The travelers who will be chosen in a worldwide reality show will stay on Mars for the rest of their lives
The reality TV genre is coming to Mars. The Dutch entrepreneur Bas Lansdrup leads a group of businessmen that wants to send four people to Mars by 2023, and they say that the cost of the operation will reach 6 billion dollars, a negligible amount for a country like the USA but not small for a start-up company.
By the way, this is a negligible amount in terms of a manned space flight, just for comparison, the average launch of space shuttles at the end of their life reached a billion dollars, the funding will come, according to them, from the sale of broadcasting rights in media around the world, and by the way, this is a one-way trip.
"Who wouldn't want to participate in an adventure like this?" Shaul Lansdorp in his biography on the website Mars One.
"Who wouldn't want to watch, talk, be involved in the greatest operation that humanity has ever undertaken? The whole world will follow the great step from the beginning, from the selection of the astronauts to the establishment of the independent settlement years later. The focus of the media that reaches public attention opens the way for sponsors and investors."
As far as perception is concerned The flight is one way, on the Mars One website they write about it: Our project does not rule out that there will be a return flight at some time in the future.
The difference between this mission and the one proposed by Jim McClain in 2008 is that McClain only wanted to send one person to Mars. However, the Mars One group says that once the journey is successful and Mars becomes a more developed place, it will be easier to build a spacecraft there for a return trip.
In a Q&A forum on REDDIT, Lansdorp says that the big challenge will be funding. "We estimate and have spoken with our suppliers, that the cost of such a project of sending the first four people to Mars will reach about 6 billion dollars. We plan to organize the biggest media event around our mission. When we send humans to Mars and when they land, the whole world will be watching. After that many people will be interested to see how our people on Mars live.
However, the big challenge is that the big expenses will be the construction of the equipment before the launch. This is why we are building a strong technical system, if we can convince sponsors and investors that this will actually happen, then we believe we can convince them to help us finance it." Lansdorp said.
As far as technologies are concerned, Mars One is expected to use SpaceX's heavy rocket launcher, the Fallon 9, as the launch vehicle. A transit vehicle from Earth to Mars will be built by Thales Alania Space, a version of SpaceX's Dragon spacecraft will be used as a lander for an inflatable residential complex will be built by ILC Dover, an all-terrain vehicle by MDA Space Missions and the Paragon company will manufacture the space suits for staying on Mars.
The project website states that no new technologies will be required, but does the space agency or any company have experience in supplying abundant air, oxygen, energy, food and water for a lifetime?
Instead, the website answers questions such as what will the astronauts do on Mars, why should they go to Mars, is it safe to live on Mars, how will the base on Mars communicate with Earth? And does Mars One really believe that this can be done with the existing technologies. No one really knows how to land a large payload on Mars, so at least some level of development will be required.
Who will travel? Later this year, they will begin recruiting and eventually 40 people will participate in a decade-long training camp (which in itself is expensive) where the contestants will go through a round of votes and eliminations until there are four left.
The selection and training process will be broadcast on television and on the Internet to the general public when viewers will vote on the selection of the four winners.
This is an intriguing proposal but full of technological obstacles, judging at least by Ben Bova's book "Mars", the astronauts of the Mars One project will have to be careful of swarms of micro meteorites.
MARS ONE website
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Sending any biological entity to Mars is a scumbag by any measure. There is no scientific achievement in the presence of man on Mars. Robots will do the job very well.
Mars at temp. low that the maximum will not exceed 0 degrees. There is no radiation protection. No air, about 0.05bar, no water. The gravity is low and is slightly more than the gravity of the moon. there's nothing. The sun's intensity is extremely small and is less than 50% of the Earth's. The most important detail is biological contamination of Mars, as a result of which any research on Mars will be useless. So, those who want to commit suicide at a lower cost, can do it here. The whole idea of sending people to Mars is purely financial so that we (scientists?) can convince idiots to waste their money on this irresponsible and worthless dutiful thing. It is appropriate that responsible governments prevent such a stupid and irresponsible act.
Maybe they will be able to have children there and then humanity will develop there
I think the future will prove that life on Mars is impossible.
Efforts to colonize Mars would prove to be a misdirection for scientific development and would soon be abandoned.
The reason for this is quite simple, the conditions on Mars do not allow life to exist
Over time. Mars does not have a magnetic field that protects its inhabitants from cosmic and magnetic radiation.
The reddish atmosphere is very thin, as a result of the incessant cosmic bombardment, therefore
It will remain so even if theoretically they succeed in growing some plants in some cave.
There is no liquid water on Mars and as far as is known today, there are no significant concentrations of water on Mars
Metals and a variety of chemical elements essential for an autonomous life. Everything depends on the supply from KDA.
It is expensive and futile. Life is more likely to exist on Venus. Although Venus looks like hell today
On earth, but there is a lot of organic matter there, there is a magnetic field that protects against cosmic radiation.
What currently inhibits the development of life on Venus are high temperature and pressure levels.
If through the methods of genetic engineering they succeed in developing bacteria that feed on Matan (which is found in abundance in the atmosphere of Venus)
Resistant to the temperatures and pressure on Venus, so they can be implanted on Venus and they will cause there
to the process of changing the structure of the atmosphere. The concentration of oxygen and nitrogen will increase, the temperature and pressure will decrease, min
New bacteria will develop and accelerate the process, until conditions develop that will allow terrestrial life on Venus.
In conclusion: the revival of Venus will begin in the biology laboratories.
Yehuda - You claim that we are not yet or not at all culturally and morally mature for space expansion.
But the world was like this in comparison even in the 17th century when he sailed to America. Even then they spread the DNA in new districts. True, they killed Indians - but also something new and interesting. Not necessarily negative. Not always positive.
But in two world wars it was more of a positive factor than a negative one.
This world will be a world of much bad and little good, in an extremely fragile state, when evil is easier to grow than good. I subjectively believe that an independent settlement that starts from Earth on another planet, can reach achievements that earthly politics cannot.
Try to think what it is like in Israel to separate religion from state, or not to repeat the Messianism that destroyed two houses.
It is almost politically impossible. On Mars, people will arrive who may be assigned to Earth and want to try somewhere else.
In fictional technologies, according to known laws, it doesn't seem entirely big for us to spread out into the distance. All the nonsense of Star Trek - gravity propulsion, space propulsion. I would like us to reach such a vision, within hundreds of years.
To Avi Blizovsky, if you have decided that the last comment will appear at the top, you must arrange for the comment option to also appear at the top so that we can respond without wandering to the bottom of the comment array.
Shabbat Shalom
Yehuda Sabdarmish
post Scriptum. Maybe add a link "from the end to the beginning" or "from the beginning to the end" like in Vinet.
Liron
You said: "Our destiny is, in my opinion, to colonize planets."
Maybe this is your destiny. I think it's better to see how we live on this ball of ours and not look for ways to spread our DNA in the galaxy.
If we do not act on this, I fear that the human race will not survive the third millennium.
In your opinion, are we organized for the economy of a population measured in tens of billions of people? I think not.
Shabbat Shalom
Yehuda
on the contrary. It is necessary to define a destination for a trip to Mars, just as they defined an electric vehicle destination. The first company may go bankrupt but the practical technology is already happening. Necessity to colonize other planets in order to increase the diversity of the progress of the human race. It is quite likely today that panspermia theory is correct - the probability of the formation of a DNA molecule is too small for one star, but DNA-like elements are found in meteorites. The probability of evolution from a DNA molecule in a star is probably high. Therefore, naturally or artificially and by initiative, life is seeded on other planets
He is in my opinion to settle planets.
The proposal is not realistic, the challenge is realistic. The flood of challenges to deal with is great for a startup.
The challenges are known and there are also solutions - the cost is too great.
An offer should always give a life option to the people who participate in it.
The NASA project that was rejected and canceled included the construction of life systems in Modi'in. Using a nuclear engine and not nuclear fuel would have given a return option. It is understood that the mother spacecraft cannot then land on Mars with today's technology.
Just like in the movies about Mars. We will send a daughter spacecraft.
The world is disorganized and busy now with activities of survival, and demographic wars. Who can lift the project is China. They have 10 billion dollars available for a space program.
The US and Russia are investing $1.2 trillion each in security. 10 billion sounds small - they have no interest.
The current US president has a vision but little. It does not include the conquest of space.
A future world - maybe he could unite for such a project.
If it's reality, they should really start with the moon first
Most likely, their life span will also be extremely short.
Yehuda
People will demand to exchange heaven for hell for the rest of their lives
The real initiative here is not to fly to Mars, but to make money from something that in the end won't even happen.
The reality show will start 10 years before the supposed flight to Mars. For years the program will make a lot of money, and finally it will be canceled for one reason or another.
Laban Ner and others
At the time, Mars had a lot of volcanic activity and in addition liquid water activity, so it most likely has caves. Therefore, in an article I published at the time also on the scientist website, it is better for the first people on Mars to live in caves, where they would have more protection against radiation from meteorites and solar storms and Mars. This is cheaper and safer than Ben Ner's proposals.
Their stay there in the caves must be prepared by opening the cave with the help of robots and appropriate vegetation. Only then send the Mars pioneers
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Sabdarmish Yehuda
There are many difficulties and problems on Mars. One of them is atmosphere
Very sparse. The initial association is that you can't breathe out there,
You need breathing apparatus, like divers. But it won't be possible to talk outside either,
Wireless radios will have to be used. Daily life will go on
Inside sealed balloons are made of a thick and durable plastic material, densely meshed
In metal wires conducting electric current to create a magnetic field, for protection from cosmic radiation.
In short, high energy consumption. Of course, the energy consumption will also be required for energy items
More such as air-oxygen creation, air conditioning and purification, water extraction, waste removal and processing, and much more.
As of today, the existing technology for utilizing solar energy will not be able to provide the solution.
Solving the energy problem with yes, is the key to transferring human life to Mars.
Not only meteor swarms but also other problems such as: radiation, lost calcium, other medical and mental problems, solar storms, various technological problems. Financial problems as a result of the high cost - possibility of bankruptcy and disconnection.
I don't suggest messing with it. If anything, then it is advisable to deal with the moon. Closer and we can also talk about a return. Also the possibility of reducing costs by mining helium three and other minerals.
I give up my turn for the flight.
Good night
Yehuda