At least that's how it seems to the owner of the nickname "Thomas McAquinas" on a science forum in Vala
By: Thomas Aquinas
Subject: In honor of: Mishchilim Company Ltd
Praise be to God, the sages of the land did not fail to see that astrology is an absurdity that is contrary to common sense. We are lucky that you are up there in the company of the educated, you do not accept absurdities.
I mean... you don't accept absurdities as long as you haven't bothered to measure them and turn them into measurements and numbers. But be careful, as soon as someone bothers to measure the absurdity, they will turn it into a number and also scribble some formulas around it, then you can be convinced by any legend...
You scoff at the belief that distant stars affect humans. Naha, but sages like you are able to believe without blinking in far more imaginary legends: take for example the legend that the entire universe includes its stars, galaxies, black holes, scientists, beliefs, astrologers, politicians, Hezbollah, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Rabbi Kaduri, and Dr. Yeshashkari... All of them were once collected as a small pea known as the "big bang".
It is likely that they were a bit crowded there in the pea grain, especially when the milky path pressed the doctor on the left toe, and Rabbi Kaduri had a hard time holding Tzedek on his head, but you can't doubt that, after all, that's what the formulas show!. And when the formulas command us to go into the grain of a pea... there is no choice, someone has to do the work.
And why believe one absurdity and mock another absurdity? Very simply...someone measured the absurd, turned it into numbers, calculated calculations, wrote down formulas and came to the "inevitable" conclusion that the universe started from point 0. The fact that it does not fit with any logic does not bother anyone in the society of the educated, long live the number and the formulas. Contempt for astrologers.
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Subject: Yes, that's pretty much the idea
The first part (as far as I understand) in the formation of a scientific theory is the formation of what is called a "logical theory", or as you call it "writing some formulas around". There are not so many demands from this "logical Torah" except for the demand for logical consistency.
Then you have to explain what makes you think that our universe is a logical structure (model) that fits your Torah and this is where you fall. Scientific theories such as the Big Bang hypothesis are based on the fact that there are certain matches between the predictions of the theory and reality as we understand it, and hence there is a reasonable basis for thinking that the universe does fit as a structure (model) to the Torah (that is, "behaves according to the theory") and then you can say, for example, that a big bang probably occurred Big because some of the consequences that the theory predicts (eg cosmic background radiation) have indeed been discovered.
Now, if you feel like writing a consistent logical theory of astrology and also try to explain why you think reality is a valid structure (model) of it, please. If you also succeed, then world fame is probably expected of you.
From: Jehovah of armies
Topic: The difference between science and faith.
One of the important differences is that scientists, unlike believers, are willing to admit their mistakes. For example, Newton's assumption that time is absolute corresponded to what was known in his time, but it disappeared as soon as Einstein presented the theory of relativity, and the experiments exactly matched Einstein's predictions. Or, for example, the steady state theory disappeared as soon as evidence was found, which is consistent with the big bang theory, but contradicts the steady state theory. If you have a better theory than the big bang theory, and you can make good predictions with it that will stand the test of experiment, but contradict the big bang theory, the whole world will be waiting for your answer.
By: Dr. David Issachari
Subject: To Thomas - keep up to date.
Since the thirteenth century we have found that:
1. All galaxies are moving away from each other, and at a speed that increases according to the distance from us.
and independently:
2. The universe is full of radio radiation of micro length (microwave in Traubman's language), which corresponds to a temperature of 2.7 Kelvin which corresponds to [1] and about 15 billion years.
and independently:
3. The helium-hydrogen ratios in the universe fit the assumption that there was a big bang and the energies calculated according to [1] and [2].
Now draw any conclusion you see from this, just be consistent.
Uncle .
