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One percent of humanity

Human DNA is almost 99% identical to that of the chimpanzee. Which regions of the genome are included in the one percent that makes us human, what are they responsible for and why exactly did they develop differently? And how is it that so little genetic material causes the formation of so many different species?

A chimpanzee walks. Photo: Yonat Ashhar
A chimpanzee walks. Photo: Yonat Ashhar

By: Catherine S. Pollard, Scientific American

Six years ago I had the opportunity to join an international team that was involved in identifying base sequences or DNA "letters" in the genome of the chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes). As a biostatistician who has been interested in human origins for a long time, I wanted to compare the human DNA sequence to that of the animal closest to us today and find the differences.

The result filled me with humility: it turned out that the human DNA is almost 99% identical to that of the chimpanzee. In other words, of the three billion letters that make up the human genome, only 15 million, that is, less than 1%, have changed in the 6 million years since humans and chimpanzees parted ways.

According to the theory of evolution, most of these changes hardly affected our biology, and yet - among the 15 million bases that changed lies the difference between us and the chimpanzees. I was determined to find them. Since then my colleagues and I have made considerable progress in identifying some of the DNA sequences that make us human.

An early surprise

The millions of bases in question constitute only a small proportion of the total genetic load, but their number is still enormous. To make the search easier, I wrote software that will scan the human genome and locate in it the pieces of DNA that have undergone the greatest change since the human and chimpanzee species split from their common ancestor.

Since, for the most part, random genetic mutations are neither harmful nor beneficial to the organism, they accumulate at a uniform rate that reflects the amount of time that has passed since two biological species separated from their common ancestor (many call this rate the "ticking of the molecular clock"). But an accelerated rate of change in a certain region of the genome is a clear sign of positive selection, that is, a situation where a mutation that helps a certain species survive and reproduce has a higher chance of being passed on to future generations. Or in other words, it is likely that the parts of the genome that have changed to a greater extent since the human species and chimpanzees separated are the ones that have shaped man the most.

In November 2004, after months of tweaking and improving the software so that it could run on a large computer cluster at the University of California, Santa Cruz, I finally obtained a file that ranked the sequences that had undergone accelerated change. My instructor, David Hausler, was standing behind me looking at the results, as my eyes rested on the sequence that appeared at the top of the list. It was a 118-base segment known as human accelerated region 1 (HAR1). When I discovered this I looked up what HAR1 was with the University's Genome Browser, a visual tool that uses information found in public databases.

The browser displayed the human HAR1 sequence as well as the same sequence in the chimpanzee, mouse, rat and chicken, all vertebrates whose genomes had already been deciphered by then. It also turned out that in two large scanning experiments, HAR1 activity was detected in two human brain samples, but the scientists had not yet studied the sequence or given it a name. "Giant!" We shouted in perfect coordination, when we realized that the HAR1 sequence may turn out to be part of an active shield in the brain that has not yet been studied.

We won the whole jackpot. It is known that the human brain is very different from the chimpanzee brain, among other things in its size, arrangement and complexity. But the evolutionary and developmental mechanisms that distinguish the human brain have not yet been properly understood. The HAR1 sequence may have shed light on this mysterious facet of human biology.

We spent the next year trying to learn as much as we could about the evolutionary history of the HAR1 sequence by comparing this region of the genome in several species, including 12 other vertebrates whose genomes were mapped at the time.

It soon became clear that until humans appeared, the HAR1 sequence evolved very slowly. There is a difference of only two bases between this sequence in the chicken and that of the chimpanzee, two species whose evolutionary paths diverged about 300 million years ago, in contrast, there is a difference of 18 bases between the human and the chimpanzee, whose paths diverged much less recently. The very fact that the HAR1 sequence remained frozen for hundreds of millions of years shows the importance of its role, and the fact that this sequence underwent a sudden change in humans points to a serious turn that occurred in this role during human development.

In 2005 we got a big hint as to the role of the HAR1 sequence in the brain, when my colleague Pierre van der Hagen from the Free University of Brussels received a test tube of HAR1 copies from our laboratory while visiting Santa Cruz. Using these DNA sequences, he genetically engineered a fluorescent molecular marker that emits light when the HAR1 sequence is activated in living cells, that is, when it is transcribed from DNA to RNA (RNA).

When typical genes are activated in a cell, the first thing the cell makes is a mobile copy of a messenger RNA, and then uses that RNA as a template to make the protein it needs at that moment. Thanks to the fluorescent marking, it was discovered that the HAR1 sequence is active in a type of nerve cells that play an important role in creating patterns and organization during the development phase of the cerebral cortex - the wrinkled outer layer of the brain. When these neurons do not function properly, a serious and even fatal congenital disorder develops: smooth brain syndrome, in which the cerebral cortex lacks its characteristic folds, so that its surface area is much smaller. Dysfunction of these nerve cells is also associated with schizophrenia in adults.

It therefore turns out that the HAR1 sequence is active at exactly the time and place that make it an essential component in the development of a healthy cerebral cortex (other evidence points to an additional role of the sequence in sperm production). However, my colleagues and I have not yet been able to understand exactly how this part of the genetic code affects the development of the cerebral cortex. We have good reason to engage in this with full vigor: it is possible that the burst of changes that has recently hit the sequence has changed our minds considerably.

Clues in language
When we compared whole genomes of other species we were also able to understand why humans are so different from chimpanzees, despite the great similarity between their genomes. In recent years, the genomes of thousands of species (mostly microorganisms) have been mapped. It turns out that the location of the substitutions of bases in DNA is much more important than the number of substitutions in any genome. In other words, you don't need to change many details in the genome to get a new species. The path to the development of man from the common ancestor to man and chimpanzee did not require the speeding up of the entire molecular clock, but rather the creation of rapid changes in areas that would lead to a noticeable difference in the functioning of the organism.

The HAR1 sequence is certainly such a region. So did the FOXP2 gene, in which I identified another rapidly changing sequence. Researchers from the University of Oxford in England discovered that this sequence is related to speech. In 2001, they reported that humans suffering from a mutation in this gene are unable to make the subtle and rapid facial movements necessary for speech, even though they possess the cognitive ability needed to process language.

There are several differences in the typical human sequence compared to the same sequence in the chimpanzee: two base substitutions that changed the protein that the gene encodes, and many more substitutions that probably led to a change in the way, when and where the human body uses this protein.

We also recently discovered when the version of the FOXP2 gene that enables speech first appeared in hominids. In 2007, scientists at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, mapped the FOXP2 gene isolated from a fossil of a Neanderthal man and found that in this extinct human species the gene had already appeared in its modern version, in a way that perhaps allowed him to pronounce words like us.

Estimates of the date of separation of the human and Neanderthal lineages show that the modern version of the FOXP2 gene appeared at least half a million years ago. But the main difference between human language and vocal communication among other species lies not in physical structure, but in cognitive ability, which is often related to brain size. The brains of primates are often larger than expected based on their body size, but the volume of the human brain has increased more than threefold since the time of the common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees. Geneticists are only now beginning to understand this sudden growth.

An example of a gene responsible for brain size in humans and other animals, and which has already been studied in depth, is the ASPM gene. Genetic tests conducted among people with microcephaly, a disease in which the brain is 70% smaller than normal, revealed that the ASPM gene, as well as three other genes: MCPH1, CDK5RAP2 and CENPJ, control brain size.

Recently, researchers at the University of Chicago and the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor have even demonstrated that the ASPM gene underwent several bursts of variation during primate evolution, a pattern indicating positive selection. At least one of these bursts of change occurred in the human lineage after it split from the chimpanzee, so it is possible that it served as an important component in the development of our great brain.

There are other regions of the genome that may have influenced the development of the human brain less directly. The same computer scan that led to the identification of the HAR1 sequence also found 201 other regions whose variation was accelerated in humans, most of which do not code for proteins or even RNA (a parallel study to ours, conducted at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in Cambridge, England, discovered many of the same HAR sequences). These are control sequences that tell the genes when to act.

Surprisingly, more than half of the genes located near those HAR sequences are involved in the development and function of the brain. And as happens with the FOXP2 gene, the products of these genes also participate in the control of other genes. So, despite the relatively small portion of HAR sequences in the entire genome, the mutations that occurred in them could have brought about a profound change in the human brain by influencing the activity of entire gene networks.

Beyond the mind

A lot of effort has been invested in studying the evolution of our sophisticated mind, but there are also scientists who study the development of other aspects of the human body. The HAR2 sequence, a gene control region that ranks second in the list of sequences whose development has been accelerated, is a good example of this.

In 2008, researchers from the American Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory compared the human version of the HAR2 sequence (also known as HACNS1) and a version found in non-human primates. They demonstrated that differences in certain bases allow this sequence to activate genes in the wrist and thumb region during embryonic development, as opposed to an older version present in other primates. This finding is particularly exciting, because it may explain the formal changes that have occurred in the human hand, which allow us to use our hands for the production and use of sophisticated tools.

Besides structural changes, our ancestors also experienced behavioral and physical changes that helped them adapt to different conditions and migrate to new environments. The beginning of the use of fire more than a million years ago, for example, as well as the agricultural revolution 10,000 years ago, allowed us greater access to starchy foods. But cultural changes are not enough to allow us to utilize such energy-rich foods. Our ancestors had to adapt to the new diet also genetically.

A well-known example of this is provided by the changes in the AMY1 gene, which encodes the production of amylase, an enzyme that helps digest starch, in the salivary glands. Multiple copies of this gene appear in the DNA of mammals, and the number of copies varies from species to species and even between different humans. But in general, humans have especially many copies of this gene compared to other primates. Geneticists from the University of Arizona discovered in 2007 that the saliva of people who carry more copies of AMY1 contains more starch, so they can digest more starch. It therefore seems that the evolution of the AMY1 gene is related both to the number of copies of the gene and to specific changes in its DNA sequence.

Another well-known example of nutritional adaptation is related to the gene encoding lactase (LCT), an enzyme that allows mammals to digest lactose, a carbohydrate known as "milk sugar". In most mammalian species, only weanlings are able to digest lactose. But about 9,000 years ago, not long ago in evolutionary terms, changes in the human genome created versions of the LCT gene that also allow adults to digest lactose.

The changes in the LCT gene developed separately in Europe and Africa, and allowed the carriers of the gene in its new version to digest dairy products from domesticated sheep and cattle. Today, the descendants of these ancient shepherds have a greater chance of being able to digest lactose compared to adults who come from other parts of the world, such as Asia and South America, where many suffer from sensitivity to milk because the ancient version of the gene still exists in their bodies.

It is known that the LCT gene continues to develop in humans today, but it is not the only one. In the chimpanzee genome project, we were able to identify 15 additional genes that are currently in the process of moving away from the version that worked well in our ape ancestors and other mammals, but in modern humans is associated with diseases such as Alzheimer's and cancer.

Some of these diseases affect only humans, or occur in humans at a higher rate than in other primates. Scientists are currently investigating the functions in which these genes are involved, and trying to understand why their ancient versions are involved in human disorders. These studies could help doctors identify patients who are at a higher risk of developing these deadly diseases, hopefully leading to a cure for the plague as well as discovering new treatments for them.

To her and a thorn in her

Man, like any biological species, has always defended himself against diseases in order to pass on his genetic load. Particularly clear evidence of this struggle is found in the immune system. When researchers look for positive selection in the human genome, the most obvious candidates are vaccine-related genes. It is no wonder that evolution is so busy improving these genes: in the absence of antibiotics and vaccines, it is likely that the obstacle that an individual will face trying to transfer his genetic load to the next generation is a deadly infection that could harm him before the end of his fertile years.

Another factor that accelerates the development of the immune system is the adaptation of the disease agents themselves to it, which leads to an evolutionary arms race between microorganisms and the animals that suffer from them.

These struggles leave their mark on our DNA. This is especially true for retroviruses, such as the AIDS virus, HIV, which survive and multiply by inserting their genetic material into our DNA. The human genome is multiplied by dozens of copies of short retroviral DNA, many of which belong to viruses that caused diseases millions of years ago and that no longer exist.

Over time, the retroviral sequences accumulate random mutations, just like any other sequence, so that the resulting different copies are similar, but not identical. If we check the degree of variation between the copies, we can use the molecular clock technique to date the original retroviral infection. The scars left by these ancient infections can also be seen in the genes of our immune system, which have had to change frequently to adapt to combat the ever-changing retrovirus.

The PtERV1 virus is one such ancient found species. In modern man, a protein called TRIM5α is used to prevent the retrovirus PtERV1 and its like from growing. The genetic evidence indicates that chimpanzees, gorillas and prehistoric humans suffered from the PtERV1 plague that hit Africa four million years ago.

To understand how different primates reacted to this virus, researchers at the Fred Chinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle used the many copies of PtERV1 that underwent random mutations in the chimpanzee genome to reconstruct the original genetic sequence and recreate the ancient retrovirus. They then performed experiments to determine how successfully the TRIM5α gene could limit the activity of the resurrected virus.

Their results show that one change in the human TRIM5α gene likely allowed our ancestors to fight the PtERV1 virus more successfully than our primate cousins ​​(it is possible that other changes in the human TRIM5α gene evolved in response to similar retroviruses). In other primates, other changes in the TRIM5α gene appear, in a way that probably reflects the struggles in which their own ancestors defeated the virus.

Defeating one type of retrovirus does not necessarily guarantee success in the fight against other retroviruses. Although the mutations in the TRIM5α gene helped us survive the PtERV1 plague, the same mutations make it really difficult for us to fight the AIDS virus. This finding helps researchers understand why HIV causes AIDS in humans, but not in other primates. If so, it turns out that evolution can go one step forward and two steps back, and the same is true in scientific research. We have identified many exciting candidates for explaining the genetic basis of unique human traits, but in most cases we know only the most basic facts about these genetic sequences. The gaps in our knowledge are particularly deep in non-protein coding regions such as HAR1 and HAR2.

These sequences, which are unique to humans and develop in an accelerated manner, outline the way for further research. The plot of the process of us becoming human will probably not focus on our building blocks, the proteins, but on the new way in which evolution assembled these building blocks in the body by creating permutations in the timing of the activation of various genes. Experimental and computational studies are currently being conducted in thousands of laboratories around the world, and promise to clarify for us what is happening in that percentage of the genome, which distinguishes us from chimpanzees.

Catherine S. Pollard is a biostatistician at the University of California, San Francisco. The full article was published in Scientific American magazine - Israel

How is man different?

  • The sequence HAR1 - active in the brain, probably having a decisive role in the development of the cerebral cortex, an especially large organ in humans. Probably also related to sperm production
  • The sequence FOXP2 - helps in pronouncing words, thus enabling speech in the modern man
  • The sequence AMY1 – helps digest starch, which probably helped early humans to use new types of food
  • The HAR2 sequence - activates genes that control the development of the wrist and thumb, in such a way that it is probably possible for the human hand to produce and use sophisticated tools
  • The LCT sequence - enables the digestion of lactose in adults, thus raising the milk products from sheep and cattle to the status of a basic food

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  1. Eyal:
    I think you are really wrong about a lot of things, but I have enough of the ultra-Orthodox on my mind and I don't want to argue with you either.
    I said that ignoring my words and making repeated claims that were hidden is a violent way based on lies to exhaust the opponent.
    I don't feel any need to respect those who use it.

    I am sure that Yael is wrong and that you are wrong in your attempt to defend the claim that there is no one truth and I am asking you if you are defending it because it is the one truth in your opinion.

    If not - then there is no reason for you to argue with me.
    My truth is that there is only one truth and you have to respect it.

  2. Michael,

    Just saying that these discussions about religion are indeed tiring. As stated in response 5 - it's a real shame that even before anyone had time to respond to the article, they come and destroy the chances of an interesting and factual discussion. As I wrote before, in my personal opinion, this is a fascinating topic, and it would be a shame to interrupt a discussion on it, before it even started. So in previous times it was the religious ones, and now it's you and a dot who immediately jump on the subject of religion. what's wrong with that

    Surach is the above-mentioned situation in which you have established an offensive war position against anyone who involves religion here to the point of shooting in the dark. No one here attacked us except for the point that he did it of course as a hangman, and that's a shame too.

    In fact, the first four comments were written by two parties, and both of them are on the same side...really a devious attempt to start a "discussion" on the subject of religion. And you know that, but you still decided to add fuel to the rickety fire and this under the guise of someone who is not interested in entering into such a discussion. Immediately in your first comment (8) you made such a transparent transition. This is unacceptable.

    Regarding the "scary", you can simply not enter into the debate if you are so tired of throwing claims in front of him that it is not impossible to respond to the matter as you say. But if you still decided to do so, then why with a lack of seriousness and proper respect in general and on the science site in particular? You may not notice, but when it comes to religion and God (which is becoming more and more frequent), your responses start to take on an aggressive "YNET-y" look. In the end I will carefully walk a tightrope and refer to the content of his words for a moment: the "scary" commenter says something that is not scary and asks not to generalize entire groups of people and specifies nicely. You, on the other hand, choose to respond in a fearful way that negates the importance of avoiding the inclusion of a group of people. This is the important content for me right now. Content of attitude and not of opinion.

    And now for the sake of full disclosure, regarding the opinionated content, I am "on your side" if you will. I am not religious and I am selfish and often resent the ultra-Orthodox community. So in the end I tend to agree with your opinions...except for your response to Yael Petar. It seems to me that since you try not to agree with the stranger's words, it turned out that you did not agree to talk about Yael's words even though at other times you would have agreed. And I will detail (in reference only to the news on the subject as far as I'm concerned):

    Is there really one and only truth for our world? do you have a proof? I think that several discussions were held here on this topic as well, which resulted directly from articles on the subject. My personal opinion? We are just a worm in a human world, or just a still world. It doesn't matter, we're just not "perfect". It is not difficult to perceive that we cannot perceive everything. What to do, we are limited. The only thing that can be done in the way of a more accurate description of "the truth" is to keep looking. And yet, nothing can assure us that the search and findings are in the right direction. Nothing can assure us that there is one right direction. Nothing can assure us that there is a right direction at all. Did you speak the truth? You talked about philosophy. I, on the other hand, tend to agree with everything Yael Petar said. Science, which you admire, has never claimed to find the truth, but only to describe the world we live in (?) in a better way - one that will allow us to go further in our ability as a species, or one that will give us the feeling that we are making progress in building the puzzle. As soon as you say that science strives for one indisputable truth, it is no longer science.

    And one last thing - when you say that there is one truth, not only do you not belong to the scientific school, but you are moving to a generation in one submission with all your believing "enemies" of all kinds. All of these have one common denominator: they believe...that there is only one truth. And wonder and wonder, if you go back and look objectively (I doubt you can) at the previous discussions on the subject of religion, you can easily see (if you don't get blinded in the process) a terrible war that is happening there. The irony is that you yourself claimed that religions caused or fueled all past wars. And here, as I said, you made yourself part of a group with the aforementioned common denominator, and thereby trained yourself to be the other side in the war, because war needs two.

    I say - (and of course not making it up) truth is a subjective thing. My truth is not your truth. Everyone has their own truth. Your truth, Michael, is the truth you say is not yours, because you say it exists. Therefore, your truth is that there is one truth that science is investigating and revealing little by little. It's just your truth.

    And this is the scary thing: when a person claims that there is only one truth. It only takes one more person to claim that, and war becomes inevitable.

  3. Since the discussion keeps drifting into religious issues, I will try to bring it back to the fold and raise a question that directly relates to the article:

    And a question addressed to those who are familiar with the subject:

    1. Are there any studies from recent years dealing with "JUNK DNA"?
    2. Are there studies that compare these regions between humans and monkeys over others, compared to the known "coded" regions?

    Hanan Sabat
    http://WWW.EURA.ORG.IL

  4. Eyal A:
    Just one more thing.
    I still don't understand which calf he's talking about (his answer didn't help either because the link he's talking about doesn't have any calf).
    What, in your opinion, "bursts out" from me asking what he is talking about?

  5. Eyal A:
    You did not understand me.
    I will not take back my identity because Syria does not exist.
    Going back and referring to comments is also tiring - sometimes more than rewriting them - because you also have to find them.
    When it comes to an argument with a person who I know has already seen the things dozens of times, there is no need for it because it is clear that the person is simply lying by ignoring them.

  6. Michael,

    When will you come back from Saruch? You can no longer hide your feelings. They erupt from almost every response of yours.

    Even if you decided to write for a discussion about for/against religion instead of a factual discussion about the topic of the article, you can still do it in a matter-of-fact and serious way, which means not to underestimate your fellow debaters. And no, in the current discussion no one underestimated you, just to be clear. And if you're tired of rewriting your arguments that you've already written in previous discussions, it's fine to refer to them, but do you have to attack on the way? What further discussion do you expect afterwards? If you don't want to continue, then just leave it aside and respond to the body of the article. And so I will do the same and I will not join the recycled discussion of pro/against religion, which I do not usually join.

    I find the topic of the article fascinating.
    In my eyes, the finding about an epidemic that struck our ancestors from 4 million years ago is amazing. How by looking at the genetic code which is based on a total of four "letters", and massive use of computers, it is possible to locate such an event in history. An event that is simply engraved in our blood for millions of years. It is also amazing that there are remnants in the material that makes us up of viruses that harmed our ancestors in the distant past and that no longer exist. A simply fascinating industry.

  7. Scary:
    I will thank you and not be ashamed:
    You are really scary.
    Just for the sake of factual accuracy (because I have already seen that there is no point in talking to you about logic) I was born and raised in a religious home and I know the religion well.

  8. The haberach is part of the link you sent me in your previous message and regarding the latest link you gave me I must say that it is really stupid and similar to a lot of arguments "in the air" of atheists.
    And yet I will explain myself again:
    If what words did you disagree with exactly??
    If it is religious are free people? If it is that the religion works on faith and not on evidence??
    After all, you yourself say that there is no evidence for religion, so according to your opinion, how can religion act on evidence and still have so many believers in the world. And it really doesn't seem to me that you think that all religious people are retarded and primitive people, and if you do think so, then I'm really sad for you.
    I really think you have no idea about the religious if you really think so.
    Maybe you are imitating your ancestors who thought everything about religion.
    Do an experiment and live in the religious society for a week, just a week will be enough. Unlike you, I live in a city where 85 percent are secular, I just wanted to say because I'm sure you'll claim that I live in a religious bubble and I'm a settler.
    have a good week.

  9. By the way, scary:
    What kind of cow are you even talking about?
    What will I bless and what will be blessed?

  10. Just add
    Religion works on faith and not on evidence, I know this is a problem for many science readers to understand.
    There are those in ultra-Orthodox society who find virtues and reasons for their religious actions
    But as someone who doesn't live in ultra-Orthodox society, I can tell you that there are so many abrakhs or don't know what they call themselves, and you don't have to listen to everyone, just like I wouldn't go to a 10-year-old son and his words prove that secularism is a wrong way of life
    It's just stupid to take an example from one case, especially a non-representative case.

  11. To Michael: Religion really has nothing to do with imitation
    The fact that Avrach says things does not represent the rule
    Really religious people don't do it because their father did it
    I'm sorry you think so.
    I say my words not out of hatred or cynicism and I am not a missionary
    Do you really think that all religious people are people without reason and intelligence?? Do they have no logic to their actions?
    Religious are religious because they learn it every day
    Perhaps the Habarach's explanation was correct in the 19th century, today we live in a free society or at least those of us who do not live in an ultra-orthodox society have the choice to do what we want.

  12. A question for those who are familiar with the subject:

    1. Are there any studies from recent years dealing with "JUNK DNA"?
    2. Are there studies that compare these regions between humans and monkeys over others, compared to the known "coded" regions?

    Hanan Sabat
    http://WWW.EURA.ORG.IL

  13. and regarding the article,
    Research should be done on where this percentage of humanity is expressed.

  14. The concept of truth is not well defined. I prefer to leave it to the realm of logic where sentences are true or false.
    In ordinary life you can say what you know, what you think is reasonable to think, or what you believe. The concept of truth does not connect to everyday life. This is my opinion.

  15. Those who define themselves as "seeking truth" or as "free" or whatever you want to call yourself
    Don't dismiss things without really delving into them and researching them
    I promise you a point and Michael that with a little investigation you will understand things in depth
    I'm not ultra-orthodox and I'm not a rabbi, but sometimes I see comments here that are simply irrelevant
    I guess we're all civilized here, so a little restraint (yes, that's a very hard word) won't hurt.

  16. Can you stop with the anti-religion please again
    Even if someone religious started it and even if not it's just disgusting to see
    Maybe I'm speaking for myself, but in my opinion, the vast majority of people who write here don't care one bit about the personal opinions of someone here about religion, life in general.
    Just read the article and respond accordingly and that's it
    Enough already with all the anti on both sides

  17. Yael:
    I will not prolong the debate here because it is not the topic of the article but I do not get anything from your words.
    There is only one truth and it is not my truth.
    The scientific theories (which do improve gradually because they are not perfect) are not science but its fruits and the basic question is what are the ways to reach the truth. Science has a true answer to this question and religions have a false answer.
    I've talked about it enough on other occasions and I've read enough of your comments to know you won't agree with it.

  18. Your truth is the truth developed from the scientific school according to the scientific method and is valid within the limits of this profession, but is not an absolute thing.
    Another person's truth can mean that there is a higher power, and this is also not an absolute truth that can be proven.
    That is, there is no possibility to come and say who is right.

    Science is a dynamic thing that does not even pretend to reach absolute truth. Yesterday you believed in a certain science that told you, for example, that the Earth is at the center of the universe. Today you believe in another science that claims that Earth is not the center of the universe and that the term "center of the universe" has no meaning at all. And maybe tomorrow science will make you believe in something else.
    Anyone who comes and claims to have the one truth is neither a scientist nor a physicist.

    And I will mention Yom's problem of induction, and the logical refutations argument of Popper and his colleagues. And of course I'll send you to look at the "Philosophy of Science" entry on Wikipedia.

    There are academic articles and theses that claim to refute all the cornerstones of mathematics or logic. So what does it mean that science is wrong? Are the splashes wrong? No. You just have to take things in proportion and try to look at everything from an objective and non-emotional point of view.

  19. Neither creationism nor Darwinism

    All the explanations

    Robert Sofer in an interview with Fox News 8 minute clip.
    youtube.com/watch?v=0qkJUh3s7kc

  20. I also think that one should not start a discussion about religion when it has nothing to do with the article itself.
    Usually (almost always) this is done by religious people who bring religious arguments as a (ridiculous) substitute for scientific arguments.
    This time, admittedly, made it a point.
    But if we have already started talking about it, then I do not agree with a point because religion is the source of most of the troubles of the human race and mocking will not help the doctors in Hadassah and will not equalize the distribution of the burden of security and the economy.
    I certainly do not agree with Yael because the purpose of science is to discover the truth and the purpose of religion is to dictate it (this is in the realm of truth - the only realm in which science deals but, as I said, religion also deals with morality and corrupts it beyond recognition).

  21. Agree with response 5.
    All in all, science and religion have common points and similar goals, so it is not clear where all the hatred comes from.

  22. To the point: very funny!
    There is so much hatred on this site for religion and on the other hand also for secularism
    It's really annoying to open an article and instead of seeing factual comments, you only see hateful comments against/for religion.
    Respond appropriately

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