Every ten years since the XNUMXs, astronomers and astrophysicists in the US gather to compile a list of priorities for means and instruments. These surveys require scientists to think about priorities
It takes expensive instruments to learn about the universe, but projects like the Very Large Array of Radio Astronomy in New Mexico and the Earth-orbiting Chandra X-ray Observatory have advanced scientific knowledge in ways that would not have been possible without these instruments. Every ten years astronomers and astrophysicists prioritize the equipment they need in the Decennial Survey of Astronomy and Astrophysics. The latest edition of the survey was released by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine in late 2021, and funding discussions will be in full swing next fiscal year.
I'm a professor of astronomy and my research depends on instruments and equipment created after a recommendation in one of these 2010-yearly surveys, and I was involved in the previous survey published in XNUMX.
The latest wish list is full of fascinating projects, and it will be exciting to see who will receive funding and what research will come from them.
Every ten years since the XNUMXs, astronomers and astrophysicists in the USA gather to compile a list of priorities for means and instruments.
The tenth annual survey of astronomers is influential because it forces everyone to be coordinated and make tough choices. He has to moderate his ambitions with the constraints of reality, but when the astronomers and astrophysicists from the many subfields all work together, they come up with ideas that advance the entire field.
The title of the latest report is "Paths to discoveries in astronomy and astrophysics in the twenties". It is addressed to Congress and the three federal agencies that fund most research in astronomy: NASA, the National Science Foundation and the Department of Energy. Billions of dollars are at stake.
Producing the report is a big task involving 20 people in the central committee and more than a thousand who contribute to the final report. The committee reviewed 573 position papers arguing for specific astronomical projects and capabilities. The final report includes 615 pages and is not an easy read.
This approach is successful. Some of NASA's most ambitious and productive science missions—such as the Webb and Hubble space telescopes—were proposed and funded through decennial surveys.
Improving knowledge about planets outside the solar system - and searching for signs of life in them - is an important goal that the research community stated in the report.
The committee identified 24 important scientific questions for the next generation of astronomy. They are divided into three main topics that are science on the largest scale, and the measures on the wish list are designed to address these topics.
The first is the exploration of the Earth-like worlds. Thanks to the huge increase in the discovery of exoplanets (planets outside our solar system), the number of known planets outside the solar system doubles every two years or so. Among the more than 5,000 known exoplanets are several hundred that are Earth-like and potentially capable of supporting life. A major goal in the next ten years is to build new large telescopes on the ground and in space with instruments that can "sniff" the atmospheres of Earth-like planets to try to discover gases such as oxygen, which on Earth are produced by bacteria (this is also one of the missions of the Webb Space Telescope, but to To carry it out he will have to push to the limit of his ability AB).
The second is to promote multiple messenger astronomy - a relatively new field of astrophysics that takes information about gravitational waves, elementary particles and magnetic radiation and combines it all to gain deeper insights into the astrophysics at the core of the universe. In this case, the need is less for new scientific tools and more for grants to allow researchers to work together and share data. The scientific goal is to know more about cosmic explosions and mergers of compact objects such as neutron stars and black holes.
The last topic is the study of cosmic interacting systems, especially the origin and evolution of galaxies and the massive black holes at their center. By looking at very distant galaxies astronomers can look into the past, because light takes time to reach Earth, so to understand these large and complex systems scientists will need huge optical telescopes to find galaxies far away in the young universe, and also radio telescopes to peer into their dusty hearts and reveal the black holes.
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Israel
In the book I linked to it is explained nicely. In the measurement - an electron can behave like a particle or like a wave, but this is an artifact of the measurement. It is not the electron itself.
I didn't understand how the coins would go. The polarizer does not change the polarization.
How many "continuous quantitative things" are there in the world?
The discrete perception of physical reality, (particles) is an imitation of the wrong geometrical perception, that a line is made up of points.
Physical reality is continuous, and not discrete (or particle)
Theoretical physics is wrong, and it's time to fix it.
There are 5 "continuous quantitative things" in the world
These are length, area, volume, time and energy.
The length, area, and volume create the geometric occupation
Time and energy create the physical occupation.
The five continuous quantitative things are what create the exact sciences, whose names are geometry and physics.
A continuous quantity has a distinct sign. Whatever continuous quantity we choose, there is always a continuous quantity greater than it, and there is also a continuous quantity smaller than it.
A continuous quantitative thing is always between zero amount and infinite amount.
Quantity is the name of natural knowledge, which exists in every person.
Everyone knows that the amount of length of the eraser stick is greater than the amount of length of a pencil. Every person knows that the amount of floor area of the room is greater than the amount
And so on
A. Asbar
Where in QED does it appear that a photon is only a particle and not a wave?
You can calculate calculations as if it were a particle, but you can also calculate failure times according to Ptolemy's model.
Not to mention trajectory calculations for projectiles based on the assumption that a body in free fall is subject to gravitational force.
And of course Maxwell derived the entire electromagnetic model from the assumption that there is an ether..
So are there epicles? Does gravity act on a body in free fall? Is there a website?
The Tower of Babel still exists,
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/2/9422152e-be12-499e-a9ca-7e3b0261dec0.pdf
A. Asbar
"The first polarizer is vertical, therefore every photon that passes is vertically polarized."
There is no difference from what I wrote:
"Use moving coins that are all vertically polarized." It does not matter how the vertical polarization was achieved. If you want, you can use the first vertical pole, followed by one at an angle, and the last one horizontal. You will see that in such an arrangement some of the flying coins will pass.
What about a link to the fact that a photon is only a particle?
Israel
That's not how the polarizer experiment works.
The first polarizer is vertical, so every photon that passes is vertically polarized. Put a horizontal polarizer after it - and not a single photon will pass.
Put a 45 degree polarizer between them, and now some of the photons will pass.
A polarizer does not change the polarization of the photons. Sugar, for example, can change the polarization, but a polarizing lens is basically a filter.
Israel
"Bring a link to the fact that light is made of particles only, not waves."
I brought in my previous comment (Feynman's book).
Light when it is for itself, is waves of passive time
Conventional science says "electromagnetic waves" and neuroscience says "passive time waves" PTW
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
Bring a link to the fact that light is made of particles only, not waves.
You can maybe treat it as particles but that doesn't mean it is particles.
A baboon also has certain characteristics of a person, but we all know that he is a baboon.
What is the problem with a particle in superposition? Also a cube and spin coin in superposition.
"In superposition the situation is different. A particle in superposition behaves fundamentally differently from the coin. The experiment of the polarizers shows this, and of course also the Stern-Gerlach experiment.'
Use moving coins that are all vertically polarized and you will see that they will block a horizontally polarized one. If you put a polarizer in front of it at an angle of 45 degrees, many coins will change their polarization and some will be able to pass the polarizer, just like in the experiment you brought.
What is the problem with the reduction? Do you not accept that as long as the particle has not disintegrated it is alive despite the superposition?
Instead of wasting time discussing the nature of light - a particle or a wave - try proposing a measurement that deals with light.
According to the neural view, space is full of passive time, and in each direction we must measure 0.0033 microseconds of passive time.
Do you have an idea how to perform this measurement (which does not appear on Wikipedia)
A. Asbar
Please don't feed the troll.
Never-ending barbarism never helps.
Question: What is light?
Answer: Light is the name of natural knowledge
He who opens his eyes and looks, natural knowledge comes to him and he knows.
You can give any name to this natural knowledge, and in the case we chose the combination of the letters A and R
For the natural knowledge that comes to the person who closes his eyes, a different name was chosen, and it is the combination of the letters ששק
The one who says that light is a particle, should understand that the combination of the letters hal-k-k is also just a name.
The one who says that light is a wave, should understand that the combination of the letters G is just a name.
Every combination of letters in the human language is just a name, and from here the never-ending verbiage breaks out.
The barbarism on the subject of pie was stopped by a practical experiment, and the barbarism on the subject of light will also be stopped by a practical experiment.
Nissim and Israel you have a task, propose an experiment that will stop the barbarism about the combination of the letters O'R
Successfully
A. Asbar
Israel
Coinage is very different from superposition. In currency - the situation changes all the time, and at any given time the currency has a certain value (say - angular value).
In superposition the situation is different. A particle in superposition behaves fundamentally differently from the coin. The experiment of the polarizers shows this, and of course also the Stern-Gerlach experiment.
Regarding duality - what you check is the result of a measurement. It does not show what the properties of the particle are before the measurement.
https://www.amazon.com/QED-Strange-Princeton-Science-Library/dp/0691164096/ref=asc_df_0691164096/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312168166316&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13559561790960046232&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033391&hvtargid=pla-434636052694&psc=1
https://ephysics.co.il/%D7%93%D7%95%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%92%D7%9C-%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A7-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8/
What does it mean that the particle is in superposition?
Just as a spinning coin is in the superposition of a waffle tree, only measurement will determine the final state the coin will collapse into. The same as the particle, it is both down and up, only the measurement will determine its final state.
Israel
Einstein received a Nobel Prize for showing that light is made of "particles". I don't think there is an argument about that.
There is no duality - light is a "particle". I put the quotation marks because it is actually a field, an electron is not a point particle.
When we measure a single electron, it looks like a particle. When you measure a large amount it looks like a wave.
(You know that better than me….)
Regarding the disintegration of the particle - the particle did not disintegrate in a certain "world" and in this world the living cat. In other worlds it may have disintegrated and the cat died there.
But that's beside the point. I asked you earlier - what does it mean that the particle is in superposition?
Pee and sleep, boy
What is ? According to Asbar
There are 5 "continuous quantitative things"
These are length, area, volume, time and energy.
The length, area, and volume create the geometric occupation
Time and energy create the physical occupation.
A continuous quantity has a distinct sign.
Whatever continuous quantity we choose, there is always a continuous quantity greater than it, and there is always a continuous quantity smaller than it.
A continuous quantitative thing is always between zero amount and infinite amount.
The five continuous quantitative things are in the field of the exact sciences, whose names are geometry and physics.
Quantity is the name of natural knowledge, which exists in every person.
Every person knows, even without studying, that the number of hypotheses in his head is greater than the number of students who cried.
Quantity is a name of natural knowledge, and we all act on it even without knowing it.
Everyone knows that the amount of length of the eraser stick is greater than the amount of length of a pencil. Everyone knows that the area of the room's floor is greater than the area of the surface of the wall in the room.
Everyone knows that the volume of a football is greater than the volume of a tennis ball. Everyone also knows that the amount of surface area of a tennis ball is greater than the amount of surface area of a ping pong ball.
Quantity is the name of a natural knowledge that exists in every person,
And all human beings make use of this natural knowledge of quantity, without knowing that they are using it.
So far we have known 3 "quantitative things" and they are length, area, and volume.
These are the three quantitative things of geometry, and now the two quantitative things of physics, time and energy, must be introduced.
Let's start on time
The listener to his heart beats, detects an amount of time between every two beats.
The only answer to the question... what is time? It is very simple.
Time is a continuous quantitative thing (dkr) just as length is a continuous quantitative thing (dkr)
Time is a completely different thing from length, but these two things are important..
The physical occupation began with the continuous quantitative thing called time, and it will continue with the second continuous quantitative thing called energy.
The stair climber will recognize another continuous quantitative thing called energy.
In the action of the leg muscles, we will climb one step and get a little tired.
And if we climb 10 stairs we will get more tired,
And if we climb 100 stairs we will get much more tired.
The feeling of fatigue has a quantitative meaning, which translates it into an amount of energy.
Now it is already clear that the exact sciences are perceived in a very simple way, and this
With the help of the natural knowledge of the quantity inherent in man.
Geometry deals with length, area, and volume.
Whereas physics deals with time and energy,
Conclusion: There is no fundamental difference between geometry and physics, and the method of investigating geometry can be adapted to the investigation of physics.
Now it can be stated that just as in geometry there are all kinds of geometric shapes, so energy has all kinds of physical shapes.
In the further investigation of geometry and physics, it will become clear that physics is much more complex, and even so, geometry has an important role in understanding physics.
Geometry and physics mirror each other, with five continuous quantitative things.
There are only 5 continuous quantitative things in the world - and no more.
Length, area, and volume in the geometric field, time and energy in the physical field.
Man has a natural knowledge of quantity, and the exact sciences deal with 5 continuous quantitative things that exist in the world. Therefore, it should not be surprising that man invented a "language of quantities" especially for the exact sciences.
It is about the language of numbers, where each number represents an ethereal quantity.
The language of quantities was created as a necessity of practical life that requires counting, one, two, three, four, and so on, and also as a need to accurately present the five
The best in the world.
This language is called mathematics, and the corresponding Hebrew name for it is kamatan.
Now in science there is a triple creation of geometry, physics, mathematics.
This three-fold creation is naturally understood by every person, but that does not mean that it should be of interest to every person.
Each person has his own interests, which express his inner world.
This basic description is sufficient for understanding the exact sciences.
Those interested in expanding can follow Esbar publications, which will appear in the future on Esbar's website.
A. Asbar
20/6/2022
Miracles and Israel, my heart is with you.
When will you stop reciting what is written on Wikipedia.
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%A9%D7%9C_%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%9C
When will you realize that all the physical theories that appear on Wikipedia should be thrown out, and in their place a new theory must be presented, based on a new idea that is completely unknown to humanity.
The attempts to create a "theory of everything" failed because it was never said...what is it? All this.
According to Asbar's concept - all this is 5 continuous quantitative things, and they are length, area, volume, time and energy.
Nervous perception is based on the fact that a person has a natural knowledge of quantity.
A neural theory of everything, including the exact sciences geometry and physics.
And since it is an exact science, the use of numbers will appear in it.
I hope the scientist will not hesitate to publish my approach, regarding "theory of everything"
A. Asbar
"Einstein received a Nobel Prize for showing that this is not true."
Negative. In quanta there is the principle of duality, every quantum object is both a wave and a particle, a "balloon".
What's wrong with the cat? Do you not accept that as long as the particle has not disintegrated the cat is alive despite the superposition?
Israel
The experiment can be explained in classical physics only if light is a wave. Einstein received a Nobel Prize for showing that this was not true.
If the particle is in superposition then it has both polarizations right? After all, this is the meaning of superposition.
The particle is in superposition, the cat is not.
It does not fall into the category of either living or dead with equal probability, it only falls into the living category as long as the particle has not disintegrated.
I think the experiment you brought to Judah can also be explained classically.
Israel
The point is that a particle behaves differently when it is in superposition. The experiment I described to Yehuda demonstrates the difference.
Schrödinger, and Einstein too, did not like the explanation of superposition - but to this day they have not found a more "simple" explanation.
The five principles of the exact sciences
The exact sciences are geometry and physics.
They are mistakenly thought to be suitable for exceptionally gifted students, when really they are accessible to anyone with a little interest in science.
This article will introduce those interested in science to the common idea of geometry and physics, and it will make them a natural, self-explanatory occupation.
The common idea of the exact sciences will be represented by the word ...quantity.
Quantity is the name of natural knowledge, which exists in every person.
Every person knows, even without studying, that the number of hypotheses in his head is greater than the number of students who cried.
Quantity is a name of natural knowledge, and we all act on it even without knowing it.
Everyone knows that the amount of length of the eraser stick is greater than the amount of length of a pencil. Everyone knows that the area of the room's floor is greater than the area of the surface of the wall in the room.
Everyone knows that the volume of a football is greater than the volume of a tennis ball. Everyone also knows that the amount of surface area of a tennis ball is greater than the amount of surface area of a ping pong ball.
Quantity is the name of a natural knowledge that exists in every person, and all people make use of this natural knowledge of quantity, without knowing that they are using it.
So far we have known 3 "quantitative things" and they are length, area, and volume.
These are the three quantitative things of geometry, and emphasized at that
Because these are continuous quantitative things.
A continuous quantity has a distinct sign.
Any quantity that is chosen from a continuous quantitative talk, there is always a quantity greater than it - and there is always a quantity smaller than it.
A continuous quantitative thing exists between a zero amount and an infinite amount.
And since the common idea of the exact sciences is the concept of quantity
One must now ask, what are the continuous quantitative things of physics.
And the answer is of course...energy and time.
Let's start on time
The listener to his heart beats, detects an amount of time between every two beats.
The only answer to the question... what is time? It is very simple.
Time is a continuous quantitative thing (dkr) just as length is a continuous quantitative thing (dkr)
Time is a completely different thing from length, but these two things are important..
Physical activity begins with the continuous quantitative thing called time, and continues with the second continuous quantitative thing called energy.
The stair climber will recognize another continuous quantitative thing called energy.
In the action of the leg muscles, we will climb one step and get a little tired.
And if we climb 10 stairs we will get more tired,
And if we climb 100 stairs we will get much more tired.
The feeling of fatigue has a quantitative meaning, which translates it into an amount of energy.
Now it is already clear that the exact sciences are perceived in a very simple way, and this
With the help of the natural knowledge of the quantity inherent in man.
Geometry deals with length, area, and volume.
Whereas physics deals with time and energy,
Conclusion: There is no fundamental difference between geometry and physics, and the method of investigating geometry can be adapted to the investigation of physics.
Now it can be stated that just as in geometry there are all kinds of geometric shapes, so energy has all kinds of physical shapes.
In the further investigation of geometry and physics, it will become clear that physics is much more complex, and even so, geometry has an important role in understanding physics.
Geometry and physics mirror each other, with five continuous quantitative things.
The total of the five Dachars that exist in the world.
There are only 5 continuous quantitative things in the world - and no more.
Length, area, and volume in the geometric field, time and energy in the physical field.
Man has a natural knowledge of quantity, and the exact sciences deal with 5 continuous quantitative things that exist in the world. Therefore, it should not be surprising that man invented a "language of quantities" especially for the exact sciences.
It is about the language of numbers, where each number represents an ethereal quantity.
The language of quantities was created as a necessity of practical life that requires counting, one, two, three, four, and so on, and also as a need to accurately present the five numbers that exist in the world.
This language is called mathematics, and the corresponding Hebrew name for it is kamatan.
Now appeared in science a triple creation of geometry, physics, mathematics.
This three-fold creation is naturally understood by every person, but that does not mean that it should be of interest to every person.
Each person has his own interests, which express his inner world.
The threefold creation, geometry, physics, mathematics - is within the reach of every person, but this does not mean that every person will be interested in it.
This basic description is sufficient for understanding the exact sciences.
Those interested in expanding can follow Esbar publications, which will appear in the future on Esbar's website.
A. Asbar
You forgot to root.
what about the cat Why if the box is transparent and we see him is he not in a superposition of living and dead?
You can see this well if you think of a spinning coin that is superimposed on a Waffle tree. If it falls into a tree, the cat lives and Pele dies.
But as long as the coin did not fall, the cat lived despite the superposition.
No?
Israel
3.14 is also the IQ of Asbar....
Einstein was born on 3.14 so apparently the number is still special..
Since we have reached response 314, it is really requested to publish the scope experiment once again,
who discovered that the time of the number 3.14 has passed
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
A. Asbar
Yehuda
If you have 2 pairs of Polaroid sunglasses - you can do the experiment easily.
Here is his hand which looks very nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2TkM0hzW8
This file should connect with my previous post
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
For Judah, miracles and Israel
One can forget about all the known physical theories, and start judging the Asbar view, which pretends to explain all the phenomena in physical reality.
The Asbar view opens with the statement:
There are only 5 continuous quantitative things in the world, and they are: length, area, volume, which belong to geometry, and energy and time which belong to physics.
This statement indicates a unity that exists in reality, and the five quantitative things will always appear together, and have no separate existence.
A continuous quantitative thing has a hallmark.
Whatever quantity we choose from the thing, there is always a larger quantity, and a smaller quantity.
A continuous quantitative thing, existing between zero amount and infinite amount.
Compared to the simple continuous quantitative things length, area and volume, energy and time are continuous quantitative things that are not simple at all, and have a passive side and an active side.
The simple and visible geometry teaches us how to approach the mysterious physics that is not visible to man.
First, the fundamental concept of geometry must be recognized, and this is an easy recognition.
The line is the fundamental concept of geometry, and has a millimeter length and shape.
It is also easy to recognize that there is a straight line, there are infinite forms of closed circular lines, and there are infinite forms of curved lines.
Now we must look for the fundamental concept of physics, similar to the fundamental concept of geometry, and we will inevitably reach energy as a quantitative quantity, with many forms.
There is energy of heat, and of cold, and muscle energy, and energy of springs, and energy of height, and electrical energy, and chemical energy, and on and on
Physical geometric similitude guides the view of Asbar in the study of reality.
A selected line has a quantitative size in millimeters, and is one of many shapes.
Energy should have a quantitative size, and many forms.
This method of physical geometric imagination immediately reveals a law that exists in reality.
The forms of energy alternate with each other, and the amount exchanged is always preserved.
Now it is clear that there is a similarity between geometry and physics, but physics is much more complex, and we have already seen that it has a law of nature and it
"The Law of Conservation of the Alternating Quantity of Energy Forms"
Physics is much more complex than geometry, because apart from energy and its natural law, there is another wonderful quantitative thing in physics and that is the passive time.
Passive time is a measured quantitative thing, which is in a state of absolute rest and absolute cold. Passive time fills the infinite space and does not interfere with the movements of the stars,
The passive time has an important role, and is the necessary medium for the transmission of sunlight, the sunlight passes through the passive time, with the help of "passive time waves".
Passive time is a complete innovation that appears in Esbar's view, and until today physicists were familiar with active time, which is revealed by "listening" to the heartbeat.
Between every two heartbeats we occupy an amount of active time, which fades and disappears as soon as we were able to notice it.
Compared to the active time that disappears from reality as soon as it is noticed, the passive time exists and is always present, and is the medium in which light waves move.
The passive time has another very important role in the view of Neber, since by combining amounts of passive time and energy, a "something" is created which is commonly called matter.
This idea of adding quantities comes from the geometric field.
A geometric shape called a square is perceived by adding quantities of "two other quantitative things" the first thing is the length of a closed line built from 4 straight line segments equal in length, and the second thing is the amount of area inside the closed line.
Whereas matter is seen as a physical form, resulting from the combination of quantities of
"Two other quantitative things" and they are passive energy and time.
A geometric-physical similarity will always accompany the Asbar view, and the signs indicate that it is a comprehensive view, which may describe all the phenomena known to science.
This is not the end of the wonders of the Asbar view.
Just as there is passive time, there is also passive energy that does not change.
Every real body is made up of sums of passive time and energy, and when such a body is placed on an open spring resting on the surface of the earth, the spring will contract a little.
A compressed spring shows a quantity of passive energy, and it arises from the body placed on the spring. This explanation invalidates the Newtonian explanation of gravity.
In Eber's view there are no forces, no gravity, no strong force, no weak force, no quantum matter, no particles, no electrons, and no protons, no dark matter, no gravity, no black holes, no empty space, no big bang,
In Asbar's view there are only 5 continuous quantitative things and they are . Length, area, volume, time (passive and active) and passive and active energy.
The active energy has many forms, and the passive has a single form. .
The explanations in Asbar's view will be based on the law of conservation of energy, and on the existence of passive time - absolute rest and absolute cold - which fills the space and transmits the light.
The passive time will explain the electric and magnetic phenomena, and the phenomenon of superconductivity that appears at the limit of cold, where the passive time is found.
And the rest will be told in the article "A wonderful universe built from energy and passive time"
A. Asbar
to Judah,
Why was quantum theory invented, if the concept of "physical action" exists.
Every physical action is perceived according to the combination of the amount of energy and the time of its production.
Muscle action clearly illustrates the necessary combination of the amount of energy and the time of its production. The "power of action" differentiates between physical actions.
The action of light has a constant amount of energy, but the time of its production varies.
Each color of light has a different production time, but the amount of energy is constant.
All changes in nature occur by way of physical action, and the difference between the actions is their power.
Quantum theory talks about physical operations that have a tiny production time,
And the question is whether quantum theory noticed "the power of the action"
A. Asbar
Dear Nissim
Solving this question is beyond my knowledge. I will try to find study material on the subject. Wikipedia in Hebrew did not help
All the best
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda
Thus 2 lenses of polarized sunglasses. Look through one of the lenses on the computer screen and rotate the lens until you can no longer see the screen. The light from your screen is polarized, and you will not see the screen when the polarization of the glasses is perpendicular to the polarization of the screen.
Now insert the second lens between the first lens and the screen and rotate. What will happen is that in a certain situation you will see the screen again!
I would appreciate it if you could explain it to me without quantum theory.
What was agreed at the end of this discussion?
https://www.hayadan.org.il/is-the-universe-expand-faster-than-we-thought-1006163
A. Asbar
Does the concept of "physical action" appear in quantum theory?
Every physical action is perceived according to the combination of the amount of energy and the time of its production.
Muscle action clearly illustrates the necessary combination of the amount of energy and the time of its production. The "power of action" differentiates between physical actions.
In neurophysics, energy is a "continuous thing" and time is also a "continuous thing"
There is no point in talking about time alone, and there is no point in talking about energy alone.
Energy and time are always close, and the action power expresses this.
All changes in nature occur by way of physical action, and the difference between the actions is their power.
Does the physical concept of "action power" exist in quantum theory?
A. Asbar
What is the problem with the experiment you described? If the photon didn't pass - alive. Past - dead (or vice versa).
Even in the original experiment I don't see a problem. The fact that we don't see the cat is irrelevant, it is either alive or dead. As long as the particle in superposition the cat in the position of live.
for miracles
Thank you for your learned response from 8:14 14.6.22.
When I write the words "it seems to me" you see in my words a firm intention, but I mean that I am not sure
And for our purposes
It seems to me that Popper needs an upgrade when he is called upon to decide in quantum theory whether the idea is scientific or not. In Newton's theory and relativity, is it possible to put the theory to a refutation test without fearing that this operation will change the data of the theory as it might happen in quantum theory? I understand the approach of Schrödinger and Einstein who opposed the quantum theory, and maybe not Popper needs an upgrade but the quantum theory needs a correction!
You said in your response that "there is even a simple home experiment, an amazing experiment that shows that this is true" please detail the experiment. It seems to me that the experiment will have a different explanation.
Next, you are enthusiastic (perhaps rightly so) about Ebert's idea of multiple worlds. But it seems to me that it is unscientific to share an alien world/universe with the explanation that there is a popish contradiction in the proposal itself, you will not be able to put it to the test because any connection with a parallel universe unites the two universes due to the transfer of information between them.
So far. Waiting for the simple and home experiment,
All the best and thanks for a challenging response.
Sabdarmish Yehuda.
Israel
If I pass a photon through a polarizer at 45 degrees - is the photon not in superposition? If I put a vertical polarizer after that, only 50% of the photons will go through.
Not accepting, Nisimov.
In the original experiment there is a duration for the cat to be in superposition, an hour for example.
With you, the choice is immediate, with the passage of the photon, and there is no measurement that will cause the photon to collapse into a certain quantum state.
In the original experiment, in my opinion, as long as the particle did not disintegrate, with our knowledge or not, it falls into the category of not disintegrating.
It can be seen beautifully if instead of a cat you put a bomb. You heard a boom - the particle disintegrated and at a certain moment (say 34 minutes from the start of the experiment). You didn't hear - it didn't fall apart.
The superposition doesn't matter.
Even in the experiment you described, there is no such thing as up alive and down dead. Only a measurement will determine, and as long as no measurement has been made, the cat is alive despite the superposition.
There are some experiments related to the formulas.
Cylindrical experiments on inclined planes, and in free fall.
Kepler's observations of the sun as a central star, and of the orbits of the sun
The circumference experiment that established that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
A. Asbar
Yehuda
So you didn't understand what the experiment said... And yet you have a strong opinion 🙂
I will change the experiment a bit to explain what the problem is.
Instead of a radioactive particle, suppose there is a light polarizer in the box, like the lens of Polaroid glasses. J
We have a flashlight that fires a single photon of unknown polarization at the detector in the box.
If the photon passes the polarizer then the cat dies, if not - the cat continues to live.
That is - in classical physics there is a 50% chance that the cat is alive.
But - in quantum physics, the situation is different! Many experiments have taught us that until we "measure" the photon - it has both vertical and horizontal polarization. It's not that we don't know what the polarization is - a photon really has both polarizations. There is even a simple home experiment, an amazing experiment, that shows this to be true.
Schrödinger wanted to show that there was something wrong with the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum theory' and Einstein agreed with him. The Copenhagen interpretation (of Bohr and Heisenberg) holds that observation of a quantum system causes the collapse of the Schrödinger equation.
After that, other interpretations were invented by Bohm, von Neumann, Ebert and others. Today Ebert's interpretation (multiple worlds) is beginning to gain momentum. In my opinion, rightly so - I think that in the future they will understand that Ebert Piscay is no less important than Einstein himself.
Yoda
The sea is the same sea, the Arabs the same Arabs, and the nisim the same miracles..
But I also never understood what the problem was with the cat.
Physical geometry and geometric physics are intertwined.
Physical geometry contains clues about true physical reality.
Another hypothesis except for hypothesis 12c
The number 1.007 will appear in physical geometry, and also in geometric physics.
In physical geometry it expresses the ratio between extreme pi numbers
3.1416 and 3.164
In geometric physics, it expresses the existence of a narrow velocity field, related to the structure of the universe.
The ratio between the high speed of the domain and the low speed of the domain is 1.007
A. Asbar
Decorated
aetzbar
Go away, dumbass
Please attach to my previous message
Thanks
A. Asbar
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Miracles to Judah and Israel
Investigating reality by way of physical geometric imagination.
The simple and visible geometry teaches us how to approach the mysterious physics that is not visible to man.
First, the fundamental concept of geometry must be recognized, and this is an easy recognition.
The line is the fundamental concept of geometry, and has a millimeter length and shape.
(there is a straight line, there are infinite shapes of a closed circular line, and there are infinite shapes of a curved line),
Now we must look for the fundamental concept of physics, similar to the fundamental concept of geometry, and we will inevitably arrive at energy as some size, with many forms.
The size that must be is not yet clear, but the shapes are completely clear.
There is energy of heat, and of cold, and muscle energy, and energy of springs, and energy of height, and electrical energy, and chemical energy, and on and on
Physical geometric similitude guides the neural view in the study of reality.
A selected line has a quantitative size in millimeters, and is one of many shapes.
Energy has a quantitative size (not yet clear) and many forms.
This method of physical geometric similitude immediately yields a law that exists in reality.
The forms of energy alternate with each other, and the amount exchanged is always preserved.
Now it is already clear that there is a similarity between geometry and physics, but physics is much more complex, because it has a natural law "the law of conservation of the quantity of energy forms"
Indeed, physics is much more complex than geometry, because apart from energy, there is another quantitative thing in it and that is the passive time.
Passive time is a measured quantitative thing, and has the characteristics of absolute rest and absolute cold.
Passive time fills the infinite space, it does not interfere with the movements of the stars, and is the necessary medium for the transmission of sunlight, in the style of "passive time waves".
Passive time does not exist in the Newtonian universe, nor does it exist in Einstein's universe.
With these two great researchers, only active time exists, which exists only in human consciousness. The clear concept of active time is "listening" to the heartbeat.
Between every two heartbeats we occupy an amount of active time, which fades and disappears immediately.
Compared to the active time that disappears from reality as soon as it is noticed, the passive time exists and is always there, and is the medium in which light waves move.
The passive tense has a very important role in the neural view, because matter is seen as a physical form, resulting from the addition of quantities of "two other quantitative things" and they are
Passive energy and time.
This is how the shape of the square is perceived by adding quantities of "two other quantitative things" and they are
The length of a closed line made up of 4 straight line segments of equal length, and within it an amount of space.
This is not the end of the wonders of neurophysics.
Just as there is passive time, there is also passive energy that does not change.
Every real body is made up of sums of passive time and energy, and when such a body is placed on an open spring resting on the surface of the earth, the spring will contract a little.
A compressed spring exhibits an amount of energy, and it comes from the body resting on the spring.
The law of conservation of energy also applies to passive energy.
Neurophysics presents a new reality, without quantum matter with gravity, and of course without dark matter, without electromagnetic waves but with waves of passive time,
There is no gravity, and no particles, but there are 5 continuous quantitative things in the world.
Length, area, volume, time and energy.
And the rest will be told in the article "A wonderful universe built from energy and passive time"
A. Asbar
Yoda
The sea is the same sea, the Arabs the same Arabs, and Nisim - the same miracles..
Particles?
By the way, I was never able to understand what the problem was with the cat either.
To Nisim Hadar
(Note: we have a new commenter here, please behave well, lest my father, God forbid, will throw us off the site, Asbar, Nisim and Israel - for your attention)
Well, for our eyes - why is Schrödinger's cat experiment too complicated, it could have been made simpler!
To remind you: an unknown cat was put in a closed cell without windows with a death device using a poison that would be activated by the random disintegration of an atom. In a normal state the cell is closed, we don't know if the cat is alive or dead why? It's true because the cell is closed. Let's say the test is at 9 o'clock, I claim that the cruel experiment is possible even without a closed cell and at the designated test time we will never know the condition of the cat because we are far away A little bit from the cat and we will see the results of the 9 o'clock experiment only after 9 because of the speed of light. In other words, the viewer's watch rings at 9 o'clock, but the cat's condition is still unknown to the viewer, even if the cell is open. In short, it seems to me that the closed cell for the cat is unnecessary and the experiment needs improvement...
Please respond gently
Let the Animals Live
The cat
Dear Nisom (yet)
It seems to me that Wikipedia in Hebrew stated that the electron has a rest mass and it is
9.1094×10^(-31) kg approximately, and not according to your learned opinion 0????????
So yes, the pushing particles can have mass????? About a billion
Hope nervousness is not a contagious disease
All the best
Yehuda Sabdarmish
post Scriptum. Nissim Hadar, welcome. My next response will be dedicated to you
Yehuda
I would appreciate it if you could explain why Schrödinger's cat experiment is "just complicated".
Perhaps you will also explain the double slit experiment and the Stern-Gerlach experiment at the same time?
And admittedly, you must at some point realize that your theory is not good because it contradicts the observations.
Yoda
It is possible that your opinion or someone's opinion is that now is the month of December in Israel.
I claim that June.
I have no time to waste or argue with a person who categorically states without reasoning that it is December, or that the universe moves at 12c. To me he is a moron, and if he adds "the 12C hypothesis does not need an explanation, it exists by itself, and you can only try to disprove it" then he is a complete moron.
If he is not prepared to adequately repeat his flimsy experiment, he is a liar, if he declares day and night that his physics should replace the physics of Newton and Einstein without having studied them, he is infinitely arrogant.
Asbar is clearly crazy. As I have already written, it has only one use: a child as a baker for training as an Asah, without feeling guilty for hurting the helpless.
What about the particles? Will we feel or not?
Dear Nissim (still...)
I will not use blunt words like you, because I have learned to appreciate people. Perhaps it is due to the fact that I studied industrial management and not science and graduated with honors. Simply, in industrial management you learn to treat people with respect. I'm sure that in our universe Pi is one and only, but I will never call an upset a fool, man is far from being a fool and even built a precise machine that he thinks proves his words, and he is wrong, but not a fool.
I will also not call a fool a person who thinks that there can be proof of the existence of a parallel universe and does not understand that the proof will make the parallel universe our universe. And does not understand that a solution of a parallel universe is equal in value to dark matter and energy., they are all delusional
And if it seems to me or it seems to me that the experiment of Schrödinger's cat is just complicated, then it will already show that I am stupid?
I'm also not stupid if it seems to me that my pushing particles are colliding with each other and they are smaller than electrons or manterins. At most I (might) be wrong.
Anyway, why should I be ashamed to speak my mind?
After a while, I proved to you why, it seems to me, that "Schrödinger's cat" is just a complicated experiment
good week
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Say where you flashed the 12c - or you'll run back to the institution you ran away from.
aetzbar
I have no interest in debating with a lying idiot.
Yehuda
You both have strong opinions about things you have no idea about. The dumb is much, much dumber ….. but you are also sure of something you don't understand.
I have opinions about physics, especially in the philosophy of physics. I have a master's degree in the field, but every time I learn something new - my opinions change....
For example - I believe in Ebert's "multiple worlds" and especially in Tagmark's "mathematical universe". Therefore - I learn as much as possible about the opponents of these models, and delve less into the supporters.
Too bad you don't want to study.
Unlike you - the idiot is not able to learn...
Oh - and, you will never hear from me "I don't think so"...
For Yehuda and Nissim, who are trying to practice physics.
In geometry it is clear that the fundamental concept is the continuous line that has a millimeter length and shape,
And what is the fundamental concept of physics? Obviously it's energy.
Just as a line has 3 basic forms (straight, many round, and many curves), so energy has many active forms
(Which amazingly they exchange with each other, but observe the law of conservation of quantity, for another exchange).
Those who try to engage in geometry must engage in lines and their shape, and those who try to engage in physics must engage in energy and its changing forms, which maintain quantitative conservation
The physical practice must discover the passive energy and passive time that exist right in reality.
Those who persevere in the study of geometry and physics will discover them in the structure of the universe.
The active time that exists only in the human consciousness, is not always revealed to him.
See the article available on the web...a wonderful universe built from energy and passive time.
A. Asbar
Yoda, what about free fall at 100g? Will we feel particles or not?
Miracles my friend
I have a lot to respond to but, the legitimate debate between us is deteriorating. You're comparing me to a fool (apparently to an annoyance) and that's unnecessary, so let's part as friends.
Good week, miracles, all the best
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Dear Nissim
I have a lot to say about your last comment. For example, the fact that two nearby stars collided and created gravitational waves is not proof that gravity works over long distances, but that it works in distant regions.
There is no point in me getting into arguments with you, so we will part ways and time will tell what will happen.
good week
All the best,
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda
Einstein didn't like something very specific about quantum theory - and more and more physicists are beginning to see that he was right. Not only did he love quantum theory - oh one of those who invented it!
Your Torah cannot be parallel to the quantum theory... I'm sorry, but your background is so lacking that I don't know where to start explaining it to you... Let's start with the fact that if your particles are not part of quantum theory, then they cannot affect particles that are in quantum theory...
And here is your lack of understanding 🙂 Physicists claim that particles have no size, because they perform hundreds of trillions of experiments every year - and this is what the experiments show! You claim to be an empiricist, but you ignore any observation that "doesn't seem to you"....
Yehuda …. We don't need to disconnect from gravity in galaxies, because we witness gravity in the cosmic background radiation.
You are like a moron in one thing - you dismiss the best science that ever existed because "it doesn't seem to you".
You think that the great physicists claim that the world is not simple because they are stupid, or liars, or want to make money, or.... Did I miss something??
But you - without first learning what physicists do say - you know better...
Dunning & Kroger would be proud of you. Today and Popper would be ashamed.
Dear Nissim
thank you for your response!
Your response does not contradict my approach in which I claim that the pushing particles live in their own world, and one should not draw conclusions from previous teachings (quantums, relativity, etc.) about them. And know that I will be in good company, with Einstein and others, who did not like (to say the least) quantum theory!
I don't want to transfer the topic of my response to quantum theory and relativity, but I am careful to agree with theories in which, lack of logic is the basis of their existence. For example, particles of zero size, which are not smaller than them?, in my logic, every mass has a smaller one and a larger one.
And regarding the theory of relativity that "works well" for the entire visible universe, I have already told you that for me, proofs immersed in dark matter and energy are not acceptable to me. If gravity doesn't work in galaxies then please don't change its mass data to me and say here it works!
So I, rightly, was cautious about the tiny ones, and I said that I am not sure that the existing theories are suitable for them and I said this using basic rules in science, which we all agree with, such as Popper, David Yom, and more.
Dear Nissim, the moment we become brave enough to disconnect from gravitation in the galaxies and in the large parts of the universe, then suddenly everything becomes simple, the spiral galaxies rotate without dark matter, and the universe expands rapidly without dark energy. Details on my website will be simple.
All good and Shabbat Shalom
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
The particle model of matter is a meaningless word.
The combination of the letters H H M R can only be the name of "something unknown"
The combination of the letters HLKK can only be the name of "something unknown"
Question: The combination of the letters "material" is the name of what?
Question: The combination of letters "particle" is the name of what?
Since there is no answer to these questions, the particle model of matter is meaningless.
The continuous material model is an understandable quantitative text.
The material is built from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy.
There are 5 quantitative things in the world - length, area, volume, time and energy.
Any quantity that is chosen "quantitatively speaking" always has a quantity greater than it, and a quantity smaller than it.
A "quantitative thing" always appears between zero amount, and an infinite amount.
A. Asbar
Yehuda
Your particles cannot be smaller than electrons or photons - because the size of these particles is - zero.
In general - these particles are not "particles" in the classical sense. These particles - all particles in quantum theory - are fields.
There are no collisions in quantum theory. There are interactions. For example: two electrons do not collide, they "pass" a photon between them and thus their momentum changes.
Special relativity works very well with these particles. General relativity not so much ….. but general relativity does work in the entire range between atoms and the entire visible universe.
Your Torah rejects all of this, Yehuda...
Dear Lansim!
For your response from 7.6.2022 time 07:51
I failed you so please let me explain.,
You wrote to me: "You threw away the theory of relativity and the quantum theory, etc." end of quote.
I'm sorry for miracles but I didn't throw anything away!, the respect of all these teachings is placed in their place and the emphasis is on the word "in their place" David Yom already said that a theory is correct where it was defined and tested. When we talk about the pushing particles they are very tiny, no theory has been defined and/or confirmed at such tiny sizes. To say with complete confidence that the theory of relativity or quantum theory is also defined by the action of tiny particles several orders of magnitude from the smallest known particles is against David Yom and it is not scientific Assuming this therefore I cannot say with confidence that relativity or quantum theory also represent such tiny particles. The problem also popped up for me in the big bang when scientists relate the known theories to the development of the bang in the dense and tiny times of its development, contrary to David Yom. And this leads to some strange things such as the need for a strange inflationary universe in the evolution of the Big Bang.
Another similar example is extreme from the opposite direction: - If the solar system rotates because of gravitation, this absolutely does not mean that the galaxies, which are millions and billions times larger than the solar system, also rotate for the same reason, the need for dark matter and energy to maintain it, says Darshani, but it For another debate.
And you add and say: "You are talking about classical physics in the world of quantum physics.... Etc. ” end quote. So I'm sorry for miracles in the environment of my tiny pushing particles. We can't be sure of quantum theory, or relationships or anything else. This is the essence of David Yom's philosophy.
And finally you write that it shows how much I don't understand" so I'm sorry but it shows how careful I am with respect to these tiny pushing particles of mine (if they exist of course)
Dear Nissim, your knowledge of science is certainly greater than mine, and maybe I'm still wrong, I'd love to hear your opinion.
So…. are we friends yet
And thank you for responding gently!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
A successful path, peace and security
The road is mobile to peace or deeds.
The wonderful way to the scope experiment
https://www.lawforums.co.il/Uploads/MessageAttachs/1263050_d5f7c93c.pdf
A. Asbar
Thank you too for revealing to everyone how a lying and despicable charlatan works.
It's nice that you bothered to answer, and expressed your opinion.
A. Asbar
aetzbar
No one gives you any importance. nobody.
No one has taken or will take you seriously and is frustrated because you don't take your scope seriously.
You know just like everyone else that the experiment you presented in the video is regrettable. Your refusal to conduct a proper experiment due to considerations of drama and to show a video of it, shows that either you have already conducted it and are aware of your folly, or the obvious: that you are a grumpy charlatan without minimal knowledge or understanding in any field, whose only occupation in life is to rant and rave about people.
12c elk.. where did you wink that from, devil?
In order to show Yoda, Nisim and Israel the great importance I attach to the scope experiment, attached is a copy of my request to the Technion's workshop to produce a scope and inform me of the measurement result obtained, of course with the signature of a mechanical engineer.
In honor of Mr. David Cohen - head of the workshop at the Technion..
I have a mechanical device that displays an unfamiliar precise measurement, and I would like to make a copy of it in the Technion's workshop.
The reason for my request, confirmation of the measurement result, from a mechanical engineer at the Technion.
The structure of the device is normal, except for a steel shaft with a diameter of 2 mm, with a deviation
A maximum of half a thousandth of a mm.
The name of the device - scope.
Attached is a video showing the operation of the scope,
I saw your price list, and I'm asking for a quote.
It's been two days, and they haven't answered me why? Who is frightened by the idea that a simple and accurate mechanical device will prove that the mathematicians are wrong in their perception of a constant sanity?
Israel, Nissim and Yoda, maybe organize a support group that will contact the Technion, and ask that the Technion repeat the scope experiment.
It is clear to you that in case of failure, the shame and shame is all mine.
Perhaps you will harness the science to this task, this is the geometric scientific experiment, which will shock the exact sciences of mathematics and geometry. After that we will talk about the neural universe.
A. Asbar
The main nerve endings on one leg.
1: Investigating the circuits with the method of a measuring physicist, because the mathematics that makes calculations, is not suitable for investigating the circuits.
2: The appearance of the circumference device and a new geometry of circles, which has a formula that produces the pi value (between 3.1416 and 3.164) for each millimeter diameter.
3: The replacement of the irrational numbers with numerators, and the distinction between ribozi arithmetic.
Identifying the line that has a length of a millimeter and a shape - as the fundamental concept of geometry
4: Distinguishing between active time that exists only in the human mind, and passive time that exists in physical reality, and is everywhere.
Passive time is absolute rest and absolute cold, and is the medium that transmits sunlight
5: Abandonment of the particle perception of matter, and transition to a continuous matter.
Matter is a physical form, resulting from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy.
Matter is continuous and non-particle, and has no gravity.
Matter has no quantitative conservation law, because matter is not a quantitative concept.
6: Compared to matter that does not have a quantitative conservation law, energy and all its forms that alternate with each other have a quantitative conservation law, but this law does not apply to passive energy.
Passive energy can be measured with a spring that stretches or contracts, and every "real thing" such as an orange, a stone, a person, a bucket full of water, has its own amount of passive energy.
The heartbeat can be attached to the simple spring, and then time can be measured.
7: But there is another measuring device for the physical realm, and it is the balance beam.
With a balance beam, the power of a physical action is measured, which is evident in the amount of energy and the time it takes to produce it. The transition between forms of energy occurs by way of physical action.
8: The universe is a finite cluster of stars seen in the shape of a disk. This universe moves forever in passive time - in the direction of the disk axis, in a straight line, at a speed of C12 (hypothesis)
Every star in the universe is a central star and a companion star at the same time, and the shape of the orbit of the stars of the universe is a spatial screw. This form of orbit unites all the stars into a single dynamic division - and that is the universe.
9: There is a single universe in infinite space filled with passive time.
The two fundamental concepts in the Newtonian universe are matter and force
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy
The two fundamental concepts in the neural universe are passive time and energy
10: There are 5 continuous quantitative things in the universe, and they are length, area, volume, time and energy.
Any quantity we choose from a continuum, there is always a quantity greater than it, and there is always a quantity smaller than it. The limits of a continuous quantitative thing are zero and infinity.
A. Asbar
Yehuda
Your description is so far from real physics that I have no way to continue the discussion with you.
You threw away the theory of relativity and the theory of quantum. Don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
The very fact that you are talking about classical physics in the world of quantum physics just shows how much you don't understand.
Leoda, Nissim, and Israel
I have to admit, to you, that you disagreed with me, and this is how this rabbi discourse was created that helped introduce neural geometry, and neural physics, and the wonderful universe built from energy and passive time.
Thank you
A. Asbar
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
Yes, the end of gravity has arrived
It is impossible to explain the structure of the universe, as one explains the structure of a washing machine
Every washing machine has a skeleton, and all the movements of the washing machine are understood in relation to the skeleton.
But the universe does not have a skeleton, so it is impossible to apply a machine explanation to it.
In the Newtonian explanation, you have to imagine a spring stretched between the Earth and the Moon, and the tension of the spring is supposed to show the "gravitational force between the Earth and the Sun" that prevents the Moon from "escapeing" into space.
The explanation of the universe must be miraculous, and it is possible to formulate many miraculous explanations.
Every star in the universe is a central star and an orbiting star at the same time.
The Sun is a central star for the Earth orbiting the Sun, and the Earth is a central star for the Moon orbiting it.
Every star in the universe is central and encompassing at the same time, is it possible to give a mechanical explanation for this complex movement?
Is it possible to give a mechanical explanation that every planet is always moving, and a resting planet does not exist in reality?
And what now ? We will connect all the stars of the universe with tensioned imaginary springs, which will represent the gravitational force between the stars.
Why don't the stars move in miraculous harmony without the pressure of springs?
It is forbidden to give a mechanical explanation for the universe, because the explanation must be based on the realization of wonderful ideas, such as the law of conservation of energy, or the law of the motion of stars, in space spiral orbits.
And why explain the movements of the stars with the help of tiny particles?
Isn't it better to explain that the stars move, since their nature is always to move
It remains only to describe the natural course of motion of stars, and the wonderful universe is found and exists forever. Many times I have included the article Wonderful Universe... but apparently it has no readers,
Yes, the end of the buoyancy has come and there is no gravity, and there are no mechanical explanations,
There are laws of nature and the universe fulfills them.
The law of conservation of energy applies to all types of energy, except passive energy.
Every actual body in the universe has its own varying amount of passive energy.
An actual body is built from a combination of amounts of passive time and energy, and it has
Variable passive energy.
A. Asbar
"And the ratio of the circumferences of the cylinders was revealed by the circumference (as not equal) to the ratio of the diameters.
This is a tiny inequality, but it exists without a shadow of a doubt.'
If the ratio is not equal "without a shadow of a doubt", then the experiment is 100% accurate, so why did you write later:
"In neurophysics, an experiment unknown to science should be conducted, much more accurate than the scope experiment."
More accurate than an experiment that succeeded without a shadow of a doubt?
Stupid liar.
I have never measured the ratio between the circumference of a circle and its diameter, known as pie.
I asked using the scope a simple question.
Is the ratio of the diameters of the cylinders in the device (equal to the ratio of the circumferences of the cylinders).
The diameter ratio is known according to the measurements of the cylinder manufacturers,
And the ratio of the circumferences of the cylinders was revealed by the circumference (as not equal) to the ratio of the diameters.
This is a tiny inequality, but it exists without a shadow of a doubt.
The conclusion - each circle has its own special pi value, and the mathematicians were wrong when they determined that all the circles together have a pi value, and it is slightly greater than 3.14
After the circumference experiment, one can talk about an infinite number of circles whose diameter is between zero mm and infinite mm, and each circle has
His special pie number.
These infinite pi numbers are in a narrow range, between 3.1416 and 3.164, and they obey the following rule.
The smaller the circle, the bigger the pie.
This is the whole story that created a revolution in geometry, and the mathematicians are not ready to accept it.
If the mathematicians accept this assurance, they will have to admit that all mathematical activity on the subject of circles,
From the days of Archimedes until today, it is a mistake.
That is why there is huge opposition to the scope experiment, and without repeating it, they state that it is not accurate and contains a mistake.
I am not moved by their determination, and even understand them.
A. Asbar
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
Yoda
"Very simple, we'll jump, if I take off for a gliding journey like a balloon then the planet is a dummy planet and if we continue and sit down then it's a real planet!"
There is no difference, that's why the principle is called the principle of equivalence. If you are in space on a board accelerating with an acceleration of g and you jump, you will rise to a height just as little as you would rise in the land and come back and hit the board.
If you free-fall from a great height towards a concentrated neutron star with an acceleration of say 20g, you will feel exactly the same as when you fall towards the Earth or the Sun: nothing.
And I told you that the moron will not explain why it takes less energy to raise the same body to the same height on the moon, but instead came out with arrogant announcements links and quotes..
to upset
I reserve the honor to respond to you personally, specifically and separately.
and for our purposes.
My work involves streamlining factories and I have learned not to underestimate any idea I hear or come up with in my head. The analysis of the ideas, even the mistaken ones, will be the basis for a new and original development. Go, my friend, do the continuation of the scope experiment, as Israel asked you or I suggested a continuation experiment with identical wheels and you can draw conclusions about the "deviation" that exists, if, at all, in your experimental set-up.
Remember, pi today, is measured up to a million digits after the point, and it doesn't seem to me that a mechanical machine (the scope) would reach a greater degree of accuracy.
But, you say other things, and unlike my "flattering" friends, I see your approach to science as a source of pearls of wisdom. For example, everyone talks about the gravitational pull of the stars, but Israel and my own and... You, understand that the mechanism of action must be other than giving the attribute to the source of the attribute, this is an idolatrous approach to do so. A volcano for example has the attribute or idol in charge.
Aristotle excelled in this idolatrous approach, who gave qualities and desires to everyone, for example the desire to reach the concentration of the people of your kind, for example the rivers want to go to their place of concentration, i.e. to the sea, the smoke wants to go to... clouds, the fire to the stars, and the stone will want to reach the earth, that is, not gravity, Do you understand?, it is a desire of stones to reach the earth.
So we check the gravity, and try to come up with different solutions, for example the revised Pushing Gravity idea.
So far. I suggested you, don't be upset, don't get stuck on one idea that we think is wrong, a fertile mind like yours will be able to come up with (and bring up) more ideas.
All the best
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
To Israel
Why did I disappoint you?? It is absolutely clear to us that at a thousand gravitational accelerations I will be like a reddish carpet. My mass is about 100 kg and that's only in single g, in 1000 g I will weigh about 100 tons and that's stressful.
To your second question, how do we find out if the planet is a dummy planet?? Very simply, we'll jump, if I rise up for a gliding journey like a balloon then the planet is a dummy planet and if we continue and sit down then it's a real planet!
for miracles
The pushing particles are perhaps the smallest elementary particles. Certainly smaller than the Natrino, it seems to me that they don't have an electric charger. They will get a random spin and angular momentum depending on the previous collision they made between them. Now regarding valves there is a problem, I guess their speed is very close to the speed of light. But this does not mean that the theory of relativity will have to operate between them as well, after all no measurements were made of such tiny sizes, and according to David Yom it is not certain that relativity activates them or the Newtonian theory or otherwise.
Regarding curvature in motion near a planet: most of them will move like netrins and not collide with anything, a few will collide with the star itself or the planet, let's say 100 percent, that is, 99 particles come from above for every 100 that come from below through the star or planet, therefore, the particles moving forward will have a deviation towards a star Halkhet or the star, because of the difference between 99 and XNUMX.
Another interesting statistic that I deduced is that the average free path between the collisions and the pushing particles between them is about 1.5 light years, (almost 100,000 astronomical units). I deduced this from the Newtonian explanation of the precession of Mercury.
More details on my website Simple Universe
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Why did Newton not state that the weight of a stone is the passive energy of the stone? Because the concept of energy and the law of conservation of energy appeared many years after Newton's time.
Even when the law of conservation of energy was formulated ((the forms of energy change but the amount is always conserved) it was not explicitly emphasized that passive energy does not participate in the law of conservation.
The identification of passive energy, as a type of energy that does not participate in the law of conservation, appears only in neurophysics.
The concept of passive time also appears only in neurophysics.
Also the perception of matter as a physical form (constructed from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy) appears only in neurophysics.
Neural physics, and neural geometry are so revolutionary, and one should not be surprised at the enormous resistance they generate in conventional standard science.
A. Asbar
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92%27%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A1_%D7%92%27%D7%95%D7%9C
Yehuda
Are you claiming that your particles are created in a supernova? I understand that they are formed as part of an interaction between elementary particles. Why don't we detect these particles in the axle?
Can you tell me something about the properties of the particles? mass? Charger? Spin? Angular momentum?
One last thing - I didn't understand what makes these particles go around the sun. Why don't they continue in a straight line?
Yoda, ask the idiot why when you lift the same bag of cement to the same height on the moon you need to spend much less work.
Look how he starts making announcements, pointing to links, chattering, talking, twisting, sweating, but no answer.
He will admit, in matters of pushing, I am disappointed, disappointed, disappointed.
What, if you are in 1000g gravity you still won't feel the particles?
And how would you know if the chair you are sitting on is in gravity or the star the chair is on is a massless dummy star that is actually accelerating?
30 submissions.
to yoda
There is a simple answer to Israel's question, but in order to use it, you must believe that matter has no gravitational force, and therefore the earth does not attract in accelerated motion - an orange that is released from it.
The orange falls by itself, and the accelerated movement is required, just to comply with a very important law of nature, which is the law of conservation of energy.
If the orange falls from the roof of a tall tower, the intensity of the impact on the ground, shows a large amount of energy.
If the orange falls from the height of the first floor of the tower, the force of the impact on the ground will present a much smaller amount of energy.
Therefore, the free fall does not take place at a constant speed, but at an accelerated speed, just to comply with the law of conservation of energy.
Think of a construction worker lifting a bag of cement to the third floor, how much energy does he invest in this operation.
And think about a construction worker lifting a sack of cement to the seventh floor, how much energy he invests in this operation.
In order for the law of conservation of energy to hold, in an experiment in which a bag of cement is released from the third and seventh positions, the free fall must take place in an accelerated motion, and not at a constant speed.
There is no force emanating from the earth, and it is designed to drop cement bags to the ground.
If there was such a force, the law of conservation of energy would not hold.
Hamlet's sack experiment easily disproves the Newtonian theory.
All scientific theories must be rejected.
Every scientific theory inevitably produces an act, which disproves the theory.
If a theory does not produce such an act, it is not a scientific theory.
Newton's and Einstein's theories about the universe are supposed to be scientific theories, so they must be rejected.
The neural theory about the structure of the universe is also supposed to be a scientific theory, so it too will be disqualified.
But there is an unusual scientific theory.
The geometric neural theory is a scientific theory, but this theory will never be disproved.
Why won't she be disqualified? Since its disqualification must prove a state of equality,
And a state of perfect equality cannot be proven.
The neuroscientific theory claims
that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
To disqualify it, it must be proven
Because the ratio of diameters is (yes) equal to the ratio of circumferences
and proof of equality is not possible.
A. Asbar
Dear Israel Shapira
The principle of equivalence is true in a closed system, otherwise, one can simply look out and see if we are resting safely on a large block of mass, creating gravity, or accelerating with a nice rocket, i.e. acceleration.
Your dark attempt not to indicate whether the system is closed, or not, is a (failed) attempt to extort a Nobel Prize from me if I succeeded in contradicting the principle of equivalence.
But let's ignore it, and focus on your question: why don't we feel pressures in free fall?
For the purpose of the answer, we will list the two types of existing pressures:
A. mental pressures.
B. physical pressures.
Regarding mental pressures, I'm sorry, but I feel them when I fall even from a height of zero, and I think that the above situation is normal for every person. You apparently mean physical pressures (section B)
First of all, let's agree that as a living being at a temperature of over 300 Kelvin, it is clear to us that pressure is acting on us in a state of free fall, otherwise our meager body would be boiling and shattering!
Here again there are two types of physical pressures:
A. Physical stresses in non-contact spaceflight.
B. Physical pressures in the buttock area, usually while sitting.
Let's start with section A: Physical pressures in non-contact space flight?
The answer: the reason for this is purely evolutionary, for what to feel?, I understand if the question was asked in the case of our tailed monkey ancestors, who move between the branches of trees, where it is of evolutionary importance to feel the pressure, then.... Maybe they actually do feel pressure?, food for thought.
For us, the tailless, from a neural point of view, evolution would have decided that the passive time is over, and life is about to end, and pie will fade like the historical pie and... hals, it's over!
Here you are already angry and furious:
So why don't we feel pressure differences in free fall???!!!
But Sally, calm down, I'm already answering your question!
Patience, I'm about to finish.
So we are left with section B, pressures in the buttock area.
Here, again, we have two options:
A. Sitting position with a chair
B. Sitting without a chair.
Let's start with section A, you fall but you sit calmly on a chair and feel calm without mental pressure and buttock pressure.
Second option, with section B, there is no chair and we are in free fall, so it will seem to me that we are under pressure,
I'm sure Nissim is angry about the "I think" answer
I hope you, Israel Shapira, are satisfied with the detailed answer.
All the best and Happy holidays!
And please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda
Are you claiming that there is an interaction between the particles we know and the particles of gravity?
Up until now I understood that you reject general relativity, but - now you also reject the standard model??
Can you tell me what the properties of your particles are? mass? Angular momentum? Are they bosons or fermions? Do they have luggage? After all, you claim that they are created from familiar particles - so it must have such properties (and other properties such as isospin and color....)
Yehuda
I understand, throwing the principle of conservation of energy into the trash. Paddle.
You can't have a serious discussion that way.
Note why the mathematical academy does not accept the revolutionary scope experiment.
https://alaxon.co.il/article/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%94%D7%A4%D7%9B%D7%9F-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%93/
A. Asbar
To Judah
It's better that you supervise re-measurement, instead of using a worthless barbara that never helps.
Waiting patiently here, the Mickelson Murray experiment and the scope experiment.
A. Asbar, the inventor of the scope
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
to Israel, but Sali
Hachan, you are right, and the date is 1887. - Admitting and leaving, Yeruham.
Regarding a site or not a site - the experiment expected to receive different speeds of light depending on the speed of the earth through the site during the different hours of the day and seasons. But the result was that there was no change in the speed of light in the various measurements. That is, the light does not use the site for its movement.
It is interesting to see what was the conclusion drawn from the experiment, according to the Hebrew Wikipedia:-
"... in retrospect it was a confirmation of Einstein's special theory of relativity published in 1905, which denies the existence of the ether medium." End quote.
That is
It was a confirmation of the theory of private attribution - I agree.
And denying the existence of the middleman of the site - I do not agree! See my previous response to miracles and get upset.
And regarding the pushing pressures, it's in the next response. After we put a piece of cheese in our mouth (Shavuot!)
All the best and Happy holidays!!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Dear Nissim, how are you?
You asked on 3.6.22 at 4:52
"Yehuda, how is it possible that the particles (pushing particles) go around the sun? They are in accelerated motion - so where does the power come from??"
My answer - you would be right Nissim, if there was not an endless supply of my pushing particles, all the time and from every direction. Only this could ensure the rotations around the sun of the planets. The particles will also be affected. Because of their much faster speed they will receive an average deviation towards the sun. The particles, by their very nature, were created mainly in the Big Bang and not only that, they are also created in super novae and very possibly also in the standard radiation of a star, similar to the formation of netrins in our universe. Such activity of formation will cause certain regions of the universe to be denser in pushing particles, or less in them. If I am right in my assumption, then such a region could be, for example, the region of the great attractor and of course also the environment of the universe which is clearly a region low in pushing particles and the universe will move to it, without the need for dark energy.
Another thing that will happen due to the expansion of the universe is that the number of pushing particles will decrease and its density will decrease. An immediate result of such a reduction will be that bodies will lose their weight (see article:- "In kg losing its weight" here in Science), and the acceleration of the grief expansion of the entire universe will increase.
I hope I gave a sufficient answer.
All the best and Happy holidays!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yoda
Not 1866 – 1887.
Not if there is a site - the speed of the land through the site.
Don't worry - this case is for your exclusive care. Don't expect any substantive response from the moron, just bombastic announcements.
Pushing - you didn't answer why we don't feel pressure differences in free fall.
There are several responses awaiting my response and I will refer to them, not exactly in the order of their appearance or importance.
I will start with Esbar's response from 3.6.22 at 12:11, the title:
"The Mickelson Morley experiment and the Hakep experiment".
I will write in a few words my opinion about the two experiments.
The Mickelson Morley experiment was done in 1866 and tried to test if light uses its movement in a medium known as "ether". The experiment established in an amazingly precise way that the light does not use the ether for its movement and hence came to the (erroneous) conclusion published in most textbooks and supported by most academics, that "the ether does not exist!" The only conclusion that had to be made is that the light does not use the site for its movement. point. And it's not the same! "Non-use", does not determine the conclusion of "non-existence"!
Example - the light also does not use my car for its movement, and this does not determine anything about the existence or non-existence of my car.
We will move on to the well-known and discussed experiment here on our science website - the "extent experiment".
First of all, Asbar, the creator of the experiment, refuses to subject the experiment to a strict test. He refuses to run the experiment in more rounds (suggested by commenter Israel Shapira),
And in addition, he refuses to do the experiment with two identical wheels, (I suggested) which would have succeeded in proving the existence or non-existence of friction in the system or a possible small deviation in the diameters of the "identical" wheels in the experiment. I'm sorry dear Asbar, but there is always uncertainty in a physical experiment and you will never be able to do an experiment with the accuracy of a million digits after the dot, as the accuracy of Pi, the only existing one, in our beloved universe has already been measured!
I'm sorry to disappoint you, saddened, but not from the scope experiment (partial in essence!), you will receive scientific recognition.
So now I'm hungry, and no Mickelson Morley or Hikpan experiment will keep me from having a Shabbat and holiday meal!
Please respond gently and compassionately!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Israel
Have you ever heard of "total stupidity"? It is similar to "passive stupidity".
Poetic cosmology
The passive tense surrounds us,
And we move through it.
I asked him, and I didn't answer.
Wait some time
he said
Who are you ? I asked
I am the passive tense,
I belong to nature
I lead the light and color.
Where you ? I made it difficult
I fill the terrible space,
And it is now full of a river.
The energy is also with me, its power is beyond words,
And together, we create the material.
I know the material,
I touched him and he is right here.
You can't touch me
But inside me you are free to move.
Are you really time?
After all, the time I know always flies away.
I have no past - said the passive tense - nor a future.
I'm always here, I'm not a guest.
I am the real time, and the energy is always with me.
The passive time heralds the emergence of the new universe operating without gravity.
In the new universe, matter is in the form of a physical form, resulting from adding amounts of passive time and energy.
A. Asbar
For those who doubt the existence of passive time that fills the infinite space (and there are not even stars in this space), will try to explain why we are all sure of the existence of active time, which disappears as soon as we think about it.
Active time, which is so useful in everyday life, does not exist at all in physical reality, and it exists only in human consciousness.
As soon as we decided that between every two heartbeats, there is an amount of active time, the possibility was created to measure an amount of free fall time, with the help of an amount of heartbeats.
These two quantities of time exist only in human consciousness, and do not exist in physical reality.
On the other hand - passive time exists right in physical reality, (just as distance exists in physical reality).
And just as distance is measurable, so passive time is measurable.
All infinite space is full of passive time, and is completely at rest and completely cold.
The idea of passive time does not appear in the Newtonian universe, nor does it appear in the Einsteinian universe.
This is the medium in which waves of passive time move, called light waves, or electromagnetic waves.
A. Asbar
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The Mickelson-Murray experiment and the scope experiment.
Both experiments are in the field of tiny phenomena, which are very difficult to detect.
The Mickelson-Murray experiment was looking for "something" and did not find it, and the scope experiment was looking for "something" and it did find it.
The Mickelson-Murray experiment did not reveal the existence of a material medium in space, because there is no such material medium.
The scope experiment discovered the idea of a changing pie, because pie does change.
And back to the Mickelson-Murray experiment,
According to Asbar's view, there is a medium, but it is not material.
The middle is passive time, which is completely rested and completely cold.
Light waves, or electromagnetic waves are waves of passive time.
The speed of propagation of passive time waves is C in all directions.
The idea of passive time, will change the theory of relativity, and the idea that light spreads in empty space.
The changing pi idea has already changed geometry, and mathematics operating in the geometric field.
A. Asbar
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%99_%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%9C%D7%99
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You will find idiots like you who will read the nonsense you write, but at least you first learn to write without errors, or you also reinvent Hebrew like mathematics, geometry and physics.
Israel
I'm not going to sound like an idiot.
Yehuda
How can the particles go around the sun? They are in accelerated motion - so where does the power come from??
Look for the connection between neural geometry, and the structure of the neural universe, then relax.
A. Asbar
"In my imagination"
Does anyone volunteer to explain what an imaginary experiment is? Maybe you are nice? Maybe you are an imaginary nice?
From the language innovations of the great thinker..
And what is the innovation in punctuation in the sentence:
There are no particles in the infinite space in which the universe moves.
(Is there a limit to stupidity?)
There are no particles in the infinite space in which the universe moves.
Infinite space is full of passive time, which is by its very nature absolute rest and absolute cold.
The stars move through passive time, and it does not interfere with their movement.
The stars are in perpetual motion by nature, and no external force is needed to move them.
It's time to break free from the Newtonian universe, and accept the neural universe.
More details in the attached article
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
"In an imaginary experiment where you let go of an orange falling into a hole in the earth, the orange begins to fall with infinite acceleration, and when it
Arriving at the center of the earth, the acceleration has already dropped to zero.'
Not the release of the decade at least?
Miracles,
There is a logical and binding solution to Feynman friction,
Yoda
But why don't we feel pressure differences in free fall? And how can you even distinguish between acceleration and gravity (according to the principle of equivalence).
And what was Gutta claiming about this?
A few years ago Rabbi Uri Zohar came to our house for a lecture. He said that the person who made him repent was a young man who showed him a small sprout in the room that grew into a tree.
Where did all the wood material come from? The guy was hard, and so was Uri. After all, he is in a closed room and has nowhere to get a supply of material except from the Creator.
I tried to make it difficult and explain the matter of metabolism from water and air through photosynthesis, but Rabbi Zohar waved me off. Potoma? bullshit!
Of blessed memory.
for miracles
Beyond all the arguments we have on the subject of poshing, we also have some agreements. Contrary to what many have stated (Richard Feynman for example) as if there should be friction in the movement of the planets through the two pushing particles, we both agree that there is no friction because the two pushing particles themselves are also driven by the two pushing particles and they also rotate the sun or at least have a vector in the direction of the movement of the planets .
But, when the movement of the spacecraft will be contrary to the movement of the planets then we will have to notice friction for example the "Pioneer Anomaly". Pioneer is a probe that was sent outside the solar system and on its way crossed the orbits of the planets, and indeed, it was discovered that it was slowing down, as if friction was acting on it. The attempts to explain the phenomenon led NASA to the conclusion that a lamp remained lit and its radiation was acting in the right direction and at the right level, causing the deceleration. In the meantime, the phenomenon appeared in several probes and remained unexplained. It seems to us that this is an explanation suitable for the pushing theory.
You and I have some disagreements on this subject such as whether the pushing collisions are elastic or plastic but this does not change the conclusion that the anomaly phenomenon will make future space travel difficult, especially the long ones.
You are right in your comment that the pushing particles should have been discovered by now. I will not use the excuses we are used to hearing about dark matter - too small, too dark, etc., that it is also not detected, and perhaps the explanation is radiation pushing, as our friend Israel suggests.
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Israel
Wasn't it supposed to speed up satellites? They are also in free fall.
Apart from the fact that without friction it is impossible to create gravity, I don't understand what these particles "collide" to create gravity. How do they affect electrons? about photons??
It's also a bit strange to me that at CERN they look at thousands of trillions of collisions every year - and even a collision with gravitational particles???
I replied two days ago and it didn't go through
A. Asbar
Sabdarmish Yehuda responded:
May 31, 2022 at 12:37 p.m
To the machine that confirms the responses, please confirm the response, it's been two days already!!
to upset
I will refer to your comments from your response from 29.5 at 15:12
There is nothing permanent in natural reality.
So what about the speed of light??
There is no fixed physical length that exists in nature,
I have three rulers at home, doesn't this contradict your words??
There is no constant speed in nature, (what about the speed of light??) and there is no constant acceleration speed in nature.
The speed of free fall is at a variable acceleration between zero and infinity.
Error: between zero and the speed of light
There are no regular beats in nature.
A mistake, cesium, for example, pulses at a constant rate and the size of the second is determined based on it
The clear sign of natural reality is change and change of change.
Usually you are right….
Everything changes in nature, and a snapshot that was will never return.
Regarding a snapshot... I tend to agree with you
There are no physical constants, no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
Error There are constants, mostly constants such as Pi and also the natural number e 2.718281828 and many others,
And suppose you are right in everything, so what is the conclusion?, not to investigate?, not to look for constants or close to constants in science??
But I'm sorry, you're completely wrong in everything!!
Please respond gently
Good luck Yoda, as always.
And on the subject of pushing: if the particles are the source of gravity, why don't we feel the pressure difference in free fall?
We definitely feel downward pressure only when we are sitting, and certainly when we are at an acceleration of 5g (ask Nissim).
So why not in free fall?
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Sabdarmish Yehuda responded:
May 31, 2022 at 12:37 p.m
To the machine that confirms the responses, please confirm the response, it's been two days already!!
to upset
I will refer to your comments from your response from 29.5 at 15:12
There is nothing permanent in natural reality.
So what about the speed of light??
There is no fixed physical length that exists in nature,
I have three rulers at home, doesn't this contradict your words??
There is no constant speed in nature, (what about the speed of light??) and there is no constant acceleration speed in nature.
The speed of free fall is at a variable acceleration between zero and infinity.
Error: between zero and the speed of light
There are no regular beats in nature.
A mistake, cesium, for example, pulses at a constant rate and the size of the second is determined based on it
The clear sign of natural reality is change and change of change.
Usually you are right….
Everything changes in nature, and a snapshot that was will never return.
Regarding a snapshot... I tend to agree with you
There are no physical constants, no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
Error There are constants, mostly constants such as Pi and also the natural number e 2.718281828 and many others,
And suppose you are right in everything, so what is the conclusion?, not to investigate?, not to look for constants or close to constants in science??
But I'm sorry, you're completely wrong in everything!!
I will try again
To check if a certain speed is constant, you need to refer to another speed that is sure to be constant.
But there is no other speed like that.
There are no rulers that grow on trees. Arbitrarily, a metal rod was chosen whose length is its length, and they put it in the museum for a shift. They also gave him a name and he is a meter, they could have given him the name Kokuriko.
In an imaginary experiment where you let go of an orange falling into a hole in the earth, the orange begins to fall with infinite acceleration, and when it
Arriving at the center of the Earth, the acceleration has already dropped to zero.
To check if cesium really beats at a constant rate, you have to refer to another beat that really beats at a constant rate.
But there is none.
There are no physical constants and no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
What should this constant be? Ratio number?
Are there two quantitative phenomena of energy in natural reality, which indicate the ratio number 7?
Are there in natural reality two quantitative phenomena of Zemo, indicating the ratio number 188?
Are there in the reality of geometric shapes, shapes that produce some ratio number?
The human longing "for something permanent" created the legend of a miraculous ratio number that cannot be written down.
The scope experiment shattered this legend, when he discovered an infinite number of miraculous ratios, located in a narrow range, between 3.1416 and 3.164
Is there a ratio number in the reality of the invention of numbers? Anyone who knows such a ratio number, please introduce it.
The role of ratio numbers is to describe shapes, and the invention of numbers is entirely quantitative and has no shapes.
A. Asbar
To the machine that confirms the responses, please confirm the response, it's been two days already!!
to upset
I will refer to your comments from your response from 29.5 at 15:12
There is nothing permanent in natural reality.
So what about the speed of light??
There is no fixed physical length that exists in nature,
I have three rulers at home, doesn't this contradict your words??
There is no constant speed in nature, (what about the speed of light??) and there is no constant acceleration speed in nature.
The speed of free fall is at a variable acceleration between zero and infinity.
Error: between zero and the speed of light
There are no regular beats in nature.
A mistake, cesium, for example, pulses at a constant rate and the size of the second is determined based on it
The clear sign of natural reality is change and change of change.
Usually you are right….
Everything changes in nature, and a snapshot that was will never return.
Regarding a snapshot... I tend to agree with you
There are no physical constants, no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
Error There are constants, mostly constants such as Pi and also the natural number e 2.718281828 and many others,
And suppose you are right in everything, so what is the conclusion?, not to investigate?, not to look for constants or close to constants in science??
But I'm sorry, you're completely wrong in everything!!
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
to upset
I will refer to your comments from your response from 29.5 at 15:12
There is nothing permanent in natural reality.
So what about the speed of light??
There is no fixed physical length that exists in nature,
I have three rulers at home, doesn't this contradict your words??
There is no constant speed in nature, (what about the speed of light??) and there is no constant acceleration speed in nature.
The speed of free fall is at a variable acceleration between zero and infinity.
Error: between zero and the speed of light
There are no regular beats in nature.
A mistake, cesium, for example, pulses at a constant rate and the size of the second is determined based on it
The clear sign of natural reality is change and change of change.
Usually you are right….
Everything changes in nature, and a snapshot that was will never return.
Regarding a snapshot... I tend to agree with you
There are no physical constants, no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
Error There are constants, mostly constants such as Pi and also the natural number e 2.718281828 and many others,
And suppose you are right in everything, so what is the conclusion?, not to investigate?, not to look for constants or close to constants in science??
But I'm sorry, you're completely wrong in everything!!
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Stop treating this idiot. Not for you.
Yoda, the idiot is your responsibility.
There is nothing permanent in natural reality.
There is no fixed physical length that exists in nature,
There is no constant speed in nature, nor is there a constant acceleration in nature.
The speed of free fall is at a variable acceleration between zero and infinity.
There are no regular beats in nature.
The clear sign of natural reality is change and change of change.
Everything changes in nature, and a snapshot that was will never return.
There are no physical constants, no geometric constants, and certainly no mathematical constants.
A. Asbar
So the constants also change over time?
variable constants..
Dear Israel Shapira
The question is whether there can be a relationship between the constants of electricity and magnetism and the background temperature. The entire expected difference to the index is only about XNUMX cm per second per year at the speed of light.
I'll check this out.
good week
Sabdarmish Yehuda
The speed of light is a root of the inverse of the product of the electrical and magnetic constants, not of the background temperature.
I was talking about the speed of light, not the speed of the universe, I'll leave that up to him if he wants to
Back to the Liverpool - Real Madrid game
Bye
Sabdarmish Yehuda
I was talking about the speed of light, not the speed of the universe, I'll leave that up to him if he wants to
Back to the Liverpool - Real Madrid game
Bye
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda, you were indeed right
But in the hole, you didn't minute
Even if the speed of light was greater in the past - what is the connection between the speed of light and the speed of the universe? The speed of the universe relative to what?
gibberish gibberish.
Israel Shapira, Asbar and other science commentators
Regarding the speed of light:
It is customary to attribute the constancy of the speed of light to the Michelson Morley experiment which showed that the speed of light is the same in every direction.
The Mickelson-Morlay experiment could not say anything about the size of the speed of light in the past or in the future, because for this purpose it is necessary to measure at least a number of time points, and compare them. This was not done experimentally.
It is known that: the speed of waves in a gas is proportional to the root of the absolute temperature of the gas,
There is no reason why this should not be the same for the speed of light.
Therefore, until he determines otherwise:-
The speed of light changes and is proportional to the root of the background temperature of the universe T.
The speed of light C today is 299,792,458 meters per second
And the background temperature of the universe is 2.725 degrees Kelvin.
hence:
The speed of light was 12C when the background temperature of the universe was 144 times that of today, i.e. 392.4 degrees Kelvin
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
In honor of every math department in Israel and the world.
A sincere mathematician is needed, who will present the failure of the mathematical calculation against the success of the physical measurement,
in the geometric field of circles.
There will also be a physicist on stage, and a pencil and a toothpick will be placed on the table.
And that's how the show is supposed to go
A pencil and a toothpick are placed on the table, and the pencil is longer than the toothpick.
The number of the ratio between their lengths can only be obtained by the measuring physicist.
The physicist's method is simple -
He measured the length of the pencil with a ruler and got a result between 218 mm and 219 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 218.5 mm
In the next step, he measured the length of the toothpick, and got a result of 77 mm to 78 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 77.5 mm
Now he switched to using a calculator, and with its help he obtained the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick by fractional operation. 218.5 divided by 77.5 equals 2.8193548
The open-hearted mathematician who was also supposed to obtain the said ratio number, did nothing, but began with a statement saying:
Mathematics is unable to find the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick, because mathematics does not know how to handle two free lengths.
The length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick are free lengths, and are not related.
On the other hand, mathematics knows how to find the number of the ratio between two related lengths, such as for example the length of the side of the square, and the length of the diagonal of the square.
And the open-hearted mathematician went on to say.
Also the length of a chord in a circle and the length of its arc are two related lengths, but these are related lengths of other forms, a straight length for a chord, and a circular length for an arc.
Even with such related lengths that have other shapes, mathematics does not know how to handle, and it does not have the ability to find their ratio number.
And the mathematician added without hesitation.
Mathematics only knows how to deal with lengths that have a straight shape, provided that they are connected. Such related lengths appear in triangles built from straight line segments, and mathematics only knows how to deal with such data.
And in conclusion, the open-hearted mathematician added and said:
It is difficult for me to say the following sentence, but this is the truth.
The preoccupation with circuits belongs to physicists who measure.
Give them a circle with a string, and with a simple measurement with a ruler, they will find the length of its arc.
Admittedly, the measurement is not really accurate, but mathematicians don't have it
At all there is a formula for calculating the length of the arc, and they have no idea how to solve the mystery of the length of the arc.
Therefore, the scope experiment is to be welcomed, which succeeded in making a very, very precise measurement, which discovered the following anti-equation.
The ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
And here the open-hearted mathematician stood and spread his hands in a theatrical movement and said:
And we mathematicians have always thought,
that the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences
Unfortunately, the open-hearted mathematician added, it's time to remove mathematics from the geometric field of circles, because only physicists know how to handle circles, and that's by way of
Accurate measurements.
A. Asbar
he knows the answer
The failure of the mathematical calculation versus the success of the physical measurement.
A frank mathematician, a physicist, a pencil and a toothpick.
A pencil and a toothpick are placed on the table, and the pencil is longer than the toothpick.
The number of the ratio between their lengths can only be obtained by the measuring physicist.
The physicist's method is simple -
He measured the length of the pencil with a ruler and got a result between 218 mm and 219 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 218.5 mm
In the next step, he measured the length of the toothpick, and got a result of 77 mm to 78 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 77.5 mm
Now he switched to using a calculator, and with its help he obtained the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick by fractional operation. 218.5 divided by 77.5 equals 2.8193548
The mathematician who was also supposed to obtain the number of the said ratio, did nothing, but opened a statement and said.
Mathematics is unable to find the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick, because mathematics does not know how to handle two free lengths.
The length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick are free lengths, and are not related.
On the other hand, mathematics knows how to find the number of the ratio between two related lengths, such as for example the length of the side of the square, and the length of the diagonal of the square.
And the mathematician went on to say.
Also the length of a chord in a circle and the length of its arc are two related lengths, but these are related lengths of other forms, a straight length for a chord, and a circular length for an arc.
Even with such related lengths that have other shapes, mathematics does not know how to handle, and it does not have the ability to find their ratio number.
Mathematics only knows how to deal with lengths that have a straight shape, provided that they are connected.
Such related lengths appear in triangles.
And in conclusion, the open-hearted mathematician added: It's hard for me to say this, but this is the truth.
The preoccupation with circuits belongs to physicists who measure.
Give them a circle with a string, and with a simple (not really accurate) measurement they will find the length of its arc.
Therefore, the scope experiment, which succeeded in making a very, very accurate measurement, is to be welcomed.
who discovered that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
And here the mathematician stood and spread his hands in a theatrical movement and said:
And we mathematicians always thought that the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences
A. Asbar
and the rooster Kokuriko
and the cuckoo Koko
You're all crazy, but ask the genius thinker if an arc has any length at all - not if its length can be calculated, but if it has any length at all - and see what the moron will answer.
To Judah who doubts the existence of dark matter and dark energy, and perhaps also doubts the existence of attraction, or gravity.
I'm sure there is no such thing as dark matter, because there is no such thing as matter
Matter is a physical form, built from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy.
In Newton's formulas, matter appears as a quantitative concept, and from this, conclusions arise
Variations of missing material and the like.
The neural universe operates without the existence of any force. But according to ideas that come true, such as the idea of energy conservation, or the idea of striving for a state of supreme symmetrical sensitivity.
I suggest you re-examine your theory, and feel free to introduce new ideas.
A. Asbar
Enough dodging you damn liar, how did you get to 12, that's the question.
To Judah
You noticed an important detail, the speed of the universe is absolute and there is no way to measure it.
To measure absolute motion one must be in a state of absolute rest, but every human observer is on a moving planet, and he cannot measure absolute motion.
The idea of absolute motion must be in any theory about the structure of the universe.
In neural theory it is specifically about absolute movement of the entire universe, and it is a single universe moving in infinite space full of passive time.
The passive time is the one that is completely at rest, and is the medium that transmits the light waves. The passive tense is also absolute cold, representing absolute zero.
When we are talking about a single universe, we are talking about a finite number of stars in the universe.
These stars move in the form of a spatial helical orbit, and do not move according to the Newtonian description, in a straight orbit that curves due to gravity. This spiral orbit form is what allows all the stars to have one and only movement system, and this system is the universe.
Each star in this system is a central star and a companion star at the same time.
More details in the article I have already attached.
A. Asbar
"Passive time does not appear in the Newtonian universe, nor does it appear in Einstein's universe"
Oh devil, what are you squealing about?
Please leave out the names of the scientists
To them indeed the glory is due
But you're serious, you'll make it
Only as a child, as a baker, to eat.
Yoda, brother Saleno is naive..
Are you perhaps beginning to realize that you have fallen into the trap of a pathetic charlatan who has no life and who managed to get you to read his idiotic musings and even relate to them?
How is Asbar different from any penitent who mutters about a higher power and a wonderful world whose imaginary laws do not need proof?
"The 12C hypothesis does not need an explanation, it exists by itself, and one can only try to disprove it."
did you understand The Baal and Ashtoret hypothesis also exists by itself and one can only try to disprove it.
The Shetia is respected in Kurmiza.
and the bat - with a bat.
Who asked you about passive time active charlatan like you, asked you about 12c.
See in the article from page 21 onwards the subject of the passive tense.
Passive time does not appear in the Newtonian universe, nor does it appear in Einstein's universe
The idea of passive time has never appeared in science, and for the first time it appears in the neural universe.
A. Asbar
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
The hybridization hypothesis between the donkey and the chimpanzee that gave birth to you also exists in its own right and does not require proof.
To make it easier for the science responders, I went to page 4 and I bring from there everything that is said about 12c:
"Hypothesis 12 C The universe moves in eternal perpetual motion in infinite space, in a straight line and in a certain direction. The speed of this motion of persistence, 12 times the speed of light. This movement of perseverance is absolute, and there is no way to measure it." End quote.
Dear Asbar, I'm sorry but there is no explanation here why 12C and not 10.9 or 32.7. Unfortunately, the important part of your explanation is the end of the quote: "What way to measure it" If there is no way to measure it then it is unscientific to say something that cannot be confirmed and put to the test!
We were upset….. You disappointed me!
I will sit at the end of the week and write a 12C response as religiously and legally as I promised Lach Seli Israel Shapira
All the best!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
The 12C hypothesis does not need an explanation, it exists by itself, and one can only try to disprove it.
And now we will move from the wonderful universe, to a pencil and a toothpick placed on the table.
The failure of the mathematical calculation versus the success of the physical measurement.
A frank mathematician, a physicist, a pencil and a toothpick.
A pencil and a toothpick are placed on the table, and the pencil is longer than the toothpick.
The number of the ratio between their lengths can only be obtained by the measuring physicist.
The physicist's method is simple -
He measured the length of the pencil with a ruler and got a result between 218 mm and 219 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 218.5 mm
In the next step, he measured the length of the toothpick, and got a result of 77 mm to 78 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 77.5 mm
Now he switched to using a calculator, and with its help he obtained the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick by fractional operation. 218.5 divided by 77.5 equals 2.8193548
The mathematician who was also supposed to obtain the number of the said ratio, did nothing, but opened a statement and said.
Mathematics is unable to find the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick, because mathematics does not know how to handle two free lengths.
The length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick are free lengths, and are not related.
On the other hand, mathematics knows how to find the number of the ratio between two related lengths, such as for example the length of the side of the square, and the length of the diagonal of the square.
And the mathematician went on to say.
Also the length of a chord in a circle and the length of its arc are two related lengths, but these are related lengths of other forms, a straight length for a chord, and a circular length for an arc.
Even with such related lengths that have other shapes, mathematics does not know how to handle, and it does not have the ability to find their ratio number.
Mathematics only knows how to deal with lengths that have a straight shape, provided that they are connected.
Such related lengths appear in triangles.
And in conclusion, the open-hearted mathematician added: It's hard for me to say this, but this is the truth.
The preoccupation with circuits belongs to physicists who measure.
Give them a circle with a string, and with a simple (not really accurate) measurement they will find the length of its arc.
Therefore, the scope experiment, which succeeded in making a very, very accurate measurement, is to be welcomed.
who discovered that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
And here the mathematician stood and spread his hands in a theatrical movement and said:
And we mathematicians always thought that the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences
A. Asbar
There is no pathetic and lying explanation like you.
Topic 12C appears at the end of page 4 in the article
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
But my friend will thank you! Asbar has already given a detailed and reasoned answer to Lemma 12c!
There is a connection between neural geometry and the structure of the universe
Neural geometry deserves the name physical geometry, and is the geometry of closed circular lines.
In this geometry there is a precise mechanical measuring device - the circumference - and it has measurements.
The geometry of the straight line deserves the name mathematical geometry, because it has calculations based on the Pythagorean theorem.
This geometry deals with triangles built from straight line segments, and has no ability to handle circular or curved lines.
Neural geometry waited patiently for thousands of years, until the technology of metal developed to a very high degree of accuracy, and then it was possible to produce the measuring device that determined that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences
Until the appearance of the circumference, the world of science accepted the erroneous belief of the mathematicians that the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
Neural geometry is physical geometry, and it contains hints about the actual physical reality of the structure of the universe.
The ratio number 1.007 will appear both in neural geometry, and in the structure of the universe.
In neural geometry 1.007 is the number of the ratio between the extreme pi values.
And in the universe 1.007 is the number of the ratio between two absolute speeds, .
A. Asbar
and also:
The circumference experiment is an experiment that includes a very precise measurement, and the experiment proves beyond any doubt that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
The conclusion: every circle has its pi value.
Not to mention:
The mathematics in the circle trap
Mathematics is unable to calculate the circumference of a circle based on a millimeter length of the diameter of the circle, because it is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on a millimeter length of its string.
Is it not clear as day that the only option is 12c?
Don't expect another explanation. Maybe actually the explanation that the experiment is the final arbiter in science (which is true).
Have you ever had the chance to visit Salvata? Have you seen the Blaomich canal?
Dear Israel Shapira!
My friend,
I read your last comment and tears of happiness filled my eyes! How much faith there is in that short response, and I quote.... "Good luck Yehuda". End quote.
I swore: if we upset you will disappoint you falsely, I will give you an explanation not only for 12c but also for 24c,
And even, in Israel, may his name be blessed, I will give you an explanation, for 36c Amen, yes, may it be desired!!!
Dear Asbar, here we are at response 200.
We are all here waiting for your response - your explanation: why and how 12c??
All the best!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Good luck Yoda
Dear Asbar!,
In a sweep!
In honor of the next 200 positive response to us, maybe it's time for you to explain the secret of 12C to the equally dear Israel?
I would also like to know the explanation.
All the best
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Dear Asbar
In honor of the next 200 positive response to us, maybe it's time for you to explain the secret of 12C to the equally dear Israel?
I would also like to know the explanation.
All the best
Sabdarmish Yehuda
What about 12c?
What about 12c?
What about 12c?
There is a connection between neural geometry and the structure of the universe
Neural geometry deserves the name physical geometry, and is the geometry of closed circular lines.
In this geometry there is a precise mechanical measuring device - the circumference - and it has measurements.
The geometry of the straight line deserves the name mathematical geometry, because it has calculations based on the Pythagorean theorem.
This geometry deals with triangles built from straight line segments, and has no ability to handle circular or curved lines.
Neural geometry waited patiently for thousands of years, until the technology of metal developed to a very high degree of accuracy, and then it was possible to produce the measuring device that determined that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences
Until the appearance of the circumference, the world of science accepted the erroneous belief of the mathematicians that the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
Neural geometry is physical geometry, and it contains hints about the actual physical reality of the structure of the universe.
The ratio number 1.007 will appear both in neural geometry, and in the structure of the universe.
In neural geometry 1.007 is the number of the ratio between the extreme pi values.
And in the universe 1.007 is the number of the ratio between two absolute speeds, .
A. Asbar
There is no radius length, there is only bow string length, that's the whole point.
There is no doubt that there is a drawing of a circle, with a string 44 mm long
And there is no doubt that the arc of the string has a certain millimeter length.
That's it, no more data.
Is there a mathematician in the world who can calculate the millimeter length of the bow? There is none
On the other hand, any physicist can measure the length of the arc with a simple ruler, and such a measurement is not really accurate.
So what if it's not really accurate, that's also something - the mathematician has nothing, and he doesn't know how to even approach solving the string and bow problem. .
A conclusion already follows from this, that mathematics with its calculations is not suitable for circles, and it should be content with the area of triangles.
From then on the physicists will handle the circuits with their measurements.
The scope experiment opened the door for measuring physicists, and it established beyond a shadow of a doubt.
The ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
A. Asbar
"There is no way to calculate the length of this arc"
And why a block of stupidity? Because of the stupid neural geometry?
Because according to Cartesian geometry there is no problem in calculating the length of an arc when the radius and the length of the string are known.
Well, start with the bombastic announcements: it's impossible to calculate because that's how I say it..
How about 12c absolute zero like you?
Conclusion B:
Since for every millimeter length of string, an infinite number of bows can be fitted, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of a bow according to a millimeter length of string, is by the following steps.
You need to draw a string of a chosen length (say 18 mm) in a circle whose diameter is greater than 18 mm (say 45 mm), and thus a bow with a string, whose length is 18 mm, will appear in the drawing.
There is no way to calculate the length of this arc, and the only way is to measure its length with a simple ruler, when it is clear that this is not an exact measurement.
A. Asbar
Wow, what are you saying, really?
And we all thought until now that if we have the length of the string, we can also know the length of its arc!
(Which arc exactly, every string of a given length has an infinite number of arcs).
How lucky to have Asbar who discovered this amazing rule..
Miracles, is there a limit to stupidity?
This rule was discovered by Asbar, and he says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the amazing rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them.
From these simple drawings a clear fact is revealed, that in every circle the length of the arc is different.
Several conclusions can be drawn from this fact.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length.
The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for every millimeter length of string, an infinite number of bows can be fitted, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of a bow according to a millimeter length of string, is by the following steps.
You need to draw a string of a chosen length (say 18 mm) in a circle whose diameter is greater than 18 mm (say 45 mm), and thus a bow with a string, whose length is 18 mm, will appear in the drawing.
There is no way to calculate the length of this arc, and the only way is to measure its length with a simple ruler, when it is clear that this is not an exact measurement.
If we were to draw this string that is 18 mm long in a circle with a diameter of 100 mm, we would get a bow that is smaller than the length of the previous bow, and of course we would have to measure its length with a ruler.
It turns out that Asbar's amazing rule always works,
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on the millimeter length of its string, and the only way is to measure its length with a simple ruler.
Since the diameter of a circle is the longest string, it must be treated like any string, and we will also have to measure the length of the arc of this string with a ruler.
From here will come the next difficult conclusion.
There is no way to calculate the length of half the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter, and we will have to measure the length of half the circumference with a simple ruler.
And from here to the most difficult conclusion of all.
There is no way to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter, and we will have to measure the length of the circumference with a simple ruler.
It now turns out that mathematics is able to operate in the geometric field of triangles, and is not able to operate in the geometric field of circles.
The geometric domain of triangles belongs to mathematics and its calculations, while the geometric domain of circles belongs to physics and its measurements.
Esbar's circuit research is really physical research.
For the purpose of this research, a precise mechanical device was built, determined by experiment,
that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
From this result arose a conclusion which stated that every millimeter diameter D of a circle must have a special PI number, and the way was immediately opened to calculate the circumference of the circle according to its millimeter diameter.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
"An amazing rule that prevents mathematics from dealing with circles
This rule was discovered by Asbar, and he says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the amazing rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them.
I also discovered this amazing rule, including most XNUMXrd graders who are learning geometry for the first time..
Oh I forgot, there are those who don't study but are busy inventing geometry..
I'm torn..
Israel
Matan, blowing water and the jerk would get along nicely….. together they have a double digit IQ….
And the donkey yaya yaya
And the rooster Kokuriko..
Nissim, you have to admit that the site's madhouse never stops producing clips..
Where is Matan and blowing water?
The secret of human language
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/ed4559bc-5ce3-4be2-bda4-5924db921061.pdf
Dear Asbar
I looked again at your article about language and types of words, and something bothered me there, the conversations there were conducted between humans only, but in our universe we also talk with animals and you did not analyze how the language was understood here, for example in a conversation with horses: for the words "diyo" And "oysa" has a clear and understandable meaning for horses (and I think also for donkeys). And I think you should have expanded a few sentences on this topic as well. It would also be useful to analyze the conversation of two cats, many of them in between, and I quote:
"meow. Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!”
Here the neighbor's dog usually intervenes with the heb, heb!, heb!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and everyone understands everyone else. And it's not just that I'm telling you about the language of the animals that you left out, because very soon I believe that aliens will arrive in our little world and it is very desirable, dear Nesbar, that we be ready, at least in a nervous manner, to talk with them!!
Don't just get stuck on the Pay issue, there are more topics to develop!
Good Day!
And please respond gently!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Astra Belgina Kish Quiche is readable
The scope experiment determined decisively.
The ratio of diameters (not equal) to the ratio of circumferences
The result: a revolution in geometry and mathematics.
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
A. Asbar
aetzbar
Enough. You're embarrassing yourself.
If you had an iota of self-respect - you would listen to what they tell you. But no - you are sure that you are a genius and that all the world's scientists are idiots.
I'm not talking about your physical disability anymore... Because you are so limited that you are unable to see it.
But, a little self respect???
The support for my previous message was provided by mathematics itself, when it tried to calculate the ratio number
Between the length of the diagonal of the square, along its side.
Asbar discovered that this calculation is similar to a measurement, where the yardstick is a tiny square. (abbreviated as Riboza)
Therefore, Esbar gave him the name Ribozi account.
And since every measurement always ends with two numbers close to each other, and not with a single number, Asbar invented the concept of a number.
And when mathematics itself (operating in the geometric field) is concerned with measurements with riboz, it must welcome the circumference experiment, which directly measured the ratio of the circumferences of two metal cylinders.
The ribozi calculation is a big surprise for mathematicians, and it appears in detail in the attached file.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/45317ede-eca8-48bc-8608-477e5a47c910.pdf
A. Asbar
A perfect fool.
https://youtu.be/yMYLNN2xYu4
A very important note
The failure of the mathematical calculation versus the success of the physical measurement.
A pencil and a toothpick are placed on the table, and the pencil is longer than the toothpick.
The number of the ratio between their lengths can only be obtained by the measuring physicist.
The physicist's method is simple -
He measured the length of the pencil and got a result between 218 mm and 219 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 218.5 mm
In the next step, he measured the length of the toothpick, and got a result of 77 mm to 78 mm
Therefore he chose the middle result of 77.5 mm
Now he switched to using a calculator, and with its help he obtained the number of the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick by fractional operation.
218.5 divided by 77.5 equals 2.8193548
The mathematician standing at the table did nothing, but he began with a statement.
Mathematics is unable to find the ratio between the length of the pencil and the length of the toothpick, because mathematics does not deal with measurements.
Thus mathematics is not able to find the number of the ratio between the length of an arc and the length of its string, because it does not deal with measurements.
The question of the number of the ratio between the length of a bow and the length of its string is a physical question, which can only be answered by way of measurement.
The question of the ratio between the circumference of the circle and its diameter is also a physical question, which can only be answered by means of measurement.
Therefore, the scope experiment, which succeeded in making a very, very accurate measurement, is to be welcomed.
who discovered that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
And here the mathematician stood and spread his hands in a theatrical movement and said:
There are places where physics and its measurements will beat mathematics and its calculations.
A. Asbar
The scope experiment will soon join
https://www.hayadan.org.il/%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%9B%D7%93%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%94%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%91%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9C
A. Asbar
A wise man can learn more from a foolish wish than a fool can learn from a wise answer
Soon the scope experiment will join
https://slideplayer.co.il/slide/17103655/
A. Asbar
The fool will forgive his failure because it will be considered wisdom
To Judah
The circumference experiment comes to determine if the mathematicians are right in stating that Pi is constant in all circles.
If they are right - then the equation must exist in reality...the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
The scope was built specifically to check if this equation appears in reality.
The experiment revealed that in reality there is an inequality... the ratio of the diameters (not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
The conclusion: the mathematicians are not right in their determination.
A. Asbar
What you are trying to do is use the brains of Asbar and others to solve Fermat's theorem, only it seemed to me that Fermat's theorem talks about natural numbers and not whole numbers (which can also be negative).
Dear Gal, your attempt to use Asbar's mind to upgrade the Pythagorean theorem will not succeed because everyone knows that the Nobel Prize is not awarded for mathematics.
Don't worry, I have an idea for an experiment. The experiment is similar to your experiment, but, do the experiment with two identical wheels, I'm almost sure that after a few turns a deviation will appear as if the wheels are not the same size. But if they are without deviation it will strengthen your words. Do the experiment with identical small wheels and in the second step of the experiment switch the wheels between them. Looking forward to hearing your conclusions.
All the best !
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Gal is right, Pythagoras' theorem is wrong.
We demand a retrial for Pythagoras!
And an interesting question on the subject:
Find a non-right triangle with sides a,b,c and number n so that a^n+b^n=c^n
a, b, c, n
All are integers different from 1.
Please kindly respond, thanks
I have a new theory, 4000 years were wrong about the Pythagorean law
I built a machine that checks the law to the thousandth of an inch, and found deviations of 0.05 inches
The Weizmann Institute must repeat the experiments to prove the Galilean theory, after they prove I
Looking forward to the Nobel Prize!!!
According to the theory the universe moves in the form of an epicycloid at a speed of 42C.
A horse with a broken leg...
But yes, horses are intelligent animals….
Sorry, horses.
“If aezbar was a horse...”
Truly miracles, why insult? Do you think a horse has no feelings?
aetzbar
"This rule was discovered by Asbar, and he says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the amazing rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them.
From these simple drawings a clear fact is revealed, that in every circle the length of the arc is different.
Several conclusions can be drawn from this fact."
Archimedes solved this problem. Do you think you are smarter than him?
If so … only you think so…..
If aezbar was a horse…..
Even an evil deaf to a wise man will be considered
You came and found - believe
An amazing rule that prevents mathematics from dealing with circles
This rule was discovered by Asbar, and he says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the amazing rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them.
From these simple drawings a clear fact is revealed, that in every circle the length of the arc is different.
Several conclusions can be drawn from this fact.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length.
The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for every millimeter length of string, an infinite number of bows can be fitted, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of a bow according to a millimeter length of string, is by the following steps.
You need to draw a string of a chosen length (say 18 mm) in a circle whose diameter is greater than 18 mm (say 45 mm), and thus a bow with a string, whose length is 18 mm, will appear in the drawing.
There is no way to calculate the length of this arc, and the only way is to measure its length with a simple ruler, when it is clear that this is not an exact measurement.
If we were to draw this string that is 18 mm long in a circle with a diameter of 100 mm, we would get a bow that is smaller than the length of the previous bow, and of course we would have to measure its length with a ruler.
It turns out that Asbar's amazing rule always works,
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on the millimeter length of its string, and the only way is to measure its length with a simple ruler.
Since the diameter of a circle is the longest string, it must be treated like any string, and we will also have to measure the length of the arc of this string with a ruler.
From here will come the next difficult conclusion.
There is no way to calculate the length of half the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter, and we will have to measure the length of half the circumference with a simple ruler.
And from here to the most difficult conclusion of all.
There is no way to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter, and we will have to measure the length of the circumference with a simple ruler.
It now turns out that mathematics is able to operate in the geometric field of triangles, and is not able to operate in the geometric field of circles.
The geometric domain of triangles belongs to mathematics and its calculations, while the geometric domain of circles belongs to physics and its measurements.
Esbar's circuit research is really physical research.
For the purpose of this research, a precise mechanical device was built, determined by experiment,
that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
From this result arose a conclusion which stated that every millimeter diameter D of a circle must have a special PI number, and the way was immediately opened to calculate the circumference of the circle according to its millimeter diameter.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
Hashem protects the children
And if the explanation of the seven rules of a line pair, which prohibit mathematics from dealing with circles, is not clear, here is another explanation.
The first rule in circuit research says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the first rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them. From these simple drawings it is revealed that the length of the arc is different in every circle. Several conclusions can be drawn from this fact.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length. The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for each millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of arcs, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of an arc according to the millimeter length of a string, is by drawing a string of a chosen length in a circle of a chosen size, and thus we will obtain an adaptation of the length of an arc to the length of a string. The length of the string and the length of the bow can be measured with a ruler, and this measurement will necessarily be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord", conclusion B applies to it.
Conclusion D: The only way to investigate the relationship between the millimeter length of the circle's diameter and the circumference of a circle is a practical way, which includes measuring with a ruler.
Avgad's conclusions leave the study of circles to practical people who perform measurements with a ruler on drawings of circles and their diameters, and they rule out the possibility of mathematical calculation.
This concept of a practical approach to the study of the circuits, was realized in a very precise measurement, which appears in the scope experiment.
A. Asbar
It's enough to be wise in Ramiza and to go astray in Kurmiza
A special answer to Yoda, who is sure that they will find a failure in the scope experiment
The seven rules of a pair of lines, which prohibit mathematics from dealing with circles.
A pair of lines is formed by a closed compass line and a ruler line blocked by it, and its ends touch the compass line.
First rule: the length of the compass line is always greater than the length of the ruler line.
Second rule: for any chosen length of a ruler line, , it is possible to fit infinite lengths of blocked ruler lines.
Third rule: among the infinite lengths of blocked bar lines, there is the longest bar line (diameter)
Fourth rule: A linear pair is a physical pair, and in order to express it quantitatively, it is necessary to measure its lengths with a ruler, and thus quantitative length numbers will be obtained.
Fifth rule: measuring the lengths of a pair of lines with a ruler is not really accurate, and an error of 0.5 mm, more or less, must be taken into account.
Rule Six: Dealing with a pair of lines does not belong to mathematics and calculations, rather it belongs to physics and measurements conducted on a drawing of a ruler line, which blocks a ruler line.
Seventh rule: mathematics must not deal with circles, and must be satisfied with right triangles that satisfy the Pythagorean theorem.
Since mathematics did not obey the seventh rule, and it tried to calculate the circumference of the circle according to its diameter, the result of this calculation must be wrong.
The correct calculation was discovered with the help of the volume experiment, and it appears in the Asbar formula
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
He who own imperfection invalidates
Yoda
Only one combination of letters can describe a phenomenon of the type of nerve.
The letters M JN and N.
to upset
A response to your article "A summary of the history of natural human language." (39 pages) - will be given later. I was positively impressed, the article is interesting, it analyzes the language as being made up of a number of word types A, B, C, when the words of type C are understood by everyone in their own special way. I have many questions, and I know that this problem is mainly encountered in science and in translation from language to language. The well-known saying "what did the poet mean by his words" takes on new power.
I have a lot of comments but I'll leave that after I delve into the article.
for miracles
I wrote in my response to Asbar that "pushing gravity" could be a very good explanation for gravitation, and I did not elaborate. You claim that is not the case. There are two things because of which the pushing gravity idea was rejected, the first is friction and the second (in your opinion) is the type of collision of the particles. plastic or elastic. I really don't want to get into that now. I tried to conduct an experiment at the Weizmann Institute and the experiment did not produce clear results. Apparently the 20 cm long pendulum I used should have been several meters long. Surely one of us is right.
Israel Shapira
I am sure that Asbar will find a failure in every experiment we conduct and even if he conducts it at the Technion therefore I am short of convincing. In your free time, try to access the article "A Brief History of Natural Human Language",
And read gently, patiently and softly. (Type C words)
So far
Shabbat Shalom
Sabdarmish Yehuda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdziW7YJHJo&t=156s
It is appropriate to end this discussion, with a proposal for a friendly Hebrew name, instead of the name Mathematik
as gifts instead of math
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/45317ede-eca8-48bc-8608-477e5a47c910.pdf
A. Asbar
The scope experiment is a simple but very accurate mechanical experiment.
In order for the result of such an experiment to be accepted in the world of science, a well-known and respected scientific institution needs to conduct it.
Such an experiment should invalidate what mathematicians have been teaching for the last 2000 years, that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles is (equal to) the ratio of their circumferences.
I am sure of the result that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences, but no one believes me, and the claim is that my experiment is not accurate.
The Technion will be trusted, and later we will change the study of the geometry of circles all over the world.
A. Asbar
The mystery of the wired pair
A pair of lines consists of a closed circular line (KES) drawn with a caliper, and a straight line blocked by it and drawn with a ruler.
First rule: the length of a line is always greater than the length of a straight line blocked by it.
Second rule: for any length of a chosen line, it is possible to fit an infinite number of lengths of a straight line blocked by it.
Third rule: among the infinite lengths, there is the longest straight line, blocked by it.
Fourth rule: A linear pair is a physical pair, and in order to express it quantitatively, it must be measured
its lengths with the help of a ruler, and thus we will get quantitative numbers.
Fifth rule: Any such measurement will end with two numbers close to each other (multiple digits) and not with a single number.
Rule Six: Dealing with a line pair does not belong to mathematics and calculations, but it belongs to physics and measurements.
And now we will move to the normal language that talks about a bow and its string, and we will draw 4 conclusions.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length. The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for each millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of arcs, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of an arc according to the millimeter length of a string, is by drawing a string of a chosen length in a circle of a chosen size, and thus we will obtain an adaptation of the length of an arc to the length of a string. The length of the string and the length of the bow can be measured with a ruler, and this measurement will necessarily be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord", conclusion B applies to it.
Conclusion D: The only way to investigate the relationship between the millimeter length of the circle's diameter and the circumference of a circle is a practical way, which includes measuring with a ruler.
Avgad's conclusions leave the study of circles to practical people who perform measurements with a ruler on drawings of circles and their diameters, and they rule out the possibility of mathematical calculation.
When it is clear that mathematics has nothing to do with circles and their diameter, one must understand that the only way to deal with circles and their diameter is a physical way of precise measurement, and this appears in the circumference experiment.
The circumference experiment established that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
Mathematics (which has nothing to do with circles) stated "just so for reasons of convenience"
that the ratio of the diameters (yes equal to the ratio of the circumferences)
The time has come for mathematicians to repeat the scope experiment, and retract their erroneous determination.
A. Asbar
Get upset, you continue to demand that the scientific establishment and especially the Technion conduct the scope experiment, for the sake of drama.
Don't you think that your demand will be much more acceptable in their eyes if you conduct the experiment properly first, i.e. with a large number of rounds? Do you think they've even heard of your existence and changing pie?
And in general, if you so believe that you are right and the scientific establishment is wrong, why do you continue to demand recognition from them? Why don't they come to you for advice and help?
It doesn't appear anywhere how you actually got to 12c. Why not 11 or 13.7? Maybe to impress yourself and others?
So instead of referring, explain here how you arrived at this hypothesis, or admit that these are just worthless combinations of letters.
On page 4 appears hypothesis 12C
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
What is the combination of the letters 12 times the speed of light, and how do you get to it.
To Israel
Fundamental concepts in physics must be quantitative, and mass, matter, and force are not quantitative.
The quantitative concepts in reality are length, area, volume, time and energy.
A person has a natural knowledge of quantity, and he knows that the amount of length appearing in a broomstick is greater than the amount of length appearing in a pencil.
Man does not know how to distinguish the amount of material of a watermelon, but he does know how to distinguish the amount of volume of a watermelon. Man also does not know how to distinguish the amount of mass of a watermelon.
On the other hand, he does know how to distinguish the amount of passive energy of a watermelon.
Do you prefer the combination of letters "power" to the combination of letters "passive energy"?
A. Asbar
To Yehuda who always presents a respectful discourse
Know that we are all trapped in the trap of human language. .
You are sure that the words you use succeed in conveying your inner knowledge to the reader, and that is not at all certain.
The reader translates the letter combinations of the words into news, and it is not at all certain that this translation is successful.
Therefore do not be surprised that you are not understood, and I am not surprised that they do not understand me either.
What else ? The language of actions is much more understandable than the language of words, and the scope experiment represents the language of actions.
I have attached an article about the secret of human language
A. Asbar
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/2/9422152e-be12-499e-a9ca-7e3b0261dec0.pdf
The mystery of the wired pair
A pair of lines consists of a closed circular line (KES) drawn with a caliper, and a straight line blocked by it and drawn with a ruler.
First rule: the length of a line is always greater than the length of a straight line blocked by it.
Second rule: for any length of a chosen line, it is possible to fit an infinite number of lengths of a straight line blocked by it.
Third rule: among the infinite lengths, there is the longest straight line, blocked by it.
Fourth rule: A linear couple is a physical couple, and in order to express it quantitatively, its lengths must be measured with a ruler, and thus we will get quantitative numbers.
Fifth rule: Any such measurement will end with two numbers close to each other (multiple digits) and not with a single number.
Rule Six: Dealing with a line pair does not belong to mathematics and calculations, but it belongs to physics and measurements.
And now we will move to the normal language that talks about a bow and its string, and we will draw 4 conclusions.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length. The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for each millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of arcs, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of an arc according to the millimeter length of a string, is by drawing a string of a chosen length in a circle of a chosen size, and thus we will obtain an adaptation of the length of an arc to the length of a string. The length of the string and the length of the bow can be measured with a ruler, and this measurement will necessarily be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord", conclusion B applies to it.
Conclusion D: The only way to investigate the relationship between the millimeter length of the circle's diameter and the circumference of a circle is a practical way, which includes measuring with a ruler.
Avgad's conclusions leave the study of circles to practical people who perform measurements with a ruler on drawings of circles and their diameters, and they rule out the possibility of mathematical calculation.
When it is clear that mathematics has nothing to do with circles and their diameter, one must understand that the only way to deal with circles and their diameter is a physical way of precise measurement, and this appears in the circumference experiment.
The circumference experiment established that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
Mathematics (which has nothing to do with circles) stated "just so for reasons of convenience"
that the ratio of the diameters (yes equal to the ratio of the circumferences)
The time has come for mathematicians to repeat the scope experiment, and retract their erroneous determination.
A. Asbar
Yoda, maybe you will convince Asbar to conduct his scope experiment with more rounds? And maybe you can explain how he got to 12c? Or why does an apple weigh more on the earth than the moon if the apple's weight comes from its energy?
And maybe you will explain why this arrogant idiot calls scientific concepts meaningless combinations of letters?
Yehuda
Your theory doesn't work because elastic collisions can't create something like gravity.
This has been explained to you countless times.
Like the idiot (he really is an idiot) - you too need to understand that you are wrong.
Please respond gently….
aetzbar
Pi is calculated from simple geometry.
A grown man who does not understand simple geometry is an idiot.
"Your speech of verbal freedom is saturated with slime"
It's rubbish to say about fundamental concepts in physics such as mass, matter and force that are meaningless combinations of letters.
"A call to the scientist editor Mr. Avi Blizovsky.
Please bring the contents of this discussion to the attention of physicists and mathematicians at the Technion.'
If you had read the comments other than your own, you would perhaps have known that my father has long since ignored commenters' comments on the site and that he has no connection to physicists and mathematicians at the Technion.
Dear Asbar
One of the most important things in science is to dare and think outside the box, in this case you should expect that your opinions will be attacked with fury by the conventional knowledge that exists in science. I too, like you, have unacceptable opinions in science, and am often attacked for my opinions, and many times I end my responses with the sentence:
"Please respond gently"
Don't be in any doubt dear Nesbar, I do not fully agree with a world of infinite sizes of phi as you dare to predict, but, to your credit, I say that you dare, that you think outside the box, and you should expect a frontal attack from conventional science. And by the way I was sad, the information about a single Pi is only true in a flat universe in Euclidean geometry. In other geometry such as on a sphere, each diameter of a circle drawn on the sphere has its pi. What you dare to say that even in a Euclidean flat universe, every diameter of a circle has its phi.
But... those who think outside the box should have the ability to accept the possibility that they are wrong in the abnormal opinions they express.
For example, I also have ideas outside the box such as, the speed of light in a vacuum is not constant, there is no dark matter, and gravitational pushing can be a very good explanation for gravity and more, but if someone brings me proof that disproves one of my ideas I will check and I will not be ashamed to repeat myself.
Dear Asbar, check again and hopefully you will come to a conclusion. All the best!
Please respond gently. Thanks.
Sabdarmish Yehuda
"The Scope Experiment Discovered a Mathematical Truth"
So why not edit it properly with a high number of rounds? drama?
And if you don't take yourself seriously, why do you expect anyone else to take you seriously?
Maybe because you were and remain a whiny and drooling baby?
What about 12c?
From your words of verbal freedom saturated with slime, it is only appropriate to answer the matter of "mathematical truth"
The scope experiment discovered a mathematical truth, which mathematics cannot discover on its own.
The experiment revealed that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
This is a mathematical truth (number of ratio between diameters (not equal) to number of ratio between circumferences) and mathematics is unable to discover it
A. Asbar
A shout out to the scientist editor Mr. Avi Blizovsky.
Please bring the content of this discussion to the attention of physicists and mathematicians at the Technion.
They have the opportunity to conduct an experiment that will go down in the history of science, and will reveal to the world the existence of a new geometry, which will join Euclidean geometry.
Iden also has an opportunity here to publish news that is of international scope.
Successfully
A. Asbar
I was sad for you
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%A4%D7%A7%D7%98_%D7%93%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%92-%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%92%D7%A8
Could you tell us what that "exact mechanical experiment discovered a mathematical truth, which mathematics cannot discover at all"?
After all, you don't mean the wretched and negligent large-scale experiment that the idiot came up with emphatically refuses to conduct it properly, and this for purely scientific reasons, drama..
And maybe explain to us a piece of imbecile how you got to 12c?
I understand your angry response which lacks basic courtesy.
Many mathematicians react like you, because for the first time in history, a precise mechanical experiment has discovered a mathematical truth, which mathematics is not able to discover at all.
do you catch A mechanical experiment discovered a mathematical truth, which mathematics alone is unable to discover.
Do you understand what a scientific revolution is here?
Every scientific revolution has its time, I am aware of that and I wait patiently.
The experiment is the final arbiter in science, and it always will be.
A. Asbar
aetzbar
Your claim is justified - it stems from your lack of education, and not a mistake by people who are much smarter than you.
Instead of asking and trying to understand what the mathematicians are saying, you come up with a horribly stupid idea - Israel will be happy to explain to you what your type of stupidity is called.
This is a well-known psychological phenomenon, which I highly recommend you read about.
What I don't understand is - who ties your shoelaces?
And I add an apology to all the mathematicians who believe in the equation -
The ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (equal to ) to the ratio of their circumferences.
The scope experiment attached to this revealed
that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
The experiment is the final arbiter in science.
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
A. Asbar
The failure of mathematics in the study of circuits
The first rule in circuit research says:
It is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
To prove the first rule, we will draw several circles, and add a 25 mm long string to all of them.
From these simple drawings it is revealed that the length of the arc is different in every circle. Several conclusions can be drawn from this fact.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 25 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length.
The shortest arc (with a length of 25 mm plus a drop) will appear in a circle with a diameter of, for example, 1000 mm, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 25 mm.
Conclusion B:
Since for each millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of arcs, the only way to obtain the millimeter length of an arc according to the millimeter length of a string, is by drawing a string of a chosen length in a circle of a chosen size, and thus we will obtain an adaptation of the length of an arc to the length of a string.
The length of the string and the length of the bow can be measured with a ruler, and this measurement will necessarily be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord", conclusion B applies to it.
Conclusion D: The only way to investigate the relationship between the millimeter length of the circle's diameter and the circumference of a circle is a practical way, which includes measuring with a ruler.
Avgad's conclusions leave the study of circles to practical people who perform measurements with a ruler on drawings of circles and their diameters, and they rule out the possibility of mathematical calculation.
The ancient mathematicians accepted Avgad's conclusions, and they never tried to calculate the millimeter length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
And what did they try?
They are an experiment to calculate the length of the perimeter of a multi-sided elaborate polygon (MRC), according to the length of the diameter of a circle, blocked by the MRC.
The result of this calculation is known and published.
The perimeter of the MRC that blocks a circle is greater than the diameter of the circle blocked by the MRC - 3.14 times and a little.
And since this calculation did not touch millimeter lengths, the result of the calculation became general.
The circumference of each block blocking a circle is larger than the diameter of the circle blocked by the block - 3.14 times and a little.
And now almost 2000 years have passed, and a famous mathematician came up with a strange and interesting idea.
If we decrease the length of the sides of a circle more and more to zero mm, the circle will become a circle, and then we say - that the circumference of each circle - is greater than its diameter - 3.14 times and a little.
This idea fascinated the mathematicians and they accepted it, even though Avgad's conclusions leave the study of the circuits to practical people who perform measurements, and they rule out the possibility of mathematical calculation.
Esbar did not accept the idea of the famous mathematician, and he added to Avgad's conclusions an innovative and precise measurement. Instead of the inaccurate measurement with a ruler.
This measurement appears in a precise mechanical experiment, known as the scope experiment.
In this experiment, precise steel cylinders representing circles were used, and the experiment determined the existence of an anti-equation.
The ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
The inequality is tiny, but it exists without a shadow of a doubt.
From this equation it follows that for each millimeter length D of a circle diameter,
There is a corresponding millimeter length C of the circumference of a circle,
Therefore, each size of a circle has a special number, which means how many times the circumference is greater than the diameter.
These data led to the discovery of a practical formula, which enables a new calculation unknown to science,
And it is the calculation of the millimeter length of the circumference of a circle according to the millimeter length of its diameter.
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
The apology of a mathematician..
Hardy is turning over in his grave.
I blame the math - original article by A. Asbar
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/601a3bca-d6d2-41c6-9816-6db6bc5ab768.pdf
Miracles
Degnert truly believes that the scientific community - you and I are miracles, the scientific community - are deathly afraid that an experiment of its magnitude will shatter our unshakable beliefs in a permanent pie and destroy our world upon us..
"Definitely you are an intern again"
Very very again. A known trick of all converts, flattery.
I do have an idea for resolving the contradiction that may exist between relativity and quanta, but as long as I don't have a "slam dunk" experiment that proves it unequivocally, I won't publish it and I certainly won't market my "theory" at every opportunity like you do, scientist Damicolo.
Israel
Do you think he's dumber or dumber? I'm having a hard time deciding...
aetzbar
You are the proof of active stupidity.
And one more thing, he was upset.
You write:
And you are definitely a freelancer again.
I do have an idea that I believe is much more scientifically and logically based than your delusions (12 the speed of light..).
But I don't market it and I don't declare it the correct theory until I have an unequivocal successful experiment, and even if I do I will put it first to peer review before I publish it.
What are the roots of your theory?
I explained to you that you only have one role in the world: to be a baker's boy for training as a Sah.
As long as you refuse to conduct the scoping experiment properly, you have no scientific pretensions.
By the way, I believe that you edited it a long time ago and are aware of your folly, you simply don't have the integrity to admit it, and because you don't have a life then the only interest you find is in those pointless discussions.
Israel will be surprised, but I really understand you.
I know you truly believe that Pai is constant in all circles, and even you are convinced that you have proven it.
I know you don't believe there is passive time in the world,
And without a shadow of a doubt I believe you, that you think the neural theory is complete nonsense without a shadow of a doubt.
And even I believe you, that you believe that Asbar is stupid, arrogant, and arrogant,
All your beliefs do not bother me at all, and indirectly they help me.
With the help of people like you, the neural theory is published and comes to the knowledge of many people, and I thank you for that.
But don't think you're alone, over the years there were others like you, and I thank them too.
I also know that "distributors of new scientific theories" (short for interns) will appear and you are definitely an intern again.
Nissim is only a beginning intern, but he will improve.
A person cannot escape from himself, and an overtime employee remains an overtime employee forever.
With the help of many interns, the neural theory took root in Israel and the world, and the time will come when the roots will grow flowers.
A. Asbar
Miracles
I've long since proved to my dismay that all circles have the same pie. I also tried in vain to ask him to conduct his scope experiment with more rounds. There is no point in talking to Asbar in scientific terms because there is no connection between Asbar and science. He is a human being who tries to derive self-importance from the rambling model he built and the ridiculous experiment he conducted, and perhaps to impress laymen.
But it is possible to derive an annoying benefit in another way - to practice on it with a lawnmower.
After all, he always has to say the last word, what nonsense in the style of the experiment he is the final arbiter. So we can go down on him, abuse him, humiliate him, and in this way sharpen our debating skills on a wretched and easy target without feeling pangs of conscience that we are abusing the helpless.
and why? Because despite all the apparent gentlemen of Esbar, a person who writes that all the concepts of physics such as matter, mass, and energy, are meaningless words and that we should forget Newton and listen only to him who does not have a single acceptance to his credit - is in my opinion one of the easiest and most arrogant scoundrels that exists in the world, and deserves For every verbal slap in the face he justly takes.
The mathematics in the circle trap
Mathematics is unable to calculate the circumference of a circle based on a millimeter length of the diameter of the circle, because it is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on a millimeter length of its string.
To present the trap we will draw several circles, and add a 34 mm long string to all of them.
It will immediately become clear to us that in each circle in the drawing, the length of the arc is different.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 34 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length. The shortest arc (which is 34 mm long plus a drop) will appear in a circle with an infinite diameter and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 34 mm.
and hence to further conclusions.
Conclusion B: Since for every millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of bows, it is not possible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string. The only option is by drawing a string in a selected circle, after which the length of the arc shown in the drawing must be measured with a ruler - and this measurement will inevitably be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord" then it is not possible to calculate the length of the arc of the diameter, according to the millimeter length of the diameter.
Conclusion D: Since the length of the arc of a diameter is half of the circumference of the circle, then it is not possible to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
The ancient mathematicians knew this, and they never tried to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
And what did they try?
They are an experiment to calculate the length of the perimeter of a multi-sided elaborate polygon, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of a circle, blocked by the polygon.
The result of this calculation is known and published.
The perimeter of the MRC that blocks a circle is greater than the diameter of the circle blocked by the MRC - 3.14 times and a little.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
aetzbar
Your level of understanding of elementary school geometry is embarrassing. Your attitude is poor and your integrity is beyond criticism.
Yehuda described a simple experiment to you that shows how stupid you are - and you don't even understand what he's talking about...
I thought the scope experiment was already successful, you even made a video about it..
Back to the barn, sad.
When you start with the cursing, the scorn, the mockery, and the tasteless rant,
A clear sign is that in the scientific debate you lost this time as well.
You operate your keyboard like a rabbit
Who trembles lest he succeeds, the scope experiment.
Know that the experiment is the final arbiter in science.
so it will always be,
A. Asbar
Perfect fool..
The experiment is the final arbiter in science
It will always be like that
A. Asbar
Of course you haven't heard, you're so busy reinventing the wheel that you don't have time for anything unrelated to your bloated ego.
And you don't have the ability to understand either.
In short - what can be done with all your regret? Is it possible to build something with it, measure something, discover something?
You are all hot air, arrogance, stupidity, and one stupid and careless experiment.
12c Elek.. why not 11, why not 14.39?
You just stuck some number to impress yourself and your readers..
both alike.
I have not heard that Einstein completely rejected the Newtonian concept of gravity.
One thing is for sure
The two fundamental concepts in Newton's universe are quantum matter and quantum gravity
And on the other hand
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy
(Is Einstein's matter quantitative? And does it have gravity?)
And the transformation is in the neural universe
The two fundamental concepts in the neural universe are passive time and energy.
Quantum matter does not exist, and its gravity does not exist
What is called matter is a combination of amounts of passive time and energy, and the interpretation of such a combination is a physical form.
The elements, gold, carbon, helium, and more....are physical forms
Passive time is a completely new physical concept, absolute cold and absolute rest, and is the medium that transmits the sun.
A. Asbar
Yes he was upset, Einstein already talked about it 120 years ago. All of general relativity is built on the assumption that no force acts on a body in free fall.
A person jumping from a trampoline into the pool, does not feel "something pulling him down in an accelerated motion" therefore he rejects the Newtonian explanation of a force of gravity that drops bodies to the ground in an accelerated motion.
At the same time he adopts the neural explanation, that the accelerated movement comes to fulfill a law of nature, which is the law of conservation of energy.
Physical reality is miraculous, and one must choose between miraculous explanations.
A. Asbar
Really upset, indeed.
And do you have even one experiment that confirms your claims? Because Newton Maxwell and Einstein have thousands of experiments that confirm their theories.
The experiment is the final arbiter in science.
It will always be like that
A. Asbar
So be patient, conduct the immortal weighing scale experiment that will immediately put you in the pantheon of physics greats.
If the experiment is successful, and the scales show a different weight to the cubes than the spring, you will be honored and valued. Your name will be in the heads of the great physicists above Newton Maxwell and Einstein. Everyone will black out. You will be able to travel around the world and instill in cheering crowds the wondrous neural universe, alongside the changing pie.
But if the experiment is not successful, and the scales remain balanced... one must immediately return to the previous profession of selling pickles.
According to neurophysics, spring scales and the balance beam are two completely different measuring devices.
According to conventional physics, both measure (mass, weight, force, .... choose the meaningless word yourself)
According to neurophysics, a spring measures passive energy, and the balance beam measures "action" which is the combination of the amount of energy and the time it takes to produce it. And don't ask me what it is? everything at its time.
There is a connection between neural physics and neural geometry,
In neural geometry there are two measuring instruments, the ruler and the protractor,
Neurophysics has the spring and the balance beam.
And do not ask any more questions, at any time and at any time for any object.
The scope experiment is a "critical experiment" that allows a transition between theories.
The metal cube experiment is also a critical experiment that allows a transition between theories.
A. Asbar
If the spring scales say that the weight of the two cubes is equal, then that is also what the scales will say.
Why do you have some filmed experiment that shows something different, or is it, as always, all vanity and ill-will?
I didn't say the same volume, I said equal passive energy
The gold cube and the clay cube have the same passive energy.
In conventional physics they will say - that spring balances "said" that their weight is equal.
In conventional physics they will also say that if we place the cubes on the scales, they will remain in a balanced state.
According to neural physics, no balance will appear, and the gold cube will go down.
Does conventional physics know how to explain such a phenomenon?
Miracles
Think of a nerve as a passive training target, drop a 5 kilo hammer on it.
Or in your case, Cornes..
Israel
I hope you enjoy arguing with the moron … 🙂
I am quite tired of his lies.
Passive energy elk..
Explain why if you put cubes of the same volume on a scale, one gold and the other aluminum, then why the gold cube will not fall according to Newtonian physics.
What would conventional physics say about a cube of gold and a cube of iron, having equal passive energy?
Shut up you brat, we could learn something from a pathetic slob like you if you start answering questions instead of running away every time you are put in the wrong.
"The expectation is that the gold cube will go down, and the clay cube will go up.
Can conventional physics explain such an experiment?'
Try to explain with your scrambled brain physics why conventional physics does not explain such an experiment.
You will learn
You will learn this too
The mathematics in the circle trap
Mathematics is unable to calculate the circumference of a circle based on a millimeter length of the diameter of the circle, because it is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on a millimeter length of its string.
To present the trap we will draw several circles, and add a 34 mm long string to all of them.
It will immediately become clear to us that in each circle in the drawing, the length of the arc is different.
Conclusion A:
An infinite number of bows can be fitted to a string that is 34 mm long, and each bow will have a different millimeter length.
The shortest arc (which is 34 mm long plus a drop) will appear in a circle with an infinite diameter and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 34 mm.
and hence to further conclusions.
Conclusion B: Since for every millimeter length of a string, it is possible to fit an infinite number of bows, it is not possible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
The only option is by drawing a string in a selected circle, after which the length of the arc shown in the drawing must be measured with a ruler - and this measurement will necessarily be inaccurate.
Conclusion C: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord" then it is not possible to calculate the length of the arc of the diameter, according to the millimeter length of the diameter.
Conclusion D: Since the length of the arc of a diameter is half of the circumference of the circle, then it is not possible to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
The ancient mathematicians knew this, and they never tried to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
And what did they try?
They are an experiment to calculate the length of the perimeter of a multi-sided elaborate polygon, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of a circle, blocked by the polygon.
The result of this calculation is known and published.
The perimeter of the MRC that blocks a circle is greater than the diameter of the circle blocked by the MRC - 3.14 times and a little.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In this formula, the diameter of the circle D must be written in millimeters, when D is greater than 0.001 mm, and the formula will provide the length of the circumference C in millimeters.
This is how the Asbar formula calculates C based on D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
Learn, it's not written in Wikipedia.
A. Asbar
Israel does not speak Chinese.
The last part of the sentence is missing "that they have equal passive energy"
"In neurophysics, an experiment unknown to science should be conducted, much more accurate than the scope experiment."
Mmm.. Is there an explicit message here that the scope experiment is not accurate?
"With the help of a spring, you can get a gold cube, and a hamran cube"
I sent this sentence to a forensic linguistics lab. They have no idea what the sentence says.
What happened to your hebrew, sabreino?
The expectation is that the gold cube will go down, and the clay cube will go up.
Can conventional physics explain such an experiment?
Yes, easily. In Newtonian physics, gold is much heavier than clay, so the side of the scales with the gold will go down.
And in neurophysics?
Ask the Technion to conduct the experiment for you, immediately after the scope experiment.
And don't put Newton's and Einstein's poor theories in the same line with the Asbar model. It demoralizes you, your nerves.
aetzbar
You assume the result of your experiment - and demand that the real physics (as opposed to yours - the false one) explain the "result".
And I ask myself - how stupid can you be...
I look forward to your reply in your next reply 🙂
In neurophysics, an experiment unknown to science is supposed to be conducted, much more accurate than the scope experiment.
With the help of a spring, a gold cube and a clay cube must be obtained, which have equal passive energy.
Later in the experiment, the cubes must be placed on the scales.
The expectation is that the gold cube will go down, and the clay cube will go up.
Can conventional physics explain such an experiment?
A. Asbar
Yes, but according to the Newtonian universe it is possible to calculate the appearance of comets, escape velocity, movements of satellites..
According to the Einsteinian universe, it is possible to calculate stellar deviations, amounts of energy in matter, to build GPS systems.
Can you point to one and only one calculation that can be performed according to the glorious neural universe?
What's more, you signed as nervous, not nervous. A Freudian quill? Are the nerves taking over us because of the inability to present even one advantage to the sublime neural universe?
Yehuda, you delved into the Asbar model, were you able to draw any insight from his pile of nonsense?
The neural universe appears in the attached article, they will, they will accept....they will not, they will not accept
In front of him stand the Newtonian universe, and Einstein's universe
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
Best wishes for a successful choice, including the choice between a fixed pie and a variable pie.
A. Asbar
But get upset! Newton gives an exact answer in centimeters!
And besides, if you say:
"An apple placed on a spring presents an amount of energy in the spring, and this is the passive energy of the apple"
So why would the passive energy of the apple change on the moon? And how much?
Doesn't physics deal with exact quantities? And didn't you promise an exact answer when you wrote:
"If you want a complete and detailed answer"
So where is the detail? Why an easy answer instead of a detailed answer that explains why the passive energy of the apple changes on the moon and by how much?
Wrong..
The light answer I gave is absolutely enough. More details appear in the article.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Asbar
"If you want a complete and detailed answer"
Definitely! I want a full and detailed answer.
How much will the spring shrink?
A full and detailed answer in centimeters please.
If you want a complete and detailed answer, read part of the attached article from pages 16 to 26
The easy answer means that the passive energy of the apple changes according to the spring's location from the center of the earth.
The same description applies experimentally to the surface of the moon, with a smaller passive energy.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
A. Nervous
OK, let's take what you said:
"An apple placed on a spring displays an amount of energy in the spring, and this is the passive energy of the apple."
Now we will take the same apple and the same spring and make the same measurement, but instead of on the shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel - on the shore of the Sea of Serenity in the moon.
In Israel the spring shrunk by 2 cm.
Can you tell how much the spring will shrink in the moon? And if you can't give an exact answer, will it shrink even in the moon by 2 cm?
"The universe moves in eternal perpetual motion in infinite space, in a straight line and in a certain direction.
The speed of this motion of persistence, 12 times the speed of light.
This movement of perseverance is absolute, and there is no way to measure it."
How did you get to 12C how did you get to that?
Please refer me to your writings, explain it here, please.
Judah/Israel
If he was a horse……
Avoid the Newtonian concepts of mass, weight, force, and concentrate only on a clear scientific concept that is understood and measured.
An apple placed on a spring displays an amount of energy in the spring, and this is the passive energy of the apple.
When you step on a spring on the ground, the spring will display your passive energy.
A. Asbar
Let's take what you wrote:
"The weight of the apple is the amount of energy in the compressed spring"
I have a green apple, I placed it on a spring on the shore of the Kinneret Sea, and I saw that the spring shrunk by 2 cm.
What is the amount of energy in the spring, and what is the relationship between it and the weight of the apple?
The answer to your question appears in the article that appears in this discussion "A wonderful universe built from energy and passive time"
Just as there are two types of time, active and passive, so there are two types of energy.
The active type is the known and learned, changes impressions, and fulfills the law of conservation.
The passive type is the one that appears in the contracting spring, and this type does not participate in the conservation law.
All the Newtonian concepts, mass, weight, force are literary names derived from the concept of passive energy.
A. Asbar
Reporter:
The weight of the apple also comes from the apple itself, when you notice that an apple placed on a spring shrinks it a little. The weight of the apple is the amount of energy in the spring that contracted.
Isn't it meant that if the spring contracted by say 2 cm, it caused the spring to store an amount of energy in it that corresponds to the weight of the apple?
In Newtonian physics, by the way, the amount of energy in the contraction of a spring is equal to kx^2 divided by 2, where k is the spring constant and x is the distance the spring contracted. It is now possible to take the compressed spring to another place and releasing it will yield exactly the amount of energy in the formula, for example to push a body weighing 1 kg in a straight line and give it a speed of 10 m/s.
So are you claiming that if we take the same spring that has shrunk by 2 cm due to the weight of the apple to another place, we can extract from it an amount of energy equal to the weight of the apple?
To Israel
The answer to question 1 is yes
The answer to question 3 is yes.
Question 2 is clearly not formulated, try to repeat it
A. Asbar
to Judah,
Cut a transparent paper on which a ruler line is drawn, and after that cut out parts of the drawing.
After that place a part on a part on a part, and you will notice that the parts of the line always merge into each other, becoming a single line.
A ruler line has a uniform shape in all its parts, and this can be easily illustrated.
Also, any ruler line you choose - long or short, is uniform in shape in all its parts, and this can be easily illustrated by experimenting with transparent paper cuttings
A ruler line in a puppy, which is approximately 10 cm long, is uniform in shape in all its parts.
A closed ruler line, approximately 20 cm long, is uniform in shape in all its parts.
but
The uniform shape of a closed compass line that is 10 cm long is different from the uniform shape of a closed compass line that is 20 cm long
And so on, every length of a closed dial has a uniform shape that is only its own.
A closed compass line is a precise geometric name - instead of the literary name a circle. (The circle of life, the circle of poverty, circles of justice...and more)
Each closed dial line has its own special uniform shape, and the mathematical expression for the shape is a ratio number, between the millimeter length of the dial line, and the millimeter length of the straight diameter.
Pi is a shape number, and each circle should have its own special shape number.
A. Asbar
Dear Asbar
I looked at your experiment through a magnifying glass, does the phi change?, doesn't it seem to you that a paradox has been created here?
I'm just asking, don't get angry.
Shabbat Shalom Yehuda
Why finally, I already wrote it 3 times..
Let's see if you can stay on topic and give simple answers to simple questions:
1. Are you claiming that it is the energy in the apple that causes the spring to contract?
2. Do you claim that the energy of the spring is the same as the energy of the apple as you wrote:
The weight of the apple also comes from the apple itself, when you notice that an apple placed on a spring shrinks it a little. The weight of the apple is the amount of energy in the spring that contracted.
Who shrinks the spring? The apple compresses the spring, and not some mysterious force.
3. Do you claim there is no gravity?
Finally words of taste, although not accurate.
When an apple is placed on a spring, and it contracts, the passive energy of the apple is expressed, and it does not participate in the law of conservation of energy. The passive energy of the apple derives from the apple, and this innovation is not found in Newton's view at all. Passive time is also a complete innovation, which is not found in Newton's and Einstein's view.
Matter is not a quantitative concept, and is in the nature of a physical form, resulting from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy.
This concept of the material, rejects the particle concept accepted today.
The changing pie idea is also a complete innovation.
The scope experiment is also a complete innovation, creating a revolution in geometry and physics.
I have already described that there is a connection between neural geometry and neural physics,
What more ? Perhaps the disqualification of mathematics activity in the geometric field of circles, from the time of Archimedes until today.
Renewal will never end, because renewal is the clear sign of reality.
A. Asbar
Asbar does not believe in learning, Asbar believes in natural knowledge.
Natural knowledge tells the Nervous that there is a different path for each circle, that a miraculous motion system of the stars moves forever in a straight line, at a speed of 12 times the speed of light, (not 11 or 13, exactly 12), that the universe is full of passive time and that the amount of energy in an apple is equal to the amount of energy in the spring it bends.
Anger has no problem with contradictions. When you ask Asbar why 12, what happens on the moon when the spring shrinks less and including annoying questions such as what can be done and what calculation can be made with all this regret, Asbar ignores and disappears. He is waiting for someone to conduct the exact scope experiment for him for the drama..
There is no one like Asbar who will listen to all the small-minded laymen, and no one will say anything to Asbar - he is the one who will tell everyone.
And of course no one like Nebar will waste unnecessary time studying nonsense like calculus or physics, he is the one who will spread the gospel of geometry and neural physics to the world.
As I wrote, mathematics does not have the ability to calculate the circumference of a circle based on its diameter, because mathematics does not have a formula for calculating the circumference of a circle based on its diameter.
Mathematics has a formula for calculating the perimeter of an elaborate polygon that blocks a circle, according to the diameter of the circle. This formula always produces the same digits.
The Asbar method literally calculates the circumference of a circle based on its diameter, so each circle has different digits.
Diameter 10 mm, girth 31.41592 mm in the normal method 31.41773 in the Esbar method
Diameter 1 mm, circumference 3.1415926 mm in the normal method 3.1421477 in the Esbar method
Diameter 0.1 mm, circumference 0.314159 mm in the normal method 0.3143332 in the Esbar method
Diameter 0.01 mm, girth 0.0314159 mm in the normal method 0.0314707 in the Esbar method
From these data of the Asbar method an idea is drawn
Pie of 10 mm diameter, 3.141773
Pie of 1 mm diameter, 3.1421477
Pie of 0.1 mm diameter 3.143332
Pie of 0.01 mm diameter 3.14707
Pi varies between a minimum value of 3.1416 and a maximum value of 3.164
The change rule - the smaller the diameter of the circle, the larger the pi value
The range of change of the diameters of the circles, between zero mm and infinity mm.
Miracles
There is a strike in Abarbanal, all the harmless madmen and sleepwalkers are being released to free up beds..
The mathematics in the circle trap
Mathematics is unable to calculate the circumference of a circle based on a millimeter length of the diameter of the circle, because it is impossible to calculate the length of a bow based on a millimeter length of its string.
To present the trap we will draw several circles, and add a 34 mm long string to all of them.
It will immediately become clear to us that in each circle in the drawing, the length of the arc is different.
Now it is possible to determine that an infinite number of bows can be fitted to this string, and each bow will have a different millimeter length.
The shortest arc (which is 34 mm long plus a drop) will appear in a circle with an infinite diameter, and the longest arc will appear in a circle with a diameter of 34 mm.
Now we can draw conclusions.
Conclusion A: It is not possible to calculate the length of a bow, based on the millimeter length of its string. The only option is by measuring the length of the arc with a simple ruler, and this measurement will inevitably be inaccurate.
Conclusion B: Since the diameter of the circle is also the "longest chord" then it is not possible to calculate the length of the arc of the diameter (which is half the circumference of the circle)
Conclusion C: It is not possible to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
The ancient mathematicians knew this, and they never tried to calculate the length of the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
And what did they try?
They are an experiment to calculate the length of the perimeter of a multi-sided elaborate polygon (MRC) according to the millimeter length of the diameter of a circle, blocked by the MRC.
The mathematicians in the last 2000 years improved and improved this calculation, and in the end they reached the result,
The perimeter of the MRC that blocks a circle is greater than the diameter of the circle blocked by the MRC - 3.14 times and a little.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In the Asbar formula, the circumference of the circle C and the diameter of the circle D are recorded in millimeters, where D is always greater than 0.001 mm.
Aber formula that calculates C according to D
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
The Asbar formula introduces a new geometry of circles that is unknown to science.
A. Asbar
Israel
Where did this idiot come from?
aetzbar
What is your level of education?
I am waiting impatiently, we are all waiting.
We have been waiting for years, and we will wait for many more years.
For the scope experiment, for the passive time experiment, for the wonder universe experiment...
Isn't it better to be hospitalized and be done with all this already?
Your text has become insulting and pointless
Confused, spiky and lacking the manners and manners of old.
So talk to yourself, curse and mock and hide like a rabbit
And wait patiently for the repetition, about the scope experiment..
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
A. Asbar
What are you a barbarian nerd? Obviously you need another figure, after all each string has a different arc..
Do the scoping experiment properly, after all, without it you have nothing, and with it you also have nothing.
You don't understand that the experiment is unnecessary, because every sane person understands that there is no way to calculate the length of an arc in a circle - according to the millimeter length of its string,
If you chose a 14mm string, you can match it to infinite lengths of bows.
The shortest will appear in a circle with an infinite diameter, and the longest will appear in a circle with a diameter of 14 mm.
From these data it is clear that the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle determines the millimeter length of the circumference of the circle, with the help of a special pie for each millimeter length of the diameter.
When the millimeter diameter varies between zero mm and infinite mm
A special pie varies between ……………….3.164 and 3.1416
So the experiment is unnecessary, and should be left only for the big drama and the huge surprise.
For 2000 years mathematicians believe that pi is constant in all circles, therefore the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (must be equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
And here comes Asbar with the circumference experiment that determined... the ratio of the diameters (not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
The inequality is tiny, but it exists without a shadow of a doubt.
I am waiting for the Technion to discover this tiny island of Shavin, and the scope experiment will be recognized.
So maybe organize a support group that will contact the Technion, and ask for a repeated scope experiment.
We've talked enough - it's time for action.
A. Asbar
Atzbariko the man of Oriata,
Maybe enough with the shame already?
now conduct the experiment,
Or respect yourself and go home.
π=(4/1)-(4/3)+(4/5)-(4/7)+(4/9)-(4/11)+(4/13)-(4/15) ⋯
I finally understood. Took some time.
To complete my previous response
https://youtu.be/u4Y_i5D7WFM
A. Asbar
Why is it not possible to calculate the circumference of the circle, according to the millimeter length of the diameter of the circle.
Because it is impossible to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string
Suppose we choose a string with a length of 34 mm.
Infinite arcs of other lengths can be adjusted to this string, according to the choice of which circles to draw this string. If we draw this string in a circle with a diameter of 2 meters, the length of its arc will be "a little bit" greater than 34 mm. (maybe 34.01 mm)
And if we draw this string in a circle with a diameter of 50 mm, then the arc length of this string will be a little more than 35 mm.
Conclusion A: There is no way to calculate the length of a bow, based on the millimeter length of its string. The only option is by measuring the length of the arc with a simple ruler, and this measurement will inevitably be inaccurate.
Conclusion B: Since the diameter of the circle is the "longest string" then there is no possibility to calculate the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter.
The ancient mathematicians knew this, and therefore they chose to deal with an elaborate polygon that blocks a circle, and then they calculated the perimeter of the polygon, according to the diameter of the circle blocked by it.
The circumference of a circle according to its millimeter diameter was never calculated, until the Asbar formula appeared.
In the Asbar formula, the circumference of the circle C and the diameter of the circle D are recorded in millimeters, where D
It is from 0.001 mm and more.
The calculation of C according to D is like this
C is equal to D times [3.1416 plus root of (0.0000003 divided by D)
A. Asbar
"The circumference of a circle by its diameter - never calculated"
Double the pie, be patient.
for miracles
You will be surprised to hear, but there is no way to calculate the length of a bow, based on the millimeter length of its string.
Let's say you chose a string with a length of 34 mm.
This string can be fitted with infinite arcs of other lengths, according to your choice in which circles to draw this string.
If you draw this string in a circle with a diameter of 2 meters, the length of its arc will be "a little bit" greater than 34 mm. (maybe 34.01 mm)
And if you draw this string in a circle with a diameter of 50 mm, then the length of its arc will be a little more than 35 mm.
From this description it follows that there is no way to calculate the length of a bow, according to the millimeter length of its string.
The only option is by measuring with a simple ruler, which will inevitably be inaccurate.
Since the diameter of the circle is the "longest string" then there is no way to calculate the circumference of the circle based on the millimeter length of its diameter.
The ancient mathematicians knew this, and therefore they chose to deal with an elaborate polygon that blocks a circle, and then they calculated the perimeter of the polygon, according to the diameter of the circle blocked by it.
The perimeter of a polygon that intercepts a circle has 3 options.
The perimeter of the polygon is greater than the perimeter of the circle.
The perimeter of the polygon is equal to the perimeter of the circle.
The perimeter of the polygon is smaller than the perimeter of the circle.
The circumference of a circle by its diameter has never been calculated.
A. Asbar
Only through actions can you escape the trap of words.
Repeated experiment = more than a billion words, of meaningless text.
Organize a support group that will contact the Technion with a request for a repeat experiment.
A. Asbar
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/2/9422152e-be12-499e-a9ca-7e3b0261dec0.pdf
Israel
aetzbar does not know how to calculate the circumference of a circle. I will be surprised if he knows how to multiply by 3....
How good you will sing a lovely song,
If you learn some Torah from him!
It will appear roughly like the 12c..
What will happen, you are asked some questions, you are not able to answer them?
Newton's model gave us the ability to predict star orbits and almost all existing technology. Maxwell's model of electromagnetic communication. Einstein's model of atomic energy. A model that illuminates all modern electronics and computing. Boltzmann model the thermodynamic drive.
What is the use of a neural model? What innovation is there in it? After all, every formula in it is from Kepler and other scientists..
Really, an inventor who conducted a questionable experiment that he wants others to conduct for him properly for the sake of drama..
Mistaking imaginations is not a sin.
But presenting yourself as an inventor and a persecuted thinker without a single receipt to support your unfounded claims, spewing out random numbers (12 the speed of light...) and meaningless concepts (passive time...) giving stupid examples (the amount of energy in an apple is equal to the amount of energy in a spring... what happens in space, The apple lacks energy?) It's no longer a sin - it's a crumb.
And that's what you are, pathetic.
An adult person who plays nonsense and tries to impress himself and others by using concepts he heard somewhere and tries to appropriate knowledge from others.
Get some kind of job, maybe in drawing or poetic writing..
Did you know Asbarel,
Are you Don Yitzhak Abarbanal?
This is really an artist, a champion in the profession.
How will you respond to a lovely song,
If you learn some Torah from him!
And in general Asbar, you and Abarbanal seem to me to be a winning combination, in every field.
There is a connection between the neural universe and neural geometry, and the ratio number is 1.007
The ratio between maximum pie and minimum pie is 1.007, and my hypothesis is that this ratio number will also appear in the universe
between two absolute speeds.
A. Asbar
Where did Abar go? Don't you have answers?
Could it be possible that your entire marvelous neural universe rests on the same logic as neural geometry? That the passive tense like it as a variable pie depends only on the level of ignorance of the limited ones you are trying to impress using apparently scientific terms? That you invented a new physics because you are not able to learn the existing one just like you invented a new geometry because you are not able to learn the calculus?
And you are talking about meaningless combinations of letters.. A charlatan like you pretends to be a teacher, lecturer and educator..
I did not see answers to the questions I presented in the article:
1. Why 12c?
2. There is no dissolution of potential energy.
3. If there is no gravity, then why on the moon the spring on which the apple rests will shrink much less than on the earth? The amount of energy in an apple is less on the moon?
There is nothing new in the article, and it is full of inaccuracies. Every first year physics student knows that the cycle time of a body in a tunnel moving in simple harmonic motion is the same as the orbital time of a satellite at 0 altitude above the earth. The assertion that a falling body has no effect on the movement of the fall is wrong, the movement is a weighting of the body's masses and so on, and if the body is heavy enough the fall is faster and the escape speed is higher. What about attraction and repulsion between electrically charged bodies? Here, too, are there no forces between the bodies?
Can you show one experiment or one measurement using the wondrous neural universe that cannot be performed using the physics and instruments of the 19th century?
All the answers appear in the attached article.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
"The weight of the apple is the amount of energy in the compressed spring."
So what about mass? After all, on the moon the spring shrinks much less..
Reuven lifting a watermelon to the first floor balcony, in tiring muscle action, invested a lot of energy.
The watermelon fell from the balcony in an accelerated motion, and the impact of hitting the ground contained the same amount of energy.
This is how the law of nature - the law of conservation of energy - is self-evident.
The law of conservation of energy explains the phenomenon of free fall, and there is no need for an explanation based on gravity.
If the Earth were to attract the watermelon, then the Earth would become a supplier of energy, and the law of conservation of energy would not hold.
A. Asbar
"If this force was the cause of the fall of the apple, the law of conservation of energy would not hold."
Why is the law of conservation of energy not fulfilled? Isn't there a transformation of potential energy into kinetic energy, as we learned in the XNUMXth grade?
What about 12c?
Yehuda who claims that there is almost no gravity between the galaxies
Go one step further, and declare that there is no gravitational force between stars, nor is there a gravitational force between an apple growing on a branch, and the earth.
The ripe apple falls in accelerated motion, because this is how the law of conservation of energy is fulfilled. The apple falls by itself, and no mysterious force emanates from the earth,
does not cause his fall. If this force were the cause of the apple falling, the law of conservation of energy would not hold. (The concept of energy did not exist in Newton's time)
There is no need to answer the question "how does the apple fall by itself" and it is enough to know
Because in this fall a natural law is fulfilled.
The weight of the apple also comes from the apple itself, when you notice that an apple placed on a spring shrinks it a little. The weight of the apple is the amount of energy in the spring that contracted.
Who shrinks the spring? The apple compresses the spring, and not some mysterious force.
With such a description the law of nature "the law of conservation of energy" holds and with a mysterious force the law of conservation of energy does not hold.
No wonder that the concept of energy already appeared in Einstein's view, but he also used the Newtonian concept of a quantum substance with a gravitational force.
In Asbar's view, the quantitative concepts are energy and passive time, and matter is already perceived as a physical form, resulting from the combination of amounts of passive time and energy.
In a short and concise summary it will say so.
The two fundamental concepts in Newton's universe are matter and force.
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy.
The two fundamental concepts in Asbar's universe are passive time and energy.
A. Asbar
why 12 Why not 11, 13 or 1347?
Natural knowledge?
to Israel, explicitly written in the article ....hypothesis 12C
Hypothesis C12
The universe moves in eternal perpetual motion in infinite space, in a straight line and in a certain direction.
The speed of this motion of persistence, 12 times the speed of light.
This movement of persistence is absolute, and there is no way to measure it.
"This marvelous motion system moves forever in a straight line, at a speed of 12 times the speed of light."
Can you see the calculation that leads to 12c?
To Judah
The universe is not mechanical, and you cannot understand it like you understand the structure of a washing machine.
The universe has no skeleton, but a washing machine has a skeleton.
All the movements you recognize in a washing machine are understood according to the resting skeleton, which is the body of the machine. The universe has no skeleton, yet you recognize relative motions in it.
From this follows the wonderful conclusion, that the real movements of the stars are absolute movements, understood only in relation to themselves.
Newton's universe is a mechanical universe. The moon is tied by an imaginary taut spring to the earth, and thus it circles it without escaping. The stretched spring is supposed to illustrate the idea of the gravitational force that exists between the stars.
But the universe is a wonder, and you can't understand it like you understand a washing machine. Everything that needs to be said about the structure of the universe appears in the file I attached.
The great innovation is in the passive time that fills the interstellar space.
The passive time is absolute rest and absolute cold, and does not interfere with the movements of the stars.
The passive time is the medium that transmits sunlight.
On the basis of wonder, I presented a universe with laws of motion, but it is not a simple mechanical universe, which can be understood like a washing machine.
There is no gravity, and there is no imaginary taut spring that binds the moon to the earth. The universe presents wonderful ideas that materialize in an incomprehensible way,
And only the final result is understandable to a person.
All the stars move, and Noah's star does not exist.
All the stars form a single wondrous movement system, moving forever in an infinite space full of passive time, which is completely at rest and completely cold.
This wonderful movement system moves forever in a straight line, at a speed of 12 times the speed of light.
If your universe is a mechanical universe, my universe is wondrous.
And you chose.
The two fundamental concepts of the Newtonian universe are matter and force
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy.
The two fundamental concepts in the neural universe are passive time and energy.
A. Asbar
to upset
Regarding the pull of the oranges and the stars, there is one more possibility for the pull that you missed, and that is that something external is pushing them, for example gravitational pushing in the oranges and the pressure difference in the stars of the galaxies. There is no obligation to look for "something Pilai". A Philanthropic explanation is not a scientific explanation according to Popper and let's leave it to the religious scholars!
good week
Yehuda
To Judah
You are looking for the dry, precise, mathematical technical description, ... it appears in the attached article.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
But there is no choice, there are explanations about the universe that are wonderful.
Does an orange fall by itself when you let go, or does a mysterious force emanating from the earth pull it down.
Are the stars attracted by a mysterious force, or do they move of their own accord?
Any explanation you give must be miraculous, but it is possible to avoid explanations altogether, and be content with describing the tangible measured facts. The attached file is full of these facts.
A. Asbar
to upset
I will try to understand your words that appear under the title: "Summary of physical creation" and I quote:
"In the beginning knowledge was created and it filled the infinite space" end quote.
Already in the first sentence you contradict yourself. When was the "infinite space" created? Did he already exist? So he was created first!
Why does this remind me of another creation story "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" end quote.?
I'm going on:
"Knowledge permeates everything, both in the stars and in living creatures, knowledge is miraculous, and man has natural knowledge."
I progress several lines and I reach the climax:
"The stars know how to move on their own, in a path of natural movement. A natural path of movement is not an open straight line, nor is it a closed circular line. A natural movement path is a spatial screw, with a diameter and an angle of advancement.
The movement of the stars is natural and eternal, and no external force is needed to move them." End quote.
Dear Asbar... I'm starting to break down. What you are saying is that the movement of the stars comes from "natural knowledge".
theirs" ??. We don't need gravity or forces?... The stars know? Is this the answer in your opinion?? Tell me Asbar, what is wrong with the idea of God Almighty as it is said in Isaiah XNUMX:XNUMX:
"Who measured the height of the waters and the sky in the zenith, and all in a third of the earth's dust, and weighed the level of the mountains and hills in the scales"
Understand, dear Asbar, to say your words that the stars know where to move, is just like saying that God with his little finger moves the stars with wisdom.
Dear Asbar, I am looking for another science, a science that has meaning for eating from the tree of knowledge, and for the science written down from generation to generation. I appreciate you, but I don't agree with you.
All good is sad.
In appreciation
Sabdarmish Yehuda
to upset
I will try to understand your words that appear under the title: "Summary of physical creation" and I quote:
"In the beginning knowledge was created and it filled the infinite space" end quote.
Already in the first sentence you contradict yourself. When was the "infinite space" created? Did he already exist? So he was created first!
Why does this remind me of another creation story "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" end quote.?
I'm going on:
"Knowledge permeates everything, both in the stars and in living creatures, knowledge is miraculous, and man has natural knowledge."
I progress several lines and I reach the climax:
"The stars know how to move on their own, in a path of natural movement. A natural path of movement is not an open straight line, nor is it a closed circular line. A natural movement path is a spatial screw, with a diameter and an angle of advancement.
The movement of the stars is natural and eternal, and no external force is needed to move them." End quote.
Dear Asbar... I'm starting to break down. What you are saying is that the movement of the stars comes from "natural knowledge".
theirs" ??. We don't need gravity or forces?... The stars know? Is this the answer in your opinion?? Tell me Asbar, what is wrong with the idea of God Almighty as it is said in Isaiah XNUMX:XNUMX:
"Who measured the height of the waters and the sky in the zenith, and all in a third of the earth's dust, and weighed the level of the mountains and hills in the scales"
Understand, dear Asbar, to say your words that "the stars know where to move", is just like saying that God with his little finger moves the stars with wisdom.
Dear Asbar, I am looking for another science, a science that has meaning for eating from the tree of knowledge, and for the science written down from generation to generation. I don't appreciate you, but I don't agree with you.
All good is sad.
In appreciation
Sabdarmish Yehuda
to upset
I will delve into your difficult words, and respond, maybe tomorrow.
To Israel
Esbar's words go beyond the scientific knowledge we know. Maybe a question
Nonsense as you think but I will delve into his words and draw conclusions.
Patience, and please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
To Yehuda, you asked about the passive time, which is a concept unknown to science
Summary of physical creation
In the beginning, knowledge was created, and it filled the infinite space.
The knowledge is permeated in everything, both in the stars, and in the living creatures..
Knowledge is miraculous, and man has natural knowledge.
The foundation of the magnificent Hall of Science is natural knowledge.
The foundation of human language is natural knowledge
The basis of the language of numbers is natural knowledge.
Physical creation is imbued with knowledge.
The stars know how to move by themselves, in the course of natural movement.
A natural movement path is not an open straight line, nor is it a closed circular line.
A natural movement path is a spatial screw, having a diameter and an angle of advancement.
The movement of the stars is natural and eternal,
And no external force is needed to move them.
The physical creation of the universe includes 5 continuous quantitative things.
These are - time, energy, length, area, and volume.
A continuous quantitative thing has no beginning and no end, whatever quantity we choose from the thing, there is always something greater than it and there is always something smaller than it.
Time has a passive and an active side.
Passive time exists right in physical reality, and is at absolute rest in infinite space.
Active time (which includes past, present and future) does not exist in physical reality, and it exists only in human consciousness.
Energy has many active appearances that fulfill the law of quantitative conservation - and a single passive appearance (weight) that does not participate in the law of conservation.
After the infinite space has been filled with knowledge, passive time, and energy, the void no longer exists.
Passive time is a continuous ethereal quantitative thing.
Passive time is absolute rest and absolute cold, which fills every place.
Passive time is the medium in which the light waves will move.
The universe will move through passive time and it does not interfere with its movement.
The energy fills every place where there is passive time.
Energy is also a continuous ethereal quantitative thing,
This is how physical creation began, and it still has no substance.
The appearance of the tangible substance
From combining amounts of passive time and energy, the material of the stars is created.
Physical creation includes two ethereal quantitative things and they are passive time and energy.
Passive time is a different thing from energy, but passive time is a quantitative thing, and energy is also a quantitative thing.
The material of the stars is not a quantitative thing, and is in the scope of a "physical form"
A physical form is created by adding quantities of "two other things"
Passive time is a quantitative thing, and energy is another quantitative thing.
There is a similarity between a physical shape and a geometric shape.
The shape of the circle is created by combining certain quantities of the length of a closed circular line, and within it a quantity of area.
(Length and area are two "other" quantitative things)
Length is a quantitative thing, and area is another quantitative thing.
The shape of the triangle is created by a certain combination of quantities, of the length of a closed line built from straight line segments, and within it a quantity of area.
(length and area are two "other" quantitative things)
The shape of a lump of dough is created by adding certain quantities of the volume of the dough, and its surface area. (Volume and surface area are two "different" quantitative things)
The kneading of the lump of dough only changes the amount of its surface area, but this kneading also changes the combination of the quantities of volume and surface area, and necessarily the shape of the lump of dough also changes.
In geometry, it is easy to determine that a geometric shape results from adding quantities of "two other things".
And so it will be in physics.
Gold is the name of a physical form, and gold is created by combining certain amounts of passive time and energy
(Passive time and energy are two "other" quantitative things)
Carbon is the name of a physical form, and it is created by combining certain amounts of passive time and energy
(Passive time and energy are two "other" quantitative things)
the natural human knowledge of quantity,
linking geometry and physics,
According to similarity between geometric shape and physical shape.
A geometric shape results from adding quantities of two other things.
And physical form results from combining quantities of two other things.
From adding quantities of closed length containing area, geometric shapes such as triangle, rectangle, circle,
And by combining amounts of passive time and energy, physical forms such as gold, carbon, copper arise
The conclusion
The accepted concept of the material is about to change.
In the Newtonian view, matter is considered a quantitative thing, but it is not.
Matter is in the nature of physical form,
And you can't talk about a lot of material or a little material.
The concept of quantity belongs only to 5 things that exist in the world,
And they are …….the length, area, volume, time and energy.
This natural knowledge of quantity led man to invent a language of quantities, whose words are numbers.
This language is supposed to represent geometric shapes and physical shapes accurately, with the help of numbers.
The accepted name for the language of quantities is math, and the appropriate Hebrew name is kamatan. (as a gift, as a gift, as a gift)
The neural cosmology rests on three pillars, which stand on a conceptual foundation of natural knowledge.
The geometric page, the physical page, and the mathematical page
The geometric page has geometric shapes,
The physical page has physical forms
And on the mathematical page there is a language capable of describing shapes with the help of numbers.
The geometric shapes and physical shapes exist in reality as a natural fact, but the language of quantities must be invented by man.
The language of quantities known as mathematics is a human invention, which came into the world thanks to the natural knowledge of man.
The impulse to invent a simple language of quantities arose from everyday needs, but the impulse to invent a precise language of quantities arose from the existence of physical and geometrical forms, which can be described according to
"Combining amounts of two other things
However
First and foremost, it is worth discussing the verbal human language, because until now we have used it, without knowing it.
Only after knowing the secret of verbal human language,
We will discuss the language of quantities.
Knowing the secret of the human verbal language, will allow the presentation of the universe, as a finite collection of stars, moving forever in an infinite space full of passive time and energy.
The two fundamental concepts in the Newtonian universe are matter and force
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy
The two fundamental concepts in the neural universe are passive time and energy
Poetic cosmology
The passive tense surrounds us,
And we move through it.
I asked him, and I didn't answer.
Wait some time
he said
Who are you ? I asked
I am the passive tense,
I belong to nature
I lead the light and color.
Where you ? I made it difficult
I fill the terrible space,
And it is now full of a river.
The energy is also with me, its power is beyond words,
And together, we create the material.
I know the material,
I touched him and he is right here.
You can't touch me
But inside me you are free to move.
Are you really time?
After all, the time I know always flies away.
I have no past - said the passive tense - nor a future.
I'm always here, I'm not a guest.
I am the real time, and the energy is always with me.
A. Asbar
How will he understand you, after all, all the combinations of letters in your answer are meaningless words.
It's not your problem, it's human language's problem.
It seems to you that the answer is an answer, but it is actually noise.
You must learn the secret of human language, and escape from the Tower of Babel.
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/2/9422152e-be12-499e-a9ca-7e3b0261dec0.pdf
Do you understand Yoda?
He has all the equipment and refuses to do the experiment because he expects someone at the academy to conduct it for his precious drama..
And a donkey like this preaches to us and educates us, and calls scientific terms combinations of words and letters..
To Judah
Here is a link to the scope experiment
https://youtu.be/HY7GQxU1HLk
Many files are attached to the video, which help to understand the topic.
And now to the point.
The only way to invalidate the result of the experiment, or to confirm the result of the experiment, is by a repeated experiment by a respected scientific institution, such as the Technion, for example, the Weizmann Institute, the National Laboratory of Physics, and more.
I asked them for a repeat test, but they did not respond.
I guess they are afraid of a situation where they confirm the result of the experiment, and then the academy will have to invalidate all mathematical activity in the geometric field of circles, from the days of Archimedes to this day.
Any mathematical verbal criticism of the experiment is worthless, because with an experiment, you have to talk about a repeated experiment.
And regarding the ancient physical subject that no one knows what it is, and its accepted name consists of the combination of the letters h and mr... Newton stated that matter is a quantitative concept - but he was wrong
There are only 5 continuous quantitative things in our world, and they are length, area, volume, energy and time.
Time has an active aspect that exists only in human consciousness, and there is a physical passive aspect that fills the infinite space.
The passive time is absolute rest and absolute cold, it is the medium for transmitting waves of passive time, whose former name is electromagnetic waves.
Matter is created by combining amounts of passive time and energy, and this distinction creates a completely new universe, different from the universe of Newton and Einstein.
The two fundamental concepts in Newton's universe are matter and force
The two fundamental concepts in Einstein's universe are matter and energy
And the two fundamental concepts in the neural universe are passive time and energy.
There are many of my articles on the subject
A. Asbar
to Israel and was upset
My response is directed at both of you, so I apologize in advance for lumping you together. I will try not to leave a comment.
to Israel, 4.5 hours 00:43
I also noticed that Asbar is not ready to conduct an experiment that might disprove his words and this is a big disadvantage for a thinker. Already Galileo conducted an experiment from the Tower of Pisa when he wanted to prove that balls of different weights would fall with the same speed. Asbar needs to be convinced that this is a big disadvantage for any opinion thinker.
And it is true, the thing that if there is dark matter to buy in the grocery store I will not doubt its existence, but I still will not share it with the movement of the galaxies because I have a simpler explanation for their movement, and a simple explanation is better.
Annoy 4.5 hour 7:43
You state that every circle has its own phi, and you are wrong in a big way. Pi is an irrational number and any rational result that you will set for us to solve by Pi is wrong and 3.14 is also incorrect. Are you claiming that math determined phi to be 3.14? Again you are wrong. What do you think about the fact that we have already been determined by mathematicians with an accuracy of one million digits after the point. So the scope experiment you performed is very far from accurate in its mechanical form at the level of a million digits after the point!!
In the rest of your response, you use new and undefined concepts such as "passive tense" which you do not explain what they determine and what their definition is. Therefore, I cannot express my opinion about them.
Happy bone holiday, sad!
And later, at 4.5 hours 11:03 Israel Shapira suggests you do your experiment with ten times the rounds and you resist. It is not scientific what you are doing, and Israel Shapira is right that there is no point in all your statements. Understand Abar, it's not a shame to fail one of your big ideas, just like I won't be offended if the dark matter particle is suddenly discovered....
I'm tired, I'll continue later.
Good day and happy holidays!!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
happy Independence Day
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
A. Asbar
All right, you're sad, we all understood that you're a slob and an idler, you'll twist and sing and sweat, but you won't do the experiment.
That's why I edited it for you, not with 600 but with 6000 rounds.
The results show without a shadow of a doubt that pi changes with the radius of the circle!
Indeed, as natural knowledge and elementary logic tell us, the smaller the radius of the circle, the smaller the pie.
There is no refuge and no escape
Tutelus Nerve Theory.
differential integral
Such an imfantile charlatan
Stupid and stupid
A total failure
This time you managed to produce a confused, meandering, and useless answer, from which I liked the word calculus
Here is a song I wrote in which this word stars
You will probably notice that this poem presents the failure of mathematics in the geometric field of circles.
A happy song, actually a sad song
oh my oh my what happened to me
The mess is really total
Ini - Finnish - Tsi - Malian
differential and integral
There is no refuge and no escape
around a calculus bracket
The border escaped a derivative jump
I didn't understand, what do you mean?
Tori infinity on the ladder
Gather here, everyone
Pushed in a foam
They are looking for the sequence
and such delicate tangents
Looking for circles
You will follow the deep path
of the launch point
And the function no longer moves
Awaiting analysis
Archimedes set the tone here
And after him also came Newton
And who is on the horizon there peeking
Maybe maybe it's Leibniz too
The history trail has already been deployed
Here walks Pythagoras
oh my oh my what happened to me
The mess is really total
Ini - Finnish - Tsi - Malian
differential and integral
There is no refuge and no escape
around a calculus bracket
A. Asbar
So do the experiment slowly so that there is no heating, what's more, the heating doesn't really matter as long as it is uniform throughout the experiment.
It is not possible to speak to you respectfully. At the time you ran me through the proof just to establish a category that calculus is not acceptable to you and you didn't study it at all. Now you managed to work on Yehuda as well.
You are against the thesis of a scientist, we must warn you because you are like that.
Ahithophel, by the way, made the right decision. If Absalom had listened to him, he would have deposed David and remained king.
Israel, what happened to your speaking language? Know that ridicule is the last refuge of the ignorant.
And apart from the unpleasantness of reading your message, you gave me Ahithophel's advice.
After all, if I conduct the scope experiment with 600 revolutions of the 2 mm diameter steel shaft (which is pressed against the 120 mm diameter steel wheel), they will immediately say that the steel shaft has heated up and its diameter is large, and this phenomenon explains the experimental result, which says that the diameter of 2 mm, it is slightly larger than a 120 mm diameter pie.
Then the drama will be honored in its place, and scientific considerations will be honored in their place, and the experiment of the scope will occupy a place of honor in the world of science, as an experiment that revealed to the world the existence of a new geometry.
Drama.. indeed a pure scientific consideration.
Thank you Asbar for letting everyone understand how a stupid, delusional lunatic thinks.
In downtown Los Angeles there are thousands of geniuses like Asbar who live on the street and mutter their mistakes to anyone who will listen.
Yoda, do you still see yourself in the same group with Asbar?
The drama Israel, the drama is very important,
Even in 60 rounds you get the dramatic result "the ratio of the diameters (not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
This equinox is tiny, but it exists beyond any doubt, and it goes beyond the realm of error.
Those who do not believe - repeat the experiment.
But no one repeats the experiment, and usually everyone dismisses it, because in their opinion there must be a measurement error.
In short... everyone believes in the equation... the ratio of the diameters (equal) to the ratio of the circumferences,
And they don't believe in an anti-equation... the ratio of the diameters (not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
And the mathematicians who are captive to the notion that mathematical practice is perfect, logical, and accurate say that it is impossible for a mechanical experiment to reveal a mathematical truth, which is unknown to mathematics.
I understand the mathematicians, the scope experiment states that the activity of mathematics in the geometric field of circles (in the last 2000 years) is riddled with errors, and a brave mathematician who seeks the truth is needed - who will admit this.
And by the way, a mathematician with natural knowledge knows that circles are not similar to each other, so it is impossible for all of them to have a single shape number. (form number is a ratio number)
A. Asbar
Kashkashanovich
Maybe you will already answer what you are being asked instead of repeating your delusional mantras?
"If the experiment is so accurate, why don't you perform it but with 10 times the rotations as you have been asked several times to reduce the measurement error?"
Israel Shafira
Benign Israel with great appreciation - let's start from the beginning.
The mathematicians determined just like that (and they claim we proved it) that all circles have a single number that expresses the ratio between the circumference and the diameter, and its approximate value is 3.14
And I claim: based on the idea of the only number, it can be concluded that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (must be equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
Is this equation correct? If the single number idea is true, then this equation is also true. Since the idea of the only number is determined just like that (and it cannot be proven)
There is only one option left, and that is to check the correctness of the said equation.
The only way to check the correctness of the equation (the ratio of the diameters = to the ratio of the circumferences) is by way of a practical experiment, which has never been conducted.
That's why I conducted an innovative experiment that tested whether the ratio of the diameters of two steel cylinders (really equal) to the ratio of their circumferences, and I got the answer "not equal".
This is a tiny inequality, but it exists without a shadow of a doubt.
This inequality is due to the fact that each cylinder has a different value of the ratio between the circumference and the diameter. (If you wish, then each cylinder has its own pie)
From this it is already clear that each diameter has a different value of the ratio between the circumference and the diameter, and one only needs to find a formula that gives each diameter its ratio, between the circumference and the diameter. This is the Asbar formula, which I have already published here as well and all that remains is to publish it throughout the world of science.
As Einstein's formula MCC=E brought to the world a new physics
This is how the Asbar formula brought a new geometry to the world.
And a final note - you can't prove equality - but you can prove inequality.
It is impossible to prove that pi is equal in all circles, but it is possible to prove that it is not equal. It is impossible to prove that two pencils are equal in length, but it is possible to prove if they are not equal in length.
The perimeter experiment revealed an inequality, and a new geometry was born.
A. Asbar
"Only the scope experiment, which includes precise mechanical measurement, discovered them."
Stop talking, get upset.
If the experiment is so accurate, why don't you perform it but with 10 times the rotations as you were asked several times to reduce the measurement error?
At least one good thing comes out of all your babbling: the ability of commenters to see live how a delusional and stupid charlatan works.
I know that mathematics will reject out of hand a mechanical experiment that claims to discover a mathematical truth. Therefore I will try to offer a short verbal summary.
The entire activity of mathematics in the geometric field of circles is based on two wrong ideas.
A: All circles are similar to each other, and have the same shape.
B: The perimeter of a perfect polygon blocking a circle is greater than the perimeter of the circle.
Mathematics knows how to calculate the perimeter of a polygon enclosed in a circle, according to the diameter of the circle.
(Calculation A - only on straight line segments)
Mathematics also knows how to calculate the perimeter of a polygon blocking a circle, according to the diameter of the circle.
(Calculation B - only on straight line segments)
But mathematics does not know how to calculate the circumference of a circle based on its diameter, since it is a segment of a straight line (the diameter) and a closed circular line (the circumference)
And what did the math do? She used the average of the results of calculations a, b,
(which is a number slightly larger than 3.14) and determined arbitrarily that this number would express the circumference of the circle according to its diameter.
This is how the operation of mathematics on the subject of circles ended, with two wrong ideas, and an inaccurate number a little larger than 3.14, which contains another wrong idea.
The third wrong idea stems from a casual decision, which stated that the number which is a little bigger than 3.14, will fit all the circles from the smallest to the largest.
The three erroneous ideas have existed since the days of Archimedes, and only the scope experiment involving precise mechanical measurement revealed them.
If the scope experiment had not appeared, the three false ideas of mathematics would have existed forever, handed down from generation to generation as truth.
And if I may add.
The universe works by itself, and no gravity is needed to move it.
The physical concept of passive time filling infinite space awaits recognition.
The idea that matter is a "physical form" also awaits recognition.
The substance is created by combining amounts of passive time and energy.
It's a shame that PDF files cannot be published in science, if approval comes there will be a big celebration here.
happy Independence Day
A. Asbar
There is an unequivocal difference between those thinkers you described and Asbar.
Asbar is not ready to conduct a simple experiment that could disprove his words, or perhaps worse, conduct it and realize that he was wrong.
A Kelsey charlatan, a pathetic rascal.
I've been conducting various experiments for years, but I'm still waiting for a "slam dunk" - an unequivocal answer to the question of whether what I'm saying is true. See:
https://youtu.be/3l8u1qm_0Og
I believe you too will no longer doubt the dark matter if you buy a kilo of it at the grocery store..
Israel Shapira
Brother Salno!
Wouldn't you be willing to respond only to those who agree with your opinions??, I would like to respond to people with an open mind, who would be willing to discuss and confront unusual opinions, which are not generally accepted. I believe that you, Nissim, and myself, are ready to hear and confront about unusual opinions, and this absolutely does not determine anything in terms of consent. So here you are proving to me that it's fun to respond to you and it will be fun to wait for your response, fact, you respond even to Asbar's (in your opinion) delusional responses. And by the way, my dear friend, in which universe can we expect a changing face? (Answer… spherical universe!!)
And regarding a personal opinion about Asbar, my opinion is not much different from yours, my friend, but understand that as soon as we dismiss outright ideas that are unacceptable to us like his, then we sin against other "responders" such as Copernicus, Kepler, Giordano Bruno, Fritz Zviki (of the material Hafel) and many others!!!
And by the way, when I wrote my previous response, I asked myself exactly this question, would Israel Shapira, Nissim and others be angry, so maybe it would be better to eliminate Asbar, but then I also thought about Giordano Bruno....
Understand brother Sally, I'm not thinking about Fay changing, I leave that to worry.
I think of other unacceptable things, such as, the speed of light changes, there is no dark matter and there is no dark energy and above all there is almost no gravitation between the galaxies and... and...
Happy Independence Day dear commenters!
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Most thanks will be accepted, but I don't see a compliment in that you put me and others in the same group with an asbar.
After all, you always claim that the experiment is the final arbiter - so how do you praise a person who refuses to do a simple experiment that could possibly invalidate what he always preaches?
Asbar, in my opinion, is the classic crackpot, trying to impress himself and others with an idea that on the face of it is fundamentally false and refuses to accept any criticism. Even you have fallen into this charlatan's trap. I don't know if you really bothered to understand what he was saying, but the mere fact that he disappears every time he is asked to perform the same experiment that lasts maybe 15 minutes, doesn't that rule him out of the blue as having some kind of connection to the world of science?
Herzl
I am about to say things that will not please a scientific ear:
The serious problem is that from the first day we are born we sing a song of praise to the blessed and good gravity, and as a result, our brain will forever remain fixed to gravity and therefore any solution we seek then it is clear to us that it must not confront the good gravity... and therefore dark matter that justifies the reality of gravity forever will be an excellent solution to the incompatibility of the rotation of the galaxies… but…. It shouldn't be like that!
Science is unprovable and it only advances all the time in attempts to disprove it, we should never think that something is proven forever, to infinity, and even if we are "sure" that gravitation is true to infinity then it is wrong to say that because there are simply no measurements at infinity. point.
Take for example the scholarly commenter named Atzbar. He does not agree to accept scientific truth on a permanent basis (!) and even though I completely disagree with him, Ezbar did not agree to accept scientific truth as a Sinaitic Torah, and this is the character of the person who is suitable to be a scientist and researcher, he is also the person who will listen to me when I declare (perhaps) that gravity Not necessarily the reason for the rotation of the galaxies!
Science needs unfixed people, people of the type of Atzbar, Herzl, Lorem Ipsum, Israel Shapira Nissim, Albonzo and many others, open minded science responders. And it absolutely does not mean that we must agree among ourselves. For example, I'm not sure if Herzl, or others would agree to go so far and see the mental fixation in dark matter only and not (perhaps) in gravitation at all in the big rocks of the universe.
Let's not forget that it is this fixation that creates the dark matter and the "beloved" dark energy.
Please respond gently.
Happy holiday!
Sabdarmish Yehuda
It seems to me that the dark matter enters the brains of astronomers and paralyzes them, similar to amyloids. In both cases - rotation speed of galaxies and Alzheimer's - they try to look for a connection between a measured phenomenon and a hypothesis as to what the cause is, but cannot find it. Alzheimer's was suspected for decades to be the amyloids, apparently not. Biologists internalize and look for other factors. In astronomy there are unexplained measurements, only that 99% of astronomers are stuck with the dark matter and do not divert their thoughts to something else. Lucky that there are still 1% with open minds who come up with new hypotheses.
to accumulate
I have an idea for you:
Do your experiment with two identical small wheels, at different speeds and pressures. The friction will have a greater meaning,
You can also: A. Have the big one rotate the small one. B. Let the little one turn the big one.
draw conclusions. The friction will be more pronounced.
All the best
Yehuda
If anyone believes that there is any value in the musings of Esbar, the thinker of neurophysics and the great educator who preaches to us about meaningless word combinations and meaningless letter combinations, ask him a simple request: that he conduct his celebrated circumference experiment but instead of 60 turns he will spin 600 or better yet 6000.
The request is reasonable and scientific: if, as he said, there is a different pie for each circle, if we got a certain ratio different from pie in 60 rounds, then if we conduct the same experiment with some multiple of 60, the same ratio will remain, right? The experiment is easy and simple and takes a short time and all the equipment is already available. A much larger number of turns will significantly reduce measurement errors.
Who is willing to bet that Asbar will not respond to the request, will not show a video of the improved experiment, will continue to claim that the experiment he conducted is already enough, will continue to shout about a global network of mathematicians who fear that their whole world will be destroyed if the truth about Pi is revealed, and will continue to preach and educate all the laymen (all of us)?
They talked a lot about the combination of the letters material, without knowing what it is? Is it a physical concept? Or a geometric concept?
Is it a quantitative concept? Or is it a form?
I claim that matter is not a quantitative concept, and is in the nature of a physical form.
Details in the attached article
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
Lorem Ipson
I managed to compare all twenty possibilities to the solution I found and all but 2 did not satisfy me as a solution worthy of a Nobel Prize. One of the two solutions is our friend dark matter, which I am short of canceling outright, but the second solution was innovative and promising and in addition, it also provided an explanation for the accelerated expansion of the universe, and this without the need for dark energy!!!
If anyone has connections to Avi Blizovsky, let him convince him to accept my article with all the explanation. If there isn't one, you'll have to believe me!
All the best
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda,
You gave a nice explanation of the dark matter problem but you still haven't passed the first step.
You write: "There are about twenty possibilities for a solution other than dark matter". Well done, so now:
1. Choose one option out of the 20, and make sure to the best of your ability that it is indeed plausible and does not conflict with what we already know about the excess attraction within galaxies from the astronomical data already available to us.
2. Find a way to refute it.
3. Continue with my original algorithm that I already laid out here before. If you don't succeed in locating a free scientific instrument, or if you can't convince a research institute to invest in it, you can try to enter the next decade's decade survey, because the current one is already closed.
In any case, apparently no one has done it yet, because everyone is busy trying to find explanations for the dark mass using different and strange particles with only gravitational interaction, and without (or almost without) electromagnetic, or strong nuclear, or weak nuclear interaction.
Or maybe they did, and managed to disprove most of the said 20 theories?
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Response to Lorem Ibson
First of all, let's be precise in the definition of the problem: and we'll see how we get into the topic of Popper. Gravitation in the solar system is known and proven. The tests were done up to a distance of several tens of astronomical units, about a thousand light years. Now we want to check if gravitation will also operate at distances the size of a galaxy which is about 100,000 light years in size. We will conduct a measurement in which we will put gravitation to the test even at distances of up to one hundred thousand light years, which is one hundred million times that proven in the solar system.
That is:
A. A scientific idea is given - the action of gravitation in the solar system.
B. Bringing up a scientific idea to refute - the action of gravitation works in the same way even at distances in galaxies.
third. Performing an experiment or measurement - we will check if gravitation will act to rotate the large galaxies like in the solar system
d. Conclusion - we measured, the galaxies usually rotate much faster than expected.
That is, gravitation does not work in galaxies in the manner and form, as in the solar system, something fundamentally different in galaxies and we must look for the reason for this. Will the solution come from the addition of matter (dark) to the galaxy, or some other change? There are about twenty possible solutions other than dark matter.
So far.
Have a good week everyone
I will gather peace
I appropriated the link to which I was directed in your previous response. Your proof ignored the friction and possible mystique in the means of measurement you use. First and foremost, the formula in the experiment you are using must include the existence of friction. You can improve the experiment and do it at a different rotation speed and in which you will get different results. at a greater speed and heats up, therefore its diameter increases during the experiment and this is a source of error.
Sorry, I wouldn't see that as proof of my changing.
Have a good week and happy holidays
Sabdarmish Yehuda
What about understanding what dark matter is
And what is dark energy
For the supporters of the philosopher Popper's method
A given scientific idea - the ratio between the circumference of any circle and its diameter - is a certain number.
Bringing up an idea for refutation: if the scientific idea is true, then the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles - must be equal to the ratio of their circumferences.
The circumference experiment established that the ratio of the diameters (is not equal) to the ratio of the circumferences.
Conclusion: The scientific idea is not correct
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
To Lorem Ipsum
I liked your comment 21.4.2022/06/57 time XNUMX:XNUMX
And I agree with the idea that there are several steps before we start investing in solving a scientific problem, and your approach is actually the philosopher Popper's approach to testing a scientific idea, and increasing the range of correctness of a scientific idea.
The steps are generally:
A. Given a scientific idea.
B. come up with an idea to refute
third. perform the experiment or measurement
d. draw conclusions about the correctness of the idea.
I will delve into this way of thinking at the end of the week and draw conclusions. I would love to know what you think?
Good night
Yehuda
OK.
The circumference experiment is an experiment that includes a very precise measurement, and the experiment proves beyond any doubt that the ratio of the diameters of two selected circles (is not equal) to the ratio of their circumferences.
The conclusion: every circle has its pi value.
https://youtu.be/u2vamaSj-mw
Not only does Pi not change, but will exist at its constant value in any other non-deterministic universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb76LQRRIdU
The day science recognizes that pi changes, the perception of the universe will also change.
There is a connection between geometry and the structure of the universe
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/3/c8659042-cdd9-4060-b7fd-a3872d542a4b.pdf
In order to crack some difficult astronomical or physical problem, you first need a reasonable hypothesis, secondly, find a way to disprove it, thirdly, find a scientific device that already exists (a ground or space telescope with the appropriate wavelength, a particle accelerator of the right type and with the right energies, etc.), and it is desirable to find among the possible ones the The cheapest and free of their constructions, fourthly to petition the owners of the device to carry out the experiment and the benefits that can be derived from it, fifthly to approach the implementation of the detailed planning of the experiment, sixthly to carry it out, and seventhly to analyze the results and draw conclusions about your hypothesis.
Only if there is no suitable device that can disprove your hypothesis, you will be forced to design a new device from scratch, and if it is insanely expensive, so that you cannot finance it from the pocket money of your research institute, you can go and try to enter the NASA decade survey. So to sum up the dark matter puzzle is not yet in stage 2, and the dark energy puzzle is not yet in stage 1, so to demand to do something for them that takes from stage 4 or 5 is a little early.
I have never understood why astronomical sums are invested for the discovery of findings that have no use, what does it have for the common citizen that I know there are a few more neutron stars or black holes?
As long as these imaginary sums are not invested in the development of energy and engines that will make it possible to move at a speed approaching the speed of light, there is no meaning to the findings of Earth-like stars, even with an engine at the speed of light (not to mention materials that will hold the shell of the spacecraft at this psychic speed) it will take thousands of years to get there ( At the speed of light, yes?).
Technology should be invested in the development of engines and propulsion methods, in the development of anesthesia methods over hundreds of years, etc.
The title of the article: "Astronomy's wish list for the next ten years" seems like a promising title, but I immediately noticed that there was not a word about the really big question of science, the nature of dark matter and energy. To address all kinds of minor problems (the solution of which requires a lot of money) and to ignore the problems of the existence of dark matter and energy for the purpose of explaining the behavior of the universe, is something that will not be done! This shows the mentally fixed behavior of the researchers, to whom we gave the decision of what to investigate next and what is important to investigate.
The time has come, after about a hundred years of using dark matter and energy, for the purpose of explaining the whole problem of the incompatibility between gravitation and the movement of the galaxies with the help of an illusory dark matter that no one knows what it is, and in addition to explaining the accelerated expansion of the universe with dark energy, which was also invented only for the aforementioned expansion.
We need to hurry and clean up the dark matter found in the textbooks for a hundred years, mainly so that we don't come to the bad conclusion that the dark matter settles permanently in the way of thinking of the researchers' minds.
The time has come for scientists to consider the possibility that dark matter and energy do not exist and a new productive explanation for the behavior of galaxies is needed.
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda
The title of the article: "Astronomy's wish list for the next ten years" seems like a promising title, but I immediately noticed that there was not a word about the really big question of science, the nature of dark matter and energy. To address all kinds of minor problems (the solution of which requires a lot of money) and to ignore the problems of the existence of dark matter and energy for the purpose of explaining the behavior of the universe, is something that will not be done! This shows the mentally fixed behavior of the researchers, to whom we gave the decision of what to investigate next and what is important to investigate.
The time has come, after about a hundred years of using dark matter and energy, for the purpose of explaining the whole problem of the incompatibility between gravitation and the movement of the galaxies with the help of an illusory dark matter that no one knows what it is, and in addition to explaining the accelerated expansion of the universe with dark energy, which was also invented only for the aforementioned expansion.
We need to hurry and clean up the dark matter found in the textbooks for a hundred years, mainly so that we don't come to the bad conclusion that the dark matter settles permanently in the way of thinking of the researchers' minds.
The time has come for scientists to consider the possibility that dark matter and energy do not exist and a new productive explanation for the behavior of galaxies is needed. (A simple universe, article 75-82)
Please respond gently
Sabdarmish Yehuda