help me/us/us? To understand more.
Ori:
You may not be trying to deceive but you are guilty of the sin of arrogance.
How do you even imagine a situation where thousands of smart people who bothered to study the subject and examined the subject from every possible aspect know less than what your gut feelings tell you?
what? Are their gut feelings less good? And did their gut feelings go bad just because they studied?
This whole attitude of "I didn't study the subject but I can teach those who did study it" is arrogant and misleading.
As Oren pointed out - the physical results of relativity are evident everywhere.
The example of the GPS systems is an excellent example where, as Oren pointed out, if someone had tried to calculate the location on the assumption that the satellite clocks work like the clocks on the ground, he would have parked his car in the middle of the sea.
It should be understood that this is not a pendulum clock or some kind of mechanical clock that just goes wrong and simply does not show the time correctly.
These are sealed watches.
However, in my opinion, the best proof of the correctness of the claim that what changes is time and not just the behavior of this or that type of clock comes from another direction - from the fact that we can detect on the surface of the earth radiation that originates in space (actually in the upper limit of the atmosphere) consisting of particles that attract Their lives are not long enough to allow them to pass through the atmosphere.
You should know that certain subatomic particles exist for a very short time after their formation and at the end of this time they fade away and break up into other particles.
Some of them live for such a short time that even if they moved at the speed of light they could not cross the atmosphere without fading (we can see their lifetime when they are created artificially - for example in a particle accelerator).
The reason why we discover such particles after all is due to the fact that due to their high speed their time progresses more slowly than our time.
From the point of view of the particle, the explanation is of course different because according to the Ori who rides on it, our time is actually slower, but since not only time changes due to the movement but also the distances - Ori claims that the atmosphere is much thinner than we claim and that is the only reason why he was able to cross it before it disintegrated.
Note that here I was only talking about direct evidence that time changes.
Of course, the claim was originally accepted because of indirect evidence (such as the determination of the speed of light in experiments such as those of Michelson and Morley) but I preferred not to base it on this type of evidence because you claimed that mathematics does what the researcher wants.
This is of course another mistake of yours that also originates from the sin of arrogance, but for now I will content myself with the above.
Ori,
Regarding the difference between the observing system and the system moving at a speed close to the speed of light - this is due to a correction made in the equations of motion of each of the bodies. There is a correction factor regarding the time of each system.
Therefore it is not correct to say that the system moving at the speed of light has "frozen", but that the time passing through it is slower.
And regarding the effect of gravity on space, you can see the bending of light around a star for example - this is a physical example.
The effect of gravity on time is manifested in the synchronization of satellites such as the GPS, which without taking this into account, according to Einstein's calculations, then you would not have received an accurate position in your GPS and satellites would have been calculated in their position incorrectly, which would have programmed them too close to enter a wrong orbit and even burn in the atmosphere.
And so, yes. There are physical proofs that match the theory and mathematics very nicely.
I may not explain the best and simplest, I am sure that Michael and others will be able to do it in a more successful way than me.
Here is a link to the Hebrew Wikipedia (I personally recommend that you read the English entry - more complete):
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%99%D7%97%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%AA
Oren, what did you mean when you wrote the following paragraph:
Time can indeed "stretch" as you called it, and it is not an optical illusion of the recording device, because the universe consists of a space-time "fabric". And when there is an especially large gravity (usually created by a high mass) it causes a "bump" in that space - something that causes the distortion of space and time. This is a settled fact (although the theory may very well be incomplete) because if we did not consider this fact devices like your GPS would be worthless and satellites would fall from the sky.'
What fact verifies the existence of the "rebellions" you speak of? Has anyone seen one of these around? And what did you mean when you said '(although it is very possible that the theory is not complete)' - did you not thereby prove that my claim is correct, that the presence of these holes in the theory shows one existing fact and that is that it is very possible that the theory is wrong? (Wrong can be only by 20 degrees and not by 180).
First, it is important to remove from the agenda the possibility that I am trying to mislead someone.
I don't consider myself an expert in the field, I'm more of a simple hobbyist who hears from here and there. The opinions I present are my personal opinions that do not rely on such and such equations.
As a matter of fact, the claim that time can stretch or that there is such a thing as a fabric of space and time seems to me to be no less simplistic than the approach I presented. The fact that someone, no matter how smart and important he may be, also managed to harness a sweetener that almost always fits with the theory outlined, and the emphasis should be on the word 'almost', does not mean that he is right.
Throughout human history there are countless examples of following the 'understanding' or the 'wise' without checking and saying that they followed the inclination of their hearts rather than simplicity and logic.
Maybe I'm not learned enough to understand the concept of time dilation. But maybe it's my advantage to be able to look at a phenomenon simply and not through microscopes, or more appropriate to say telescopes, of complex and complicated theories that do not fully explain the observed phenomena.
According to Einstein's theory, the person who traveled at the speed of light for a certain time and meets his friend who did not travel at the same speed for the same time, the friend who remained in his place will be slightly older than the friend who managed to move at incredible speeds. In my opinion, instead of thinking that it is possible, you should have found what is wrong with the theory. Time is time is time on a global level. On the other hand, subjectively, time stands still for a drop of water in a river frozen in winter. Time will move again for that drop only when summer comes. But can we say that time stretched or warped because that drop froze for a few months?
Ori,
No offense - but much of what you wrote is nonsense. There is hardly a single scientific fact, and sometimes the claims say the opposite of what physics tells us:
"The attitude that says that time can stretch is a distortion of reality. In practice, time is constant. What does distort - the image we get with our optical recording devices. There is a claim that says that if we fly faster than the speed of light, time can go back - in practice, if we manage to reach such a speed, we will change our point of view so that we see the events that happened in the past happen again (with a resolution that can be seen at such distances as them). We won't be able to see the Titanic sink again for example..."
Time can indeed "stretch" as you called it, and it is not an optical illusion of the receiving device, because the universe consists of a space-time "fabric". And when there is an especially large gravity (usually created by a high mass) it causes a "bump" in that space - something that causes the distortion of space and time. This is a settled fact (although it is very possible that the theory is incomplete) because if we did not take this fact into account devices like the -Your GPS would be worthless and satellites would fall from the sky.
I guess you were confused with the quantum phenomenon that the mere measurement causes the wave function to collapse to a certain result, and only then does the measured parameter have a value, and until then there is a probability of its values (I can elaborate more if you are interested, I explained it simply and briefly).
According to the correction of the theory of relativity (the second correction if I'm not mistaken) then time passes "faster" for an external system/observer, compared to a body moving at a speed approaching the speed of light. Therefore, a person who flies at the speed of light, when he stops, he will find that outside time has only passed more - that is, it is as if he jumped forward in time. That is, according to Einstein's theory of relativity, one can travel to the future by a roundabout way, but never to the past.
You are using Einstein's theory of relativity, which treats the speed of light as a constant, to describe a phenomenon that the equation is not supposed to deal with - on the assumption that the speed of light can be exceeded.
I believe that you did not distort the scientific facts and theories on purpose, but from lack of knowledge. If you have any further questions on these topics feel free, as there are people who understand even much more than I do here I guess.
Hi Tomer
Thanks for the answers and explanations. Not ashamed - I'm in my thirties.
What I was trying to say is that because we lack simple explanations (like E=MC2) we invent somewhat delusional explanations.
I'm pretty sure most of our observations are skewed by time
, the distance, dark substances, hidden masses and all kinds of other things that make the image we get look different from what it is, or more correctly to say, was the situation when the light or energy went out in our direction.
The attitude that says time can stretch is a distortion of reality. In practice, time is constant. What does distort - the image we receive with our video recording devices. There is an argument that says that if we fly faster than the speed of light, time can go back - in fact, if we manage to reach such a speed, we will change our perspective so that we will see the events that happened in the past happen again (with a resolution that can be seen at such distances as us). We will not be able to see the Titanic sink Again for example…
I think age doesn't change my point of view. My knowledge and degree of readiness to automatically accept theories of great and important people is much more influential, in my opinion.
I would love to hear a reference to things, of course
my father
I hope you continue the site for many years to come.
Ori
Space expands because of Einstein's theory of relativity, which generally says this:
There is no such thing as space and time, there is a space-time fabric.
Space-time is very flexible and its flexibility is responsible for all kinds of phenomena such as gravitational repulsion and gravity.
The mass/energy (E=MC2) is what stabilizes it.
Dark-energy (dark because we don't know exactly what it is) pushes space-time.
It is possible because as I said space-time is a fabric and like you can stretch your shirt so space-time can expand.
This response is very limited, you should read more about it.
How old are you? (Really not in the insulting part)
Ori
The accepted theory today is called the "theory of infiltration" invented by Goth.
Before the big bang (at the time of the primordial atom or similar things), the 4 basic forces were united.
The weak nuclear force.
The strong nuclear force.
The electromagnetic force.
Gravity.
When the big bang happened the universe expanded faster than the speed of light (the laws of physics did not yet exist because of the unified force).
Gravity was the first to disconnect and then the other forces.
This theory explains:
1. The surprising uniformity of temperature in the universe.
2. How the universe expands faster than the speed of light.
3. How the universe continues the above two things.
Tzik:
This is not about the distribution of the eruptions by distance, but the distribution of the observed eruptions by distance.
If the distribution indicates anything, it is the development of our ability to detect.
If the most distant explosion happened about 190 million light-years from here, then 13 billion is many times more than 190 in millions, it's a bit of a difference, it's not a small difference, it's not unusual that more explosions of billions of light years will be found in the near future - it's an event rare
age:
Why do you think I didn't realize that someone on the site fixed it?
Regarding humor - many of the things that are said here in complete seriousness are extremely ridiculous so if I were to laugh at everything that is funny here I would not do anything else.
In the current case I wasn't even sure if what I said was what you were trying to imply and in fact I'm still not 100% sure of that.
Michael Habibi.. Did someone on the site correct what you didn't understand?
And a bit of humor 🙂 After all, the weekend has started.
age:
To me - when there is a complete answer - everything that adds subtracts.
The website's automatic tools also think so and when there are too many links they block the response.
I did not understand the question about and about a point.
Maybe you meant to imply that we should have re-edited the Wikipedia entry but I prefer to choose my own occupation.
Oh, I don't have a problem 🙂 Thanks.
Someone edited the link for you.
And don't be lazy next time bring it in Hebrew as well. What is wrong ? 😛 And if it is not updated then why are you here?
age:
I saw that in another browser I also encountered a problem with the link.
I think the problem has since been fixed. Try again
age:
I clicked on the link in my response and it worked flawlessly.
I always prefer the English Wikipedia and the entry we are dealing with is an excellent example of why I prefer it.
The Hebrew version is simply empty of content while the English version is full and overflowing.
The truth is that this is another good situation compared to the situations I encountered with a Hebrew text that is full of mistakes.
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation"
Your link is broken Michael.
If anything, then a link to Hebrew 😉
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%A4%D7%9C%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%AA
Hope it will work..
For everyone and Ori in particular:
According to what is currently accepted in science:
The answers presented by a point are correct.
A. Ben-Ner's words are also true.
An exhaustive summary of the topic can be found HERE:
It's a sum of speeds that can reach beyond the speed of light.
And this is the difference between the visible and invisible universe.
They actually move no faster than the speed of light.
As a point and my father wrote.
What is the expansion of space? After all, this space exists and is...empty. The only space that I understand that expands is the space between the galaxies - the distance between them. The moving away of the galaxies means movement of the mass that makes them up. And as you noted, energy does not have the ability to move faster than the speed of light, and hence there is a problem with the assumption that beyond a certain distance these masses move at the speed of light or More than her, as some of the commenters claim here...
Laurie
As far as I know the theory is that, according to Hubble's law, the speed of the galaxies receding in space increases as their distance increases. There is no theoretical limit to the speed of expansion of space. The limit here is on the speed of movement of energy = mass in space, which is known as the speed of light = C.
It can therefore be described that there is a certain distance from us, where the speed of expansion of space from us is the speed of light. Beyond this distance, space expands at a speed that exceeds the speed of light. From this remote area we cannot receive AM radiation. This still does not mean that there is no matter=energy there.
Point, if the swelling is orders of magnitude greater than the speed of light - we wouldn't see anything since we would be moving away from these distant objects at a speed that exceeds the speed of light, since we would be increasing our range from the light coming out of these objects all the time.
This is exactly one of the slaps I'm talking about...
Father, the speed of expansion of space is not limited to the speed of light. This thought led to many problems when they came up with the idea of the big bang and since then the models were changed to the big inflation which means inflation at a speed higher than the speed of light by many orders of magnitude.
Father, if the speed at which we move away from each other is greater than the speed of light - we will be able to see each other but at speeds much slower than the actual course of events since the light reaching us will be at a relatively very slow speed. And I don't see that this point is addressed at all in articles about phenomena that are predicted at such distances.
According to the same method, if the explosion was visible here for 10 seconds in actuality it should have occurred in a fraction of a second and that doesn't add up so well to me with the huge masses that caused that super explosion.
To the point, thanks. I still don't understand - to the best of my very basic knowledge it is impossible to move faster than the speed of light?!?! And if the universe expands at a speed that is close to the speed of light, then relatively light, regardless of its domain (visible or visible), moves relatively slowly between two objects moving away from each other at a speed close to the speed of light.
But I don't know where you get the assumption that the galaxies are moving away at such a great speed? Just a few days ago, an article was published here that indicated that the speed of movement of the Milky Way galaxy is about 600 kilometers per second, which is many orders of magnitude away from the speed of light (approximately 300 kilometers per second) - isn't that right?
What I'm trying to say is that if the universe "inflates" (i.e. the speed at which the clusters of galaxies are moving away from each other) at a speed approaching or exceeding the speed of light, then we would either see nothing or see everything very "slowly".
And the bottom line, the world of astrophysics has been in intellectual darkness in recent years. It seems that all those involved in space exploration were caught up in the big bang concept before which there was nothing and it seems to me that all kinds of slaps in this theory are being ignored a bit.
It is not certain that these areas move faster than the speed of light. They move in other directions and if we add our speed of separation and their speed of receding (taking into account of course the angle, but let's assume that there are also some that are receding from us by 180 degrees, so then it is a simple sum) we will get a receding from us apparently above the speed of light.
Uri, actually it appears in the article that the redshift is about 8, from which the speed of the galaxy's receding relative to the speed of light can be calculated. And that's 0.976 times the speed of light.
Uri, the galaxies moving away from us is due to the expansion of the universe. The speed of inflation is not limited to the speed of light. Otherwise the whole universe would be a visible universe. Beyond the visible universe there is a vast region that moves faster than the speed of light and is therefore invisible.
If this explosion is 13 billion light years away from us, and it is known that the universe is expanding all the time, and at a rate much slower than the speed of light (relatively), then in order for us to be so far from this explosion (13 billion light years) we would have to move much longer away from the source of the explosion in order to be at a distance so big!
That's why I don't understand the stubborn clinging of the leading scientists and researchers and the rest of the herd to the big bang theory! If there was such a bang about 13 billion years ago, then the entire universe created from that bang should be distant (from one end to the other) much less than 13 billion light years! Because for several billion years everything has been spreading at a speed much lower than the speed of light.
Can anyone explain it?
age,
There are hundreds of such phenomena every "day" in the universe according to hypothesis. And we even caught quite a few of these in our telescopes (almost every day). But this is the most distant gamma-ray burst from us - that is, the oldest.
Here are some previous examples mentioned on the site:
https://www.hayadan.org.il/500-gama-brust-every-day-01020/
https://www.hayadan.org.il/record-breaking-space-blast-2102099/
A little clarification…
Theoretically, are there more? How did they not catch it until today?
And at that time the universe was virgin, wasn't it? Or was it in normal condition like today?
It is accurate, a light year is a unit of distance, so it should be said: from here.
Good Day
Sabdarmish Yehuda
The wording is a bit confusing, the explosion happened 13 billion light years ago, not 13 billion light years from here...
seconds, and the decay days.
From 190 million light years to 13 billion light years is no small matter.
How long does this whole supernova process take?