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Survive Death with Larry King Live

About deliberate obfuscation and concealment of information on American television

by Michael Shermer

Have you died and come back to life? me neither. nobody. But many people claim they came back from the dead and their stories were at the center of Larry King's live show. I served there, in December 2009, in the role of court skeptic surrounded by believers, including CNN's medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, the New Age author, Deepak Chopra, a soccer referee who "died" on the field, and an 11-year-old boy, James Leininger, the believer In whose body was embodied the soul of a fighter pilot from the Second World War.

Dr. Gupta opened by saying that in medical school he learned how to determine the exact minute of death, although in fact, the death can take several minutes or even several hours, depending on the conditions. And as Gupta said, people who fell into frozen lakes and "died" weren't really dead. Their core body temperature dropped so quickly that their vital organs were preserved long enough for CPR to be performed later. In other words, people who experience a near-death experience (NDE) do not actually die.

The problem of this definition came up again when the guest interviewer, Jeff Provost (who rose to fame, fittingly, on the TV show "Survivor"), introduced the soccer referee: "A man who died on the soccer field seven years ago and came back to life." Gupta added that "he would have been dead for two minutes and 40 seconds." When I was asked to give an explanation for this, I replied: "He wasn't dead! You started the program with the words of Sanjay Gupta who explained that we cannot determine that someone died at a certain moment and at a certain time. It doesn't work that way. The dying process takes two, three, five, ten minutes until its end. The judge was not dead. He was on the brink of death." In fact, moments after he collapsed, the judge's heart restarted after being connected to an automated external defibrillator. There is no miracle here that needs to be explained.

Vague language is very common in such discussions, and no one used it better than Dr. Chopra who explained the near-death experience: "There are schools of thought that claim that the in-body experience is a collective hallucination that is implanted in us by society. We do not exist within our bodies. The body exists in us. We do not exist in the world. The world exists in us." And this is what Chopra says about death: "Birth and death are space-time events in the sequence of life. Therefore, the opposite of life is not death. The opposite of life is birth. And the opposite of birth is death. And life is the sequence of birth and death, which goes on and on." When I asked what happened to the soul of little James Leininger if the soul of the fighter pilot from World War II now resides in his body, Chopra answered an answer that was the icing on the cake of his vague lips: "Imagine that you are looking at the sea, and today you see many waves in it. And the next day you see fewer waves... His thing you call a person is actually a pattern of behavior within the universal consciousness." And as he directs his words to our host, he continued, “There is no such thing as Jeff, because the thing we call Jeff is an ever-changing awareness that appears to be a certain personality, a certain mind, a certain ego, a certain body. But, you know, we had another Jeff when you were ten. We had another Jeff when you were a baby. Which one is the real Jeff?” Jeff looked as confused as I felt.

When Gupta was asked how he as a doctor deals with such apparent medical miracles, he failed with the "argument from ignorance" ad ignorantium*): "When I studied the subject for a long time, I thought I could explain everything physiologically. But things that I heard, and confirmed, and in the end also believed in convinced me that there are things that I cannot explain. At this moment, at the moment of the near-death experience, things happen that simply cannot be explained using existing scientific knowledge."

So what? The fact that we cannot explain some mystery naturally is not proof that its explanation is supernatural. It just means that we don't know everything. This uncertainty is the heart of science and is what makes science such a challenging undertaking.

Michael Shermer is the publisher of Skeptic magazine (www.skeptic.com) and the author of the book "How We Believe".

5 תגובות

  1. Even those who understand and believe in spiritual teachings, such as Indians and those who accept Judaism, explain that this is the reincarnation of a soul. Zupara's explanation is the only one that understands the explanation that has a deep extension in the Kabbalistic book of the Gate of Incarnation. Man is a consciousness that contains different layers and a body. The body is a vessel and 5 parts above it. They go in and out there and there. And so the boy James is not a reincarnation of James the pilot who fell with his plane. But a part of the pilot's spirit entered - in the language of Kabbalah it was conceived - this is called transmigration. And so he remembers. This is not a healthy situation. And there are different types of embryos. In short, this is not a soul reincarnation, it is simply a transmigration that also happens to mediums. Here the transition simply lasts longer. A person is only a soul incarnation of himself. and can be honored to host another person's spirit. Usually it is not revealed with such clarity.

  2. I usually stay away from mindless, astrologers believe in, demons, souls, reincarnations, passions, Lilith
    Everything that cannot be touched will remain in the realm of the imagination,
    Hello,

  3. Broadcaster Larry King is known to believe in false beliefs, such as reincarnation and communication with the dead. In his programs, he gives a lot of space to the performances of all kinds of crooks who claim supernatural powers.
    These actions of his are often accompanied by personal, intellectual and journalistic dishonesty.
    You can read about it on the website of the well-known skeptic and fraudster, the amazing magician, James Randi.

  4. How amusing, when he says that it is meaningless to talk about a concrete person, but only about a "stream of consciousness", so what does it mean to say that the soul of person Y was incarnated in child X? After all, none of them really exist anyway. They just contradict themselves.

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