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About dragons, chimeras and clocks - special questions and answers

Here are a number of interesting and unusual questions raised by 'Making History' listeners in a special episode dedicated entirely to questions and answers

An illustrated dragon on a children's book
An illustrated dragon on a children's book

(The article is taken from the program 'Making history!', A bi-weekly podcast about science, technology and history)

Lior Melamed asks: What would have happened if they had not stopped the hybridization between humans and animals and destroyed the resulting cells?

Before we answer the question 'what will happen if we don't stop the experiment and destroy the resulting cells?', it might be worth checking why these experiments are stopped at all. The answer to this question lies in the purpose of the experiments.

The scientists who perform genetic experiments in which human genes and animal genes are mixed, do not do them just to see what will come out. These experiments have a clear purpose. A group of British scientists, for example, implanted human DNA (DNA is our genetic material, which transmits our traits from generation to generation) into cow cells - with the aim of examining the response of the resulting cells to certain treatments for Alzheimer's disease. For the purpose of this individual experiment, there is no need to grow a perfect and mature creature - a few dozen cells in a test tube are enough. As soon as the experiment ends, the cells have done their thing and are destroyed.

In other experiments it is actually desirable to grow an adult creature. There are researchers who have changed the genetic material of goats to make them produce in their milk medicines that are good for humans: a sort of biological 'factory'. In this case, only the specific genes required to produce the additive in milk are changed. The goat still looks like a goat, acts like a perfectly normal goat, and eats what goats eat, which of course is goat cheese.

A distinction must be made between two different types of 'genetic mixing'. The first type is called a 'chimera', and is a situation where in the same organism there are two types of cells with completely different genetic material. For example, the heart is made from cells that contain one type of genetic material, and the liver from a completely different genetic material. To give a simple example, it's like a car that has a European transmission and a driver's seat of a Japanese car (may God have mercy on those who have such a car). In reality, chimeras may be very useful: for example, a pig in which a human liver is grown with strictly human cells, which can then be transplanted into patients without fear of rejection.

The name 'chimera' comes to us from Greek mythology, where the chimera was a terrible monster that was a combination of everything that scared the ancient Greeks: a lion's head, a goat's body, a snake's tail and other similar combinations. The chimera was destroyed by the hero Balerphon who was riding the winged horse Pegasus, but its name remains with us to this day.

The second type of genetic mixture is the creation of combined DNA - that is, in the same cell there is genetic material from the original animal, as well as human DNA. In that case, you get a creature that has features that are partly human and partly animal, such as the bacteria that produce insulin that I mentioned in the previous examples. If we take the idea one step further, into the field of science fiction, we may get an improved person (ParaHuman), a kind of Superman. For example, a sprinter with bursting power like a cheetah, or a dancer with feline flexibility. On the other hand, we might get something closer to the Ninja Turtles - who knows. This type of experiment is strongly opposed by people who claim that these combinations are immoral, but this is a complicated and complex discussion that should be left for another time.

Yaniv Dubovsky asks: Why did they divide the day into twenty-four hours, and the hour into sixty minutes, and the minute into sixty seconds? Does the origin of the name 'Second' come from the second division of the hour?

This is indeed a fascinating question. We are so used to the division of time into months, days, hours, minutes and seconds - a division that we grow into and learn from infancy - that it seems natural and self-evident. But when you look at our accepted time division, you find that it is very strange. We divide the year into twelve months, but the hour into sixty minutes. Our usual counting method, the method by which we count apples or money, is generally decimal. Why does this confusion exist?

This rush indicates the gradual development of the methods of dividing time since the dawn of history. The method we use today is the result of corrections, upgrades and additions of all those previous methods that our ancestors used since the cave days.
The division into days is clear: the sun rises and sets - one day. Three hundred and sixty-five days pass each year - this is easy to see by the path the sun takes in the sky: every year, the paths repeat themselves. The moon circles the earth once a month, twelve times a year - this is also a clear division.

indeed? Our ancestors got into a fair amount of trouble because of this "simple" division. It turns out that a year is not exactly three hundred and sixty-five days, but three hundred and sixty-five and a quarter days. The moon, unfortunately, orbits the earth once every twenty-nine and a half days, and not exactly every thirty days. These small deviations may seem insignificant to us, but over the years they accumulate and accumulate - until suddenly we discover that spring no longer comes in April, but in October!

Julius Caesar tried to solve this problem in 46 BC. He announced that once every four years another day is added to the month of February - this is a 'leap year' - thereby correcting the small deviation and spring returns to April.

But the problems did not end here. It turns out that the length of the year is not exactly three hundred and sixty-five days and a quarter, but a little less than a quarter. The small deviation slowly accumulated until fifteen hundred years after Julius, in the 14th century, they suddenly noticed that once again the calendar had gone completely wild. There was a deviation of ten days between the calendar and the sun, moon and seasons. The problem was that now there was no longer a powerful Roman emperor who could decide what the calendar would look like and those who dared to oppose him found themselves talking to the lions in the Colosseum. Europe was divided into small states and principalities that each did, basically, what they wanted.

The only substitute for Julius Caesar was the Pope. He wasn't as powerful as he was, but at least he had spiritual authority over millions of his believers around the world. Pope Gregory VIII decided to move the calendar forward ten days to close the gap with reality. He also added minor corrections to the Julian calendar, making it the Gregorian calendar.

The division of the day into twenty-four hours is older, and is attributed to the ancient Egyptians. They invented the sundials, and divided the day into twelve parts. Since the hours depended on the movement of the sun, they were not fixed in length: in the summer the day is longer and therefore the hours are longer. In winter the day is short and so are the hours. The ancient Greeks tried to remedy this problem but it was not until the invention of mechanical clocks in the sixteenth century that the hour became a truly fixed measure of time.

The division of the hour into sixty minutes, and sixty seconds into one minute, probably comes from the Babylonians. The Babylonians used the method of dividing by sixty because it is easier to calculate fractions in the head, without a page and paper: the number sixty is perfectly divisible into many numbers: 2, 3,4,5,6,10,12,15 and 30. The number ten, on the other hand, Divisible only by 2 and 5. This division was also preserved by the ancient Greeks, especially in everything related to navigation and astronomy. For navigation using the stars, they divided the sky into three hundred and sixty degrees. Each level was divided into sixty minutes. In Latin, this division is called Prate minute prima - the first small division. Minute means small, and we still say about something that is small that it is 'mini'. The division of the minute into sixty seconds is called Prate minute seconda, that is, the second small division. When the watches were invented that could measure time with a resolution of minutes and seconds, this division was also borrowed into the world of watches.

Ayalon Vakanin asks: What doesn't make sense to scientists about dragons? Have we already seen creatures with scales and dinosaurs with wings?

This is an interesting question. The immediate response to it is 'dragons? What nonsense!' After all, everyone knows that dragons are just an imaginary invention. But with a deeper observation, and familiarity with the vast variety of animals on Earth - the possibility of the existence of dragons somewhere in the mists of history cannot be dismissed without devoting at least a few minutes of thought to the matter.

There are several good reasons why dragons (or dragon-like creatures) may have existed in the past. First, dragons appear in folktales in almost all human cultures! Although in every culture the dragon is depicted differently, but the basic idea is the same. The described creature is reptilian (snake or large lizard), it has a large head with many teeth, a powerful tail and sharp claws on its feet. The differences between the descriptions in the different cultures mainly concern the mystical signs of the dragons: the European dragons spit fire, for example, and are described as evil creatures that like to eat mainly virgin girls. The Chinese dragon, on the other hand, is wise and good-natured, does not hatch lava from its mouth and has no culinary preference based on the victim's sexual history.

There are also physical differences: the European dragon is winged, while the Chinese dragon is wingless and has a lion's mane. Still, the fact that dragons appear in a wide variety of cultures suggests that there is something about this idea that makes it universal. Is it possible that our ancient ancestors knew real dragons in the past, and that the memory of the dragons passed from generation to generation to all of humanity? Were those the dinosaurs?

probably not. The big dinosaurs went extinct more than sixty million years ago, long before humans appeared on the scene or even before our ape ancestors debated whether getting down from the trees would be a wise move. There was no time when humans and dinosaurs lived side by side.
The matter of the fire coming out of the mouth is also problematic. Of all the animal species on earth, the only creature that makes use of fire is man. In order to produce combustion materials inside the body, the animal has to invest very large amounts of energy - because liquid fuel contains very concentrated energy. It is likely that from an evolutionary point of view, it is better to invest this energy in other survival tactics - like running faster, for example.

Where, then, did the dragons come to us? The answer is not clear, but it is likely that there is a combination of several interesting psychological phenomena here. The first is our deep and rooted fear of snakes and animals with large jaws, a fear that our ancestors developed over hundreds of thousands of years - perhaps the idea of ​​the dragon is a play of the human imagination against this fear. It is possible that the idea of ​​the dragon is a 'meme' - a piece of information that fits so well with the way the human brain works, that it is passed from person to person like a flu virus. Another possible reason is the dinosaur bones that have been discovered from time to time in different parts of the world, which combined with the previous reason encouraged the growth of legends about large and threatening animals.

The only real dragon known to science is the Komodo dragon - a terrible lizard, three meters long, that lives in the Indonesian islands. The Komodo is a predator - but its hunting method does not rely exclusively on its agility. Extremely deadly bacteria grow on the Komodo dragon's teeth. The Komodo bites its victim, and after a few days the prey falls to the ground - dead as a result of a severe bacterial infection. It does make a little less noise from the flames through the nostrils - but admit it, it's no less impressive.

(The article is taken from the program 'Making history!', A bi-weekly podcast about science, technology and history)

17 תגובות

  1. Michael,
    Read again, for my response, and its depth.
    Read your comment again.
    The cool commenter, the 17-year-old? He taught me, last night, top value.

    Regarding this forum, I took his offer.

  2. Hugin:
    Well, then you don't believe it.
    The abolition of slavery in America would not have come like this, and even if it had come, there would still be millions of slaves suffering until it arrived.
    The oppressed population in Islamic countries (including all the women in them) is not interested in your faith.
    In general - the idea that the sufferer will wait patiently (from the root of suffering) until the cause of the suffering is inspected (and people who do not suffer - there are not many chances that they will recognize a mistake in their ways) seems to me more like propaganda for the causes of suffering than as a course of action for the sufferer.

  3. Michael,
    I do not believe, neither in destruction nor in coups, (or from coups, in the vernacular.)
    Rather, in acquiring informed insights, and improving the existing one, by considering a phase.
    Fate does the filtering, and it is better to be its partner, not its opponent.

  4. Hugin:
    I try to see everything in a constructive light but in the end I give expression to the things that seem more important to me.
    There is no point in seeing religion in a constructive way because the process of building religion stopped hundreds of years ago. Sometimes - in order to build something new and good, it is necessary to destroy the old thing.

  5. Hello,
    I don't know which current you belong to, but after all, all currents lead
    Hmm.. it turns out, from increasing experience, that the sciences too, after all, strive for truth
    and informed insights..in their own special ways.
    It is possible that you should see the Bible, it is said, as a metaphor for all the revealed truths
    and concealment, according to the states of consciousness that you and others are in.
    I highly recommend you to also read literature outside of the Bible...so far maybe
    You were not allowed to touch them, and if you are interested in future sciences, read the Keys of Enoch by G.G. Hortek, who is also a well-known archaeologist... there is more and more
    Which are not at all contradictory, at the end of the human saga, but enlighten us all
    Additional lights..and by the way, read the book by Yochi Brands - even though she is a woman
    Scholar..Kings XNUMX,..it really is time to open up, and develop in the fruitful direction.

    And to Michael, I strongly recommend you too, to release the charged antagonism a little
    You may see more beautiful things in a constructive light... I'm telling you this, just because
    I appreciated your intellect, and your analytical ways of thinking...except that you are a hidden poet.

  6. Moti:
    Your fervent faith allows you to ignore lies but it doesn't work with thinking humans.
    I no longer have the strength to repeat all the things and delve into all the nonsense, but if you read chapter XNUMX of the Book of Kings XNUMX you will see that even according to the Tanakh no one knew the Torah in the days of Josiah, so how exactly was it supposed to be passed down to us unchanged? After all, even according to the Bible there is no evidence of its existence before the days of Josiah!
    Among the exact scientific facts written in the Torah you will find the lie that a rabbit and a rabbit chew the cud.
    In the instructions for building the copper sea in the temple you will find the nonsense that Pai is equal to three.
    In the words of the Sages you will find that lice and mice are created from inanimate matter.

    And more and more nonsense.

    The scientists may be wrong here and there but their mistake is corrected by them or by those who follow them.

    Religion is one big nonsense that no one can fix.

  7. Hello readers!
    I will refer to the 2 topics in question from the Jewish Torah source which is the most reliable: today thousands of tons of dirt are dug up to find a fragment of information on a stone and only to confirm or confirm ancient events while the Torah was preserved in its original form when it was received (3317 years ago) and much more is told in the Torah books that have Here.

    Regarding the timing of time: the instruction was given to Moshe Rabino, including astrophysics data, as to how to divide time precisely when the knowledge that preceded it came from the first Adam, and how to add knowledge in order to fulfill the mitzvahs of the Torah related to time: knowledge according to which modern science calculates the rotation of Kadaa on its axis missing one hundredth of a second In order to reach the Torah result and this is also proof of the creation of the world in seven days.

    When the rabbi asked him how he knew this fact approximately 2200 years ago, he answered: "This is how I accepted it from my father's house - the law of Moses of Sinai"

    And about the dragon:
    The same Gemara that tells about exact sciences also tells about the ancient ram (dinosaur) that lived at the same time as humanity until the days of Daniel. It could be that these are the dragons in question, it could also be that the Chinese dragon is a different and larger reptile, while in the rest of the world there is a reptile of a similar species.

    The great extinction was caused by Noah's flood in which it is told about the eruption of lava boiling out, while the water itself is boiling and bubbling now cooked in this broth a dinosaur for 40 days with barometric pressures and conditions that existed only then due to God's wrath and you will get bones, material in general with a theological age of millions of years.

    I do not intend to harm scientific theses, but one should also listen to those who were there and wrote it in the book, and not only to the science, which in its place is full of trial and error.

    With love, Muti

  8. The answers to the questions are the same
    If the interbreeding did not stop, dragons would be created.
    And why did they divide the day into 24 and the minutes and seconds into 60?
    A dragon in gematria is 360 and from that you get the rest of the divisions.

  9. ..."The goat still looks like a goat, acts like a completely normal goat, and eats what goats eat, which is of course goat cheese."
    : )

  10. to 1. The truth is that I did not delve deeper, but if I understood correctly, the Egyptians
    who "invented the sundials" did not divide the day into twelve
    Parts (sundials by nature, do not work at night) but only
    the day (and in any case the claim that "in the summer the day is longer"
    Looks like a disorientation in the Hebrew language - and points to a source
    the mistake), the other twelve parts were probably added in the sixteenth century
    With the invention of mechanical watches.

  11. correction

    In answer to the second question
    "Pope Gregory VIII decided to move the calendar forward ten days to close the gap with reality. He also added minor corrections to the Julian calendar, making it the Gregorian calendar."

    Should be Gregory the Thirteenth

  12. I did not understand the division of the day into 24. If the ancient Egyptians divided the day into 12 hours, then where did the 24th come from?

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