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About the H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine

In today's information-rich world, the difficulty is finding the reliable sources, not necessarily finding information. In light of questions that have arisen from those around me, I have collected what I know about the vaccine for this record, hoping to make a little order in the mess

Influenza virus
Influenza virus
First a little about the flu

The flu virus is not new, it appears every year. In fact, about 5-20% of the world's population gets infected with the flu every year. In the US, 200,000 people are hospitalized and 3,000 people die from the flu and related illnesses. The typical symptoms of the flu are fever, chills, muscle aches and cough. After a day or two of incubation the disease erupts and lasts for several days and even up to two weeks. The main impact of the flu is on people over the age of 65, 60% of hospitalizations and 90% of deaths from the flu occur in these ages. Although among children there is a high infection rate and low mortality, only about 100 children a year die from the common flu in the US.

The virus itself contains genetic material of the RNA type, a feature that allows for a high rate of mutations during the creation of new virus copies. The hereditary material of influenza consists of eight parts. This special feature allows the exchange of parts between viruses of different strains and the creation of a new strain of influenza. Thus, every year we come across new strains of influenza. If by chance the new strain is easily transmitted between humans, and it belongs to a subspecies that the human population has not been exposed to, a plague results.

Today there are three main strains of influenza in nature classified as influenzavirus A, B, C. The seasonal flu, also called H3N2, and the swine flu, also called H1N1, belong to group A.

The H1N1 virus that causes the current pandemic contains genes from influenza viruses originating in humans, pigs and poultry. The virus was first discovered on March 18, 2009 in Mexico. After four weeks the virus reached the USA, ten weeks later it had already reached 23 countries all over the world. Three months after its discovery, the virus was declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization. The main distribution of the virus today is in the Western Hemisphere - America and Europe.

H1N1 showed uniqueness right from the start. It appeared at the end of the typical flu season and most of its spread took place in the season when you hardly ever see the flu - in the summer. Another thing unique to this virus is that almost no one under the age of 50 has natural antibodies to it, and only about a third of people over the age of 50 do. The third thing is that the virus hits the "wrong" people. In normal flu, most of the deaths occur among the very old and the very young, but H1N1 hits the hardest on young people under the age of 50. 88% of the deaths from H1N1 are under the age of 65 compared to normal flu where 90% of the deaths occur over the age of 65.

In some of the references to the flu epidemic in the media, comparisons can be found between the regular flu and that of the current pandemic. Although we are not used to giving special attention to the seasonal flu, it must be remembered that it kills about 500,000 people worldwide every year. Even if the H1N1 flu was like the regular flu, it is a serious disease and people die from it. It remains to be reminded that H1N1 came together with the normal flu and not in its place and it is not yet known how the two influences will behave with each other. In Israel, about 500 people die from the common flu every year. This may not sound like much, but it is more than the number of people who are killed in car accidents every year. According to the reports of the Center for Diseases in the USA, CDC, and the World Health Organization, WHO, about 5000 people have died so far from the H1N1 flu all over the world, 62 of them in Israel.

The purpose of the article is not to incite fear, it is the flu and we are facing a more severe flu season than usual. You should drive carefully and take preventive measures, increase public awareness - wash your hands, cough into your elbow, reduce exposure, stay at home if you suspect infection. So far everyone agrees, the disputes start with the vaccines.

About the regular flu vaccine

The anti-vaccine movement arose following a study, which has since been refuted several times, that talked about the link between the triple vaccine (measles-rubella-rubella) and autism. This movement grew and grew while being fed by the fear of parents and their desire to do well with their children. Over the years, this movement began to attack any vaccine whatsoever, regardless of the research being carried out in the field. Regarding the flu vaccine, the main piece of information used to scare people away from vaccines stems from the 1976 pandemic.

In 1976 another strain of H1N1 circulated which led to a large vaccination wave in the population. Following the vaccine, there was an increase in the chance of developing a neurological syndrome called Guillain-Barre. It is an autoimmune disease that arises as a result of infections or anything else that stimulates the immune system. In Guillain-Barré syndrome, the immune system attacks the nervous system and causes numbness and weakness. In severe cases the disease leads to paralysis and in the most severe cases there is a mortality rate of 3-10% due to the fact that the patients are too weak to breathe on their own, or as a result of stopping the activity of the autonomic nervous system responsible for the activity of the lungs and heart. Even today there is still a dispute as to whether the flu vaccine causes the syndrome since it also occurs in the unvaccinated population. In 1976 the chance of developing the syndrome was only 1 in 100,000 more than the background in the population. Since then, 30 years of experience with the seasonal flu vaccine have been accumulated. The articles that do link the syndrome to the flu vaccine today talk about a chance of one in a million above the natural incidence in the population. Even if these studies are correct, the chance of dying from the flu still exceeds the chance of having the syndrome.

80% of people with the syndrome do not experience long-term side effects. If we accept the figure that 5 in a million vaccinees will develop the syndrome, then 1 in 20 million will experience some kind of long-term effects and less than 1 in 10,000 million will die from Guillain-Barre. This, compared to the XNUMX in XNUMX chance of dying from the flu itself. That means there are several orders of magnitude difference.

Now, protecting our children is a very important thing, but we have a natural tendency to ignore big risks that "we can't do anything about" and intensify small risks over which we have control. According to scientific research, vaccines are actually one of the safest things in medicine. This does not mean that they are risk-free at all and this is the point to which we treat them as anti-vaccinators. You have to take things in proportion, just think how many children die in car accidents every year, how many children are injured and die from sports clubs and no one is calling to ban swimming clubs just because a few children drown every year. In 1976, 50 people died in the USA as a result of the flu vaccine. In the US every year 50 people die because of the airbags in their cars. Will you remove the airbags? By the way, the same number of people are run over by cattle in the US every year, it's hard to believe that anyone would go against the cattle industry because of this.

Following the event of 1976, today in the USA all neurological doctors are obliged to report every new case of Gillian Bera in the event that if there is an increase in the chance of developing the syndrome following the vaccine we will know about it as soon as possible. However, no one expects such an increase, after all it has been 30 years of experience with flu vaccines since then, but monitoring is done just in case.

Opponents of vaccines jump on everything case the conspirator Inside Vaccination with another health event. Every day in the US 3000 people experience a heart attack, but if by chance a heart attack came a day after receiving a vaccine, the opponents of vaccines will link the cases. In fact, if they succeed in vaccinating half of the women in the US, 12,000 women will experience a spontaneous abortion in the 24 hours after the vaccination, and all this as part of the natural spontaneous abortion rate in the population. Before starting to panic about different cases that appear in the news, it is very important to know the background noise of each phenomenon before starting to connect events. As of the latest report on the vaccines for the H1N1 virus The vaccine Sure.

Fear factors in the components of the vaccine

Trimersol - only present in some flu vaccines. It contains mercury which is what causes the fear. Opponents of vaccines link mercury to the development of autism, but the research evidence does not show any such connection. In fact, since 2001 there are almost no vaccines that contain mercury, simply because the production methods have been perfected. The rate of autism in the population has not changed. The amounts of mercury that do remain in vaccines result from the vaccine preparation process and are biologically insignificant residues. To be precise, if you ate tuna you probably consumed more mercury than you would get from a vaccine containing trimersol.

When you want to vaccinate large populations quickly one of the methods is to add boosters to the vaccine. Thus, even a smaller amount of the vaccine will create the desired immune effect. In other words, the use of these substances allows vaccination of more people. These substances allow a good dissolution of a fatty substance in an aqueous solution. Among these materials can be found Squillin (squalene), aluminum and MF59.

The fear of squiline stems from research conducted on the anthrax vaccine during the Gulf War. In a test conducted after the vaccination, it was discovered that many participants had anti-squiline antibodies in their blood. The problems: 1. There was no squiline in that vaccine. 2. Squelin is one of the substances that participates in the production of cholesterol naturally in the body, so a large part of the population has antibodies to it. 3. Many food supplements in complementary medicine use squiline, as do cosmetics.

Herd immunity - just because you are young and healthy does not mean you will survive the flu. Young people died from it all over the world. But even if you don't think about yourself, think about the people around you who are not as healthy and strong as you. If you get vaccinated, and more young people get vaccinated, the virus will not be able to run amok in the population and thus your vaccine will protect the weaker people around you. Those who are not allowed to be vaccinated for health reasons (such as an allergy to eggs or a weakened immune system for example).

Public opinion in the world and in Israel is easily swayed. The media uses panic to sell, but we may yet regret it. In Canada, many people said they would not get vaccinated, but then a healthy 14-year-old hockey player died of swine flu and since then the supply has not met the demand. The token has fallen - we are all in the game. You can put your immune system in front of a test that it is not certain that it will pass or, for a much smaller risk, get vaccinated.

The record is based on a conversation conducted between four doctors belonging to the indicated site Science Based Medicine. The conversation was published under the podcast The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. The four doctors who participated in the conversation: Dr. Steven Novela, Dr. David Gorski, Dr. Joseph Elwitz and Dr. Mark Crislip.

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  1. This is the best text I've come across to date on the subject (I've gone through a lot) - a rare combination of relatively comprehensive info and a light and elegant presentation, like lentil dressing for the lobes of the brain. The day you want to get married, get in touch.

  2. Regarding the vaccination of doctors - here is information that seems more reasonable to me:
    http://flublog.co.il/2009/12/דוקטור-מה-דעתך-על-החיסון-נגד-שפעת-החזיר/
    I'm not saying that cost-benefit surveys don't exist, but they have no value compared to something that doesn't have such a survey.
    Do you know of something that the Ministry of Health knows will be more beneficial than the swine flu vaccine and it is avoiding doing it for political reasons?
    I am not here to defend this or that decision because I have no idea what those who made that decision faced.
    The point is that I simply do not know how to suggest another method and I find no point in steaming.

  3. Michael, to be honest, cost-benefit studies are not a rare thing and there are data regarding the relative benefit achieved by this or that investment in this or that field or venture.
    The information, at least in part, exists. The fact that it is not used for reasons of politics and eye problems is already a completely different issue.

    And as for the survey, here is a link to the article in Vint.
    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3813329,00.html

  4. Regarding the percentage of doctors who were vaccinated until two weeks ago - I will try to see if I can find a reliable source on the subject.
    As mentioned - it does not seem likely to me because all the doctors known to me and my wife have been vaccinated, but I will try to find something more qualified.
    As for the optimization of the utilization of state funds - it does not exist in any field and there is no way to make it exist.
    Almost every expenditure of the state can be asked if it is the most suitable in terms of cost/benefit and I am quite sure that in almost every case the answer will be negative.
    The idea in representative democracy is that over time things sort of work out despite this and in the compromise between optimizing the decisions and making decisions in time we don't have a better solution.

  5. As far as I remember, the figure was updated about two weeks ago, so the medical staff had more than enough time to get vaccinated and in some cases they did so (the differences between the hospitals were very large).

    Beyond that, the money for the vaccines was a special budget that was taken "out of nowhere" and did not come from the Ministry of Health's budget. (Even if the reality were different, the order of priorities is a dirty word, and it seems that every month we hear about how money is taken from the health institutions and transferred to security or another government agenda)
    It is true that vaccinations can be provided overnight, but I can expect a government to be a little more responsible and think not only about "how to spend NIS 500 million in the shortest possible time". These are also about the long term and how the 500 million shekels can be marketed so that they yield the highest output and this after an orderly process of decision-making and not following populist consideration or pressure from a hysterical doubting public.

    If we ask ourselves the question "how to reduce the mortality from the swine flu" it is possible that the investment of 500 million in vaccines is the best investment. But if we ask ourselves the right question and that is "how do we reduce the spread of diseases in the population and the death rate from them" there is no doubt that investing in this specific vaccine is the smartest investment.

    I'm not against the swine flu vaccine, but I doubt it's a good investment of public money.

  6. falcon.:
    I wonder when the figure about the doctors was published.
    This vaccine has not existed for such a long time and only today it was opened to the entire population.
    If you caught a snapshot in the middle of the process it doesn't say anything.
    There is no chance that the budgets of the health institutions will be allocated to the prevention of traffic accidents and there is no possibility of increasing the staff of doctors from one day to the next.
    It is possible to stock up on vaccines from day to day.

  7. Michael, the data on the proportion of doctors who were vaccinated against the flu was widely published in all the major newspapers. And apparently this is quite reliable information. Which only indicates that doctors are also human beings whose decision-making system is not always rational and includes additional parameters besides the available medical information.

    A point that raises an important issue that many choose to ignore is the cost-effectiveness ratio of the swine flu vaccine and the resources invested in its development compared to other risk factors in our lives.
    A point does not mean that the vaccine is bad, those who do invest the money and effort in other areas (such as reducing air pollution which is responsible for over 1000 deaths in Gush Dan alone or recruiting additional personnel in hospitals so that doctors and nurses have time to wash their hands and reduce the chance of transmitting diseases from a patient to the patient) a much greater benefit could be achieved in terms of human life and quality of life. And this is true not only for swine flu, but for many other areas driven by ignorance, naivety, populism, greed and other irrelevant motives.

    The writer has been vaccinated against swine flu and common flu.

  8. point:
    What is this weird conspiracy theory?
    Do you think that all the doctors in all the hospitals and clinics are complicit in the conspiracy and profiting from it?
    This is unbelievable nonsense!
    My wife is a doctor and I can say from the knowledge that all the doctors I know (and I know a lot) have been vaccinated so that all of Eran's rant about a third of the doctors seems to have no basis.

  9. Nahum, the issue is not what is the maximum disability that should be preferred over death.
    The issue is that we continue to drive and the attitude we give to the danger of driving in general is much smaller in relation than to the brainwashing and intimidation caused by those with vested interests there in the Ministry of Health regarding the swine flu. This is the point I wanted to clarify and I hope it is clear.

  10. Point: if you so much prefer to die, maybe kill yourself and that's it? My life is worth enough for me to want to continue living even if, God forbid, I get moderately or even seriously injured. Also, with high awareness and taking reasonable precautions, my chances of getting hurt in a car accident can be significantly reduced, and I do.

  11. And about the figure of road accidents. Every day 1.5 die, 10 are seriously injured (it is better to die), and 100 moderately (it is also better to die).

  12. You are contradicting yourself.
    If from normal flu only 7 thousandths of a percent die a year, and from swine flu not even 2 thousandths of a percent.
    So there's nothing to worry about and you don't need to get vaccinated just like that, they're working on us.
    If everyone adds one carrot to their daily menu, it will increase the quality of their health by far more than a few thousandths of a percent.

  13. I am more interested that if such a vaccine is not dangerous, then why is there a specific clause in the contract they signed with the company that developed the vaccine for us, as published, that the company will not be responsible for diseases caused as a side effect of the vaccine, including disabilities.
    Also...why did only a third of the medical staff in Israel barely take the vaccine?

  14. Ron, I assume that the figures you provided here are correct, as is the figure that I have no idea where to get it, that there has been warming for eight years now, while four of them are among the ten warmest years in recorded history.
    You just have to take your arguments that you assume are facts with a grain of salt.

  15. I would recommend you to publish the article on other sites as well in order to increase awareness because I don't think there are many people who know the information you brought here.

    Well done 🙂

  16. Oh, what one-sidedness.
    Lotem Eliyahu - It seems that you will not have the opportunity to hear the opposing side in a professional manner.

    Otherwise you wouldn't be so determined.

    Here's the truth about the flu shot and its harm.
    Talk of brave scientists who bring facts and only facts
    Discussion between
    Dr. Bill Diggle, infectious disease doctor and government bacteriologist in the past, USA
    Dr. Chris Shaw, neuroscientist from UBC University, Canada
    and Alexander S. Jones formerly of the NIH
    National Institutes of Health

    There is no need to download the file - it costs Streaming

    http://www.archive.org/download/NutrimedicalReport-Dr.DeagleWithDr.ChrisShawTimAlexanderAnd/NutrimedicalReport-Dr.DeagleWithDr.ChrisShawTimAlexanderAnd_vbr.m3u

    And in Hebrew
    You are probably familiar with the letter against swine flu vaccines by Dr. Daisy Stern
    that the Ministry of Health issued an official response letter from Prof. Engelhardt

    And now there is a response letter to the response from a Hasson site

    http://www.hisunim.com/articles/Hasson_Position_re_Engelhard_Letter_to_Daisy2.pdf

    It would add to the credibility of the material if you talked about the mutated virus in Ukraine
    and hospitalized over 130,000 patients in the eastern part of the country
    And he is aggressive
    The vaccines are not effective and he has already become immune to Tamiflu

    https://www.hayadan.org.il/flu-threat-0412094/#comment-256192

  17. It's really time for someone to sort out all the mistakes and disinformation circulating in the public and the media.

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