More answers to the movie and the nonsense spread on TV and on the Internet concerning Nibiru and the Mayan calendar. Compiled by the writers of the website Dr. Moshe Nachmani and Yael Petar
NASA joins the fight against the vanities of the movie "2012"
Dr. Moshe Nahamani
Don Yeomans, director of the Office of Near-Earth Objects at NASA, produced a video and wrote an article providing the scientific truths surrounding the celestial occurrences depicted in the disaster movie "2012". The scientist did a wonderful job in his explanations regarding what should and especially should not happen in 2012.
And these are the words of the researcher:
"Naturally, there is a lot of interest in celestial objects, their exact location and the paths of their movements at the end of 2012. I, personally, love a good book or movie, just like anyone else. However, the things that circulate to them in the computer space, on television and in the cinema are not based on science. Therefore - here is the scientific truth regarding the celestial events that are supposed to arrive in 2012:
1. Nibiru, which claims to be a large object whose face is headed towards the Earth - simply does not exist. There is no reliable evidence - telescopic or otherwise - for the existence of this object. Additionally, there is no evidence of any kind for any gravitational effects it has on other objects in our solar system. I, however, like the name Nibiru - if I ever had a goldfish at home that name would be at the top of my list.
2. The Mayan calendar does not end in December 2012 - just as the calendar hanging in your kitchen or office will not stop existing after the thirty-first of December, the Mayan calendar does not end on the twenty-first of December 2012. This date is the end of a long counting period Mayan years, however, after that, just as your calendar starts again on January XNUMXst - another Mayan counting period begins.
3. There are no reliable predictions regarding worrisome astronomical events for 2012. The sun's activity is cyclical and has a duration of approximately eleven years, and the next period of solar maximum (the period of time when the sun's activity is maximum) is expected to occur in the years 2010-2012. However, the Earth has experienced this occurrence of cycles of increased solar activity routinely for generations upon generations - without any dangerous effects on us. The Earth's magnetic field, which deflects charged particles originating from the Sun, does reverse its polarity on a time scale of four hundred thousand years, but there is no evidence that this reversal, which lasts thousands of years, will begin in 2012. Even if this magnetic field reversal, which lasts Several thousand years, will begin in 2012 - this will not affect the rotation of the Earth or its axis of rotation.
4. The important gravitational effects on the Earth come only from the Moon and the Sun. No alignment of stars is expected in the coming decades, the Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these events do occur, their effects on the Earth are completely negligible. Every December the Earth and the Sun align with the center point of the Milky Way galaxy, but this is a seasonal, one-year occurrence that has no effect on the Earth.
In conclusion - the prophecies regarding the Judgment Day or dramatic changes that will occur on 21.12.2012 are all false. False prophecies of wrath have already been circulated several times in each of the past centuries. Readers should remember the words of Carl Sagan, the American astronomer, from a few years ago: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
Regarding any claim about a disaster or dramatic changes that will come in 2012 - the burden of proof lies with the people who claim them. Where is the science? where is the evidence They are completely absent, and all the passionate, stubborn and utilitarian claims, whether they appear in books, movies, documentaries or on the Internet - cannot change this simple fact. 1
There is no reliable evidence for any of these allegations regarding unusual occurrences that took place in December 2012.
The article on the NASA website
What is going to happen on December 21, 2012? Is the world going to end on December 21, 2012 because of the Mayan calendar?
Yael Petar
Mayan ideas about time and calendars were very cyclical. This is similar to a huge calendar that spans thousands of years. For example: we have the 1st of January every year, we have the 7th of the month every month, we have the Tuesday every week, etc.
The Mayan calendar was a little more complex, so that each day in a 52-year cycle had a unique name that was made up of combining different cycles (similar to the idea that every 7 years January 1 falls on a Monday). This 52-year cycle is referred to by the Mayans as the calendar circle. In order to anticipate longer dates, the Maya created a long-term calendar, which provides unique numerical indicators for each day. The Mayan numbers were not based on base 10, like our counting system, but mostly (though not always) on base 20. Therefore, the long-term Mayan calendar can be summarized as follows:
#days Mayan count
1 1 kin
20 20 kin 1 uinal
360 360 kin 18 uinal 1 tun
7200 7200 kin 360 uinal 20 tun 1 kactun
144000 144000 kin 8000 uinal 400 tun 20 kactun 1 bactun
The word that describes a period for the Mayans is probably 13 bactuns, which is 13*144000 days or approximately 5125.26 years. There is uncertainty as to whether the Mayan cycle began on August 11 or 13, 3114 BC. This means that the cycle will end on December 21 or 23, 2012.
As noted above, the Mayan calendar was designed to be cyclical, so the fact that the long cycle ends in December 2012, apart from marking the end of the long cycle for the Mayans (much like marking the end of the millennium celebrations we had almost a decade ago), does not indicate an impending end of the world. Actually the Maya had names for periods longer than 13bactuns, so their calendar doesn't even end there, and even if it does it doesn't mean the end of the world.
For further reading on the subject on the science website:
- The end of the world will not come in 2012
- NASA's answers to 20 frequently asked questions regarding rumors about the expected events in 2012 and especially conspiracy theories
- 2012: No Planet X or Nibiru heading our way
- No comet threatens us. And is Google hiding the threat?
- 2012: Beware of websites pretending to be scientific to promote the movie of that name
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Orgdol, meaning - the Mayan calendar works in cycles just as the Gregorian calendar works in cycles. So when it ends, another counting period begins.
I don't know why they decided to use the calendar to count from August 11th or 13th, 3114 BC, but I don't believe it was because of their belief that the world was created on that date. We know about things that exist from several millions and billions of years ago, how is it possible that the world has only existed for 5126 years?
Gabi section 2 of the article..
2. The Mayan calendar does not end in December 2012 - just as the calendar hanging in your kitchen or office will not stop existing after the thirty-first of December, the Mayan calendar does not end on the twenty-first of December 2012. This date is the end of a long counting period Mayan years, however, after that, just as your calendar starts again on January XNUMXst - another Mayan counting period begins.
1. On the one hand the Mayan calendar does not end in December 2012, on the other hand it does end but at the end another counting period begins??
2. It is not possible to compare the Mayan calendar with the calendar we use today (the Gregorian) because in our calendar, at the end of the annual cycle, the days and months return to the beginning, but the year does not return with them and each year progresses, which preserves an eternal calendar, whereas the Mayan calendar returns All to the beginning like the days and months, so the year will be 1 again. And let's not forget that just as our calendar always marks the end of a certain era (end of a month, end of a year), so the Mayan calendar also marks the end of an era.
Don't underestimate the Mayans. Their world was indeed destroyed... by the Spanish... they didn't wait for 2012...
What nonsense can be deduced from ancient astronomers
Did they have the means to test the space systems?!
They made observations and drew proper conclusions according to the meager means they had, and that's when they had time to slaughter and sacrifice their prisoners, while uprooting their homes while they were still alive.
The real problems in our world is the tremendous withdrawal from the world of science and culture of the twentieth and current century, to religious and murderous fanaticism that prevailed in our world in the Middle Ages in Europe, and in the Arabian Peninsula 1500 years ago. Not that Hitler and Stalin were far behind Attila, or Genghis Khan, or the murderous princes of Europe or the fanatical Wahhabis of Islam.
Today the fanatical murderers have countries, armies, weapons and also atomic weapons [Pakistan, and God forbid Iran is also included].
The problem is the lukewarm political leadership in the democratic countries in the face of the dictators' aggressiveness and murder.
This is how Chamberlain and his French counterpart allowed the Nazis to invade the Saarland, Austria, the Sudetenland, the Czech Republic and, in fact, Poland as well before lifting a finger. As they omitted a reference to Germany's arming and the training it conducted in the USSR, with Stalin's approval.
A miracle happened to the cultural world in the form of Churchill, much too late
took up the loose reins in Britain.
[Here comes the same big question that Tolstoy raised: did Napoleon create history in his time, or did history raise Napoleon as a tool to realize its development...].
Israel also has a weak, hesitant leadership, which is engaged in petty internal politics and does not have a broad outlook, leadership and courage to face the real challenges before us.
The same is true in the Eurozone, which is only looking for peace and licking its economic wounds, and in the USA, which is bleeding in Iraq [which instead attacked Iran], Afghanistan and Pakistan, and is mainly busy with the election campaign.
The US imposed sanctions [withholding rubber, fuel and aluminum] on Japan and paid for it with a massacre of sailors at Pearl Harbor; it avoided helping in the war against the Nazis until they conquered all of Europe and became a great power.
The Americans allowed North Korea to accumulate nuclear weapons and now the US is afraid of it.
After all, in Iran, the Americans removed their protection from the Shah, their ally, and made Khomeini rise up, just as they did to their friend Mubarak in the [??] Arab Spring.
Today, the United States turns a blind eye to the exploits of Saudi Arabia, its ally, which spreads fanatical Islam in all the "madrasahs" it establishes in Europe, in the United States itself, in Asia and Africa, and by its financial support for various terrorist organizations.
Nothing changes. It is easier to betray a friend, and exploit a rising revolutionary force, and then the whole situation becomes many times worse, yes, including human rights in the betrayed countries. True, a corrupt ruler ruled in Cuba, but an ally of the US, but he was abandoned, like Noriaga in Panama. How does the same proverb say, which is also good for corrupt dictators: "God save me from my friends, I will deal with my enemies alone..." It seems that the USA is a painful example of such friendship.
Did I surf a bit? Maybe.
Please don't look at the sun and the stars - that's not where the trouble will come from, just as salvation won't hide from there either. You can't do anything about it either.
Guru and guard from human passions, from murderous fanatics and tyrants who rise to power. The end of the world is in the world. In the stockpiles of offensive, atomic, right-wing weapons, and in the evil heart of man.
And who knows what other tools of the devil.
The end of the world lies in blind and fearless leaders, narrow-minded.
If we want to prevent the end of the world - we must immediately fix the world. Humans have never had tools to bring about the end of the world. Today there is !! Yosef Eliaz
Lush, I agree with you…
Hello, when they said that in the year 2000, there will be the end of the world. Was it?!
And apart from the fact that they say that 2012 will come to an end because of the Mayan tribe, what does that have to do with it?!
The Mayan tribe offers to scare people,
Don't believe it people, it's nonsense in juice,
With that, it will happen for at least another 10,000 billion years,
Have a magical day (:
Avi Duani, I would be happy to receive the lecture you gave at the Super Consciousness conference a few days ago. If it is relevant, my email is: shaily11@walla.com Thanks in advance
Avi Duani:
In my response, the reference to the article appears as a link. If you want to read it - just click on the link and you will get to it.
The fact that the religious believe all kinds of nonsense does not make that nonsense a scientific tool and science should not be open to using nonsense as scientific tools.
And of course the conclusion that this is nonsense is also based on the examination of the information obtained in this way. Otherwise they wouldn't say it was nonsense.
Otherwise - no one would have risked a million dollars as a reward for whoever would see that it worked (and if they had risked the money anyway - the money would not have remained without a winner for fifty years)
Michael Rothschild
First, I would love to read your article on the subject, if you could send me the article, I would appreciate it
Regarding channeling in the Bible, there are many channels mentioned by Moses, for example, I assume that the religious population believes in this (I do not belong to the religious population)
The fact that science has come to the conclusion that it is not a tool is clear and evidently he does not use it. This is also the reason why I raised this issue.
In order to test this tool, it is necessary to examine the content of the received information and test it scientifically, and science will not be willing to try this because it has come to the conclusion that it is not a tool
Avi Duani:
Is it hard to understand what I asked?
You complain about us using existing tools and I ask you if you want us to use non-existent tools.
I repeat and suggest that if you give a positive answer to this question, you also explain to us how it is possible to use a tool that does not exist.
And to be clear - communication is not a tool and a tool does not exist.
already I devoted an article to the matter And there is no point in me repeating what I explained in it.
I also remind you that there is A million dollar prize offered by the Randy Foundation To anyone who will demonstrate a tie or any other nonsense.
This foundation has been open to the subject for nearly fifty years and scientists have always been open to it.
The only thing science is "closed" to is what doesn't work.
Mr. Duaney
Please, your next comments will be transferred here only with the help of a link, and not with the help of a keyboard, thank you.
Michiel Rothschild
Do you think for a moment that I am underestimating the tools that science has? Absolutely not true, we could not have reached what we are without science.
What I am trying to convey is that with the existing tools it is not possible to decipher all the secrets of the universe and therefore one should also be open to the things "linking, as mentioned, has never been discovered in this framework"
Avi Duani:
I understand that you really like what doesn't exist.
1. You complain that science only investigates existing tools and this means that you would prefer it to use non-existent tools as well. Can you suggest us a way to do this?
2. Science only knows how to investigate existing things. You also complain that he does not investigate things for which there is not even a shred of evidence of their existence. Are you also suggesting that he research the flying spaghetti monster?
3. Science is constantly trying to find evidence of phenomena that have not yet been observed. It is not called investigating them - it is an attempt to discover them. A connection, as mentioned, was never discovered in this context.
To Avi Blizovsky, when science uses existing tools, it can only be investigated and proven within those tools, and anything beyond that can never be proven.
You can get stuck and insist and not be open to other things and as a result science will remain limited to the limit of the ability of these tools.
It would be good if your last sentence was not written, it is better that the dialogue be factual and non-judgmental
To my father Dewani. Not every phenomenon that some organization of pseudo-scientists invents needs to be investigated. Channeling has no logical or scientific basis even if they change the world, so it's a waste of scientists' time. The place of media research in psychiatric hospitals.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
When we try to decipher extraordinary phenomena, we must take into account the fact that science knows a lot and there are things it has not yet discovered, therefore naturally it is not able to deal with all the phenomena, the tools that science uses are logical and they require proof that science has adopted for itself and this is how it should be, science is not Willing to refer to tools he is not familiar with and as far as I know he is not willing to check them and I mean the information that comes down here through the channeling of a creative function known as "superconsciousness". In my opinion this stems from a fear of dealing with things that are not in the consensus of science and it takes someone who has the courage to check how far the content presented is There (and also distributed in 12 books published on the subject) it is worth checking, the additional claim that is made is that there are so many people who call and if you have to check them all there will be no time for other topics, the claim is fine on the one hand, on the other hand maybe you are missing information that can shed light on many topics for which an answer is sought
I think we are missing the point here, the Mayans who lived about 5000 years ago, without telescopes, without the concept of infinite space as we know it today, without any real observation of space as we have today, were able to deduce with a very high degree of accuracy when The next galactic alignment - the Earth with the center of the galaxy and several other bodies, this was at a time when they had no idea what a galaxy was as we know it today - the real question is how????
How did they know how to talk about such concepts and assess this situation with such high precision??? how ?
Whether another entity helped them or whether they came to it alone, the fact that they were really smart means that it should be taken seriously!
Really seriously!
First of all, it's not the end of the world because we haven't seen many signs of the end of the world, I'm talking religiously. This is the end of the technology era and the beginning of a new era, and if something truly catastrophic happens with the beginning of this era, I don't think it will happen in the Middle East because it is a sacred place. If it really happens in 2012 as they say and the rotation of the earth will be reversed and the sun will rise from the west, then you have to worry because that is where the end of the world begins because the rising of the sun from the west is the first big sign of the end of the world
The Freemasons are an organization that has existed for hundreds of years. It is an organization whose main motto is based on love for others and mutual help.
Freemasonry is based on the principles of "Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth" in English: Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth.
In Arab countries they were forbidden to operate and they were denounced there as having subversive, Zionist or capitalist tendencies.
The Nazis sent them to the concentration camps along with the Jews.
So, "Arabs with respect" your hatred and your ilk, for organizations and bodies based on love, help and truth is not suitable for you.
You are more interested in virgins and how to reach them. (There were 70 now they are less).
I would be ashamed to be an Arab.
One who knows ^_^ As we all know in space there are no directions so God above? Impossible, there is no such thing up there in terms of the map of space and you really have mental problems to say the truth (obviously the 2012 movie made predictions of the Mayans and not the other way around) check your prescription you must be another one of these drug smokers
I'm actually satisfied if it will be expensive. I will finally pay off the mortgage and all in one day.
You people are stressed about nothing.
The 2012 event is a movie only!!!
The world will not be destroyed and no one will die, don't forget that we are Jews, the chosen people!
The only ones who can change their destiny and nothing is decided for us from above, we have the right to choose..
When the country improves and the problems are solved, we will be fine, this date - 21/12/2012 means nothing, those who believe in such nonsense are uneducated, and it is also a shame for the Jewish people to believe in such things when we have someone above who is watching over us.
think about it.
I don't think it will be the end of the world because I had before everything
In a few years you will all die
Anna:
Tomorrow is also in the future.
Are you afraid only of 2012 or also of tomorrow?
Think about the fact that the only difference between the two dates is that one of them was made into a film and the other was not.
After I saw the movie, which was scary and cool at the same time by the way, I had an anxiety attack.
There is no proof of the end of the world and no proof that there won't be one, but as everyone says - "we will live" and see.
Now I'm afraid of what will happen in the future. ):
21 Stop reading conspil articles, it's not healthy.
F**CK NEW WORLD ORDER
All the disasters in the world are made by the FREE MASONS
The free masons are what they call themselves and they will do anything for evil to win hahahahaha
The end of the world is near, no doubt.
Not related to cosmic events, as related to human stupidity... I'm sure there is a homeopathic remedy against it.
You are not in the right direction at all, the only visible destruction is the arming of Iran with nuclear weapons, there is nothing to look for in the stars so far away when the answer is here so close..
Eran:
There is correct information in your words, but the introduction to them is incorrect:
1. I have not visited Yellowstone and yet I know the things.
2. I haven't forgotten them either and I guess the other people who know them haven't either. The issue was not raised because it does not belong to the discussion. There are many disasters that could happen and some of them certainly will happen but none of them belong to the question of whether the foolish belief in the story of 2012 is based on anything logical.
You're forgetting one thing that everyone who hasn't visited Yellowstone doesn't know..but they based it on the movie...
Yellowstone, for those who don't know, is a huge national park that sits on top of a super volcano... and the super volcano here is not my term, but it is called that because unlike small volcanoes... relatively, of course... it is 60 km in diameter!!...
The prediction is that every 640000 years or so it has a major eruption.
If it erupts... immediate bye-bye to almost the entire central and western part of the United States and not a little of Canada... and of course dust and damage to the east... but the problem is this...
Hmmm
Yellowstone is currently in a red state...that is, the very fact that it is bubbling and the geysers there amaze everyone..says that it is active..scientists do not know how to predict because we still do not have the capacity to erupt, but the estimate is that between now and a few thousand years it will erupt..let's hope Not in our time 🙂
Of all the things they showed in the movie, this is probably the most accurate.
You won't believe what I heard on Didi Harari's show yesterday. One of the members of the panel said that he saw the movie "2012" and they started guessing and saying that we have 3 more years to think about global warming. They talked on the show, I'd love the answers...
Ron:
First of all when we talk it's not black and white.
Besides - so what if he mentions the magnetosphere. I understand that the recipe for your persuasion is to mention a lot of scientific words.
You are in no position to talk nonsense
He says it in black and white:
The difference between 1990 and 2012 is the magnetosphere on Earth - the layer that protects us.
He means bullshit.
He repeats it more than once and the rest of the things he says are also nothing.
I don't remember any trouble that was excited about us in 1990 or around it due to his excitement or the solar poles.
Case of excitement in the interview - listen to the context
He means that every 22 years (two cycles) there is a peak in the sun's activity plus the reversal of the poles.
Ron:
The link you gave is so serious that the speaker does not even know that the magnetic field of the sun reverses every cycle of the sun and not once every two cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Magnetic_field
Ok we heard NASA, but what exactly is the story being attacked?
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation about it, including the 2012 movie.
Here is the authentic information about 2012 - including the scientific aspects and predictions
It is not so deterministic - if they had informed the public to prepare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V9x8ZP3WIg
No, no, stop scaring them, why don't you become a NASA scientist then no……………………..
Whoever decides what will happen is fate, whatever happens will happen..and that is, there is no waiting for it to happen and there is no waiting for it not to happen, so stop scaring people.... .
Oh, and you have a mistake, five meters underground will not suffice, nor will a kilometer... in case you want to dig a kilometer, you will be really hot down there and maybe you will also drown…………………………………………………… …….with a warm heart
Stop and have a good day, Karzi... and you really don't care... So go drown in her heart
Don't believe them, December 21st is the end, you have to dig a hole at least 5 meters deep if you want to take advantage of course... and put in a lot of canned goods until there is vegetation for human consumption again
Stop taking doomsday predictions of ancient civilizations seriously.
It is more interesting to calculate how much human study time is wasted on this subject than to address it directly.
Millions of people read and deal with it every day, mostly out of ignorance.
If a person reads such news in five minutes
And a million people read something like that every day
That means humanity loses five million minutes of thought a day
which are nine and a half years soon.
Greetings friends,
Ami Bachar, chronic time waster
Didn't you realize that this is an imaginary movie?
All the fuss about the end of the world and conspiracy stories is a waste
time. As long as they are innocent enough to buy books on these subjects,
There will be someone who will write and sell them - whether they believe what they have
Write or not. Bringing up this topic in "Yaden" only causes
For more interest in him, among people who were not aware of him.
Doron 144 is also a miracle number that if you dial it on a Bezeq phone, you will receive information on locating a phone number by name and address.
The number 144 or 144000 is a number that will light all the chewing gum. This number is very fundamental in the development of the universe and the earth. 144 is the number of energetic/angelic families created beyond the "wall of fire" after the departure of the house.
And in translation to [known] physics the initial form/design of the energy-energy [quarky soup] after the big bang. The beginning of self-identity.
Doron.
Where is the NASA response video?
Any additional article on this nonsense, even if it comes to prove the nonsense of the idea of the supposedly expected kidney in 2012, is unnecessary.
The best way to kill the issue is, quite simply, not addressing it, and not the Sisyphean attempt to fight it, since any such war is predestined to failure (you can't really win with superstitions) and it only encourages opposing rationalizations and even more imaginary 'theories'.