A brief investigation by scientists fighting causeless hysteria discovered a link between the Institute for Human Continuity website and the film's producers. Real scientific sites tell the truth, that this is nonsense that has no basis, while the fake ones warn of the end of the world
In an uninhibited marketing ploy, the creators of the 2012 sci-fi film fuel the panic surrounding the debunked claims that the end of the world will come ten days before the end of 2012.
"Never before has a date in history been important to so many cultures, religions, scientists and governments." Written on the film's website on behalf of the Israeli distributor, A.D. Matlon "2012 is an epic adventure film about a radical upheaval that brings the world to an end and recounts the heroic struggle of the survivors."
The viral marketing campaign includes the creation of fake scientific websites to encourage people to search for the keyword 2012 in search engines. While there are many sites like Universe Today (And like The science site of course), which provide solid and systematic evidence that the hysteria surrounding 2012 is complete nonsense, countless other sites are filled with articles written in vague, seemingly scientific jargon, and deliver a bogus statement that pretends to be scientific, according to which any astronomical event will cause the destruction of the earth.
Why do the stations do this? For the oldest reason, for money. Most of these sites are trying to sell books or DVDs.
The Knowledge website, in collaboration with Universe Today, published a series of articles on various aspects of the hysteria, which do not cost a penny to read. In addition, the website editors recommend reading In PDF created by Dr. David Morrison, an expert on the solar system and asteroid impacts () under the title "Judgment Day 2012, Planet Nibiru and Cosmophobia" which includes a summary of the arguments and answers containing solid scientific responses. Morrison also serves as the project's lead scientist.asked an astrobiologist” of NASA.
"2012 Hoax" website He also refers to all the arguments and tries to explain them, but we also found a reference to the movie. (Pay attention to the illustration of the website with the question "Is this the end?" and the answer - only in movies in many languages, including Hebrew).
"This is further proof that Hollywood chases unsubstantiated rumors (as it routinely does in all disaster movies), German producer and director Ronald Emmerich created a script based on doomsday rumors from 2012. The film will star John Kushack, Amanda Peet, Woody Harrelson Danny Glover and Oliver Felt.
There is a general consensus among critics that Amrish's film relies too much on visual effects and suffers from clichéd dialogues, and formulaic narratives; that it is completely inaccurate both scientifically and historically, that the development of the plot does not make sense and that the characters have no depth. Amrish himself states that he is a filmmaker and not a scientist. He probably believes that this will free him from any rebuke arising from the scandal around the year 2012.
Mistakes
It is very bad that a film relies on a social movement in its plot, and then it also accepts the mistakes of this movement. In one of the two trailers released so far, the film makes a series of big mistakes. At the beginning of the trailer he says that this is the "earliest human civilization" and then he crosses to the Mesoamerican pyramids, then he returns again in a flashback to the text "we were warned". This refers to what is known as the "Mayan prophecy".
As any trivia enthusiast knows, the cultures in Central and South America are not the earliest cultures. At this point, the description belongs to the culture that built the settlement at Katalk Huyuk, today in eastern Turkey. This settlement dates back to around 7500 BC, and had a population of at least 6,000 people and a developed culture.
The second point is that the Mayans did not "warn us". The Mayan literature and their scriptures are silent about the year 2012.
The film wants to capitalize on the craze of 2012, by using Google in the trailer. In the trailer of the film, the directors ask to search for the term 2012 in the search engines. Is the film's producers hoping to capture viewers by leveraging existing concerns in society. Of course, it is in their interest to build on these fears as much as possible before the film's release date.
The Institute for the Continuity of Humanity
Institute for Human Continuity (Institute for Human Continuity) is a body organized by the film company to carry out viral distribution to promote the film. So it turns out that Ronald Emmerich and the Sony Pictures company are not only trying to profit from the hysteria surrounding 2012, but are also actively contributing to it. The IHC posts ads that appear to be legitimate advertisements. The implication that they were created to promote the film isn't immediately obvious, and the IHC site appears to be a legitimate site at least at first glance.
The wisdom of using the existing hysteria about 2012 to promote the film must be questioned. It seems that Hamfikim and Habamai don't care if people are afraid, the main thing is that they sell tickets.
In conclusion: the movie 2012 is a fictional movie based on a real cultural stereotype (although not based on any facts). Unfortunately, Sony Pictures and Ronald Emmerich have chosen to market the film in a way that heightens the concerns.
For information on the website 2012hoax.org
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Well? Ron? still alive? What was the end of the world like?
Fuck all those who scare people and small children about 2012, which is just fucking nonsense with a stick in their ass, so yes!!!!!!!!
nonsense !
How many times have they said the world will be destroyed in the year 2000. So that experiment that was...
Pay attention to what is written in Vala about the film:
USA, (2009) – 143 minutes, English
Science fiction, action, suspense
I point out - science fiction!
Everyone is ending the calendar of these female directors, a new cycle will begin, what are you stressed about.. also these female bees
All the 2012 stuff is just fluff.
I'll go to the movies tomorrow and laugh all the way home about how people bite fingernails during and after the movie.
will be tearing
Rah,
All the "secrets" have come out, the choice whether to research, learn and deepen is yours.
Start with the disclosure project.
There are quite a number of venouns there.
Ron, what happened to Eisenhower in 1954?
You know what I find hard to believe? None of the information you present has been accepted by the establishment, no establishment. You treat the political scientific and media establishments as a monolithic organization that keeps a secret, as if it is the establishment. But we know every secret is bound to get out, these fields are full of people with egos who will eventually tell and no secret can really be kept.
See for example the Watergate, Irangate, the "affair" in the 50s and many other stories where the administration did everything it could to prevent publication but the secret got out.
In addition, when the Eastern Bloc fell, the archives were opened and all the secrets were spilled.
Another excellent example is Israel's nuclear ambiguity policy, which in the end someone comes and tortures and blows it to pieces and brings the general understanding that there are bombs.
So how is it possible that meetings with extraterrestrials are kept a secret for decades by dozens and maybe hundreds of governments that have changed, including in the coups where they killed the previous administration and brought all its secrets to light (see the Ceausescu case) and yet the aforementioned secret is kept? Does that make sense to you? Where and where are the aliens?
I think you all live in a movie and only Ron opened his eyes.
Slowly more people will open their eyes.
In 2012, many opportunities will come to Earth and whoever is ready and lives without fear outside the "Matrix" will be able to open to them.
I guess those who don't get it will just forever stay inside the artificial bubble.
As for a world government? Tactics of denial, corruption, and murder accompany all history, today it is simply smarter.
Most people just accept the version that censorship is for their benefit.
In most cases the fat sharks hold huge chunks at the expense of the population
Mostly by way of exploitation of man, animal and land.
Humans are servants whether consciously or not.
The day is not far when people will get tired of all this.
Look at what is happening in Israel (and all over the world): leaders whose authority we took for granted betrayed our trust
And today we receive BIGTIME in the head.
A rapist president, a thief, a thief treasurer, a corrupt police commissioner, shall I continue???
Nothing will go away without a fight but be sure that the day is not far when there will be no room for everyone
Corruption, theft, lies upon lies upon lies until it is no longer possible to trust anyone with power
Remember these words
Ethics will prevail over power
It happened in the past and will happen in the future
This is a well-known step in the process of cognitive development
Is there a chance that you will publish another article on the safety of the LHC, which is going to be restarted soon?
I heard a new theory that we live in a false vacuum and that the LHC, because it travels at the speed of light, can cause the universe to move to a true vacuum that will operate with less energy and therefore will not allow the existence of humans?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
The basic claim of all the safety rules that CERN says is that particle collisions like in the LHC happen constantly in the cosmic radiation. There are arguments that stand on their own why the LHC experiments will not activate a trigger that will cause the universe to go into a true vacuum or produce an unknown substance whose behavior is unpredictable?
When a physicist develops a theory that connects everything - or mathematics does this - of course the assumption is that this theory is scientific and therefore correct, Ron may be exaggerating and exaggerating, but such people do it out of sincere distress, they care, and although today it is mostly a negative trait, there were times when this was not the case was
So one should not unthinkingly dismiss theories that bring everything together. I think the main change in my view of the obvious I finally understood after a pathologist whom I trained in trauma told me that since Rabin's autopsy, everything he thought he understood has been shattered, since then I have examined the subject in depth, you can call it Conspiracy, etc. But Rabin was shot to death not in the square but in the vehicle that took him away...in short, what is seen is often not the truth!
For years and years the official versions - I received automatically
The material that does not receive the spotlight of the mainstream media - if it was in my mind but not long ago - who can automatically accept it?
Rah:
Go to part XNUMX of this article:
http://www.emetaheret.org.il/wiki/doku.php?id=disclosure_project_על_פרוייקט_חשיפה
In the clip about the commercial pilot and the French authorities - you will see that they did issue an official document declaring that the UFO phenomenon is problematic and must be organized against it.
Regarding why there is no Obama on prime time?
It already happened with Eisenhower in 1954 - but the whole issue is isolated
Part III demonstrates this well.
I accept your criticism of the broad scope of the "conspiracies" and being in neat focus
Mr. Blizovsky, why do you think it is important, what is the dirty trick that the film industry is pulling out of its sleeve this time to attract people with one or other inclinations?
Most of them believe everything they are told otherwise there are not enough people for that many to cite every possible conspiracy
just ignore.
Pan-social ignorance is already there and this does not increase it too much
Rah:
I see that you finally understood why Ron is being answered emphatically.
It does not belong to the claims but to the person with whom they are talking.
Since he automatically favors the conspiracy, no one has any motivation to delve into the mountains of garbage he sends out to find if there happens to be a grain of truth in them. Simple - there is a lot of reading material in which the chances of finding the truth are much higher and people prefer to read it.
I have already addressed this type of people in my response:
https://www.hayadan.org.il/wanting-to-believe-1710093/#comment-252781
Ron, there may be some truth in your words. But still the feeling that you believe in too many unrelated things from a pro-vaccine government conspiracy to the visits of extraterrestrials in ancient times through end times prophecies, assassinations of heads of state and many more stories along the way.
So again, it's hard to believe that everything is true and you automatically bring anti and disdain your claims. In my humble opinion you should focus on one or two issues, investigate it on its merits and then present convincing evidence (if you find it..) in the form of authentic documents for example and not just YouTube interviews that are obviously done with non-objective people on the subject. Remember that for each interview you can present 100 against it.
And a question: Why do these extraterrestrials of yours only meet with Weirdus on the shores of a remote lake? Why not with Obama in prime time on CNN once and for all?
I thought you thought so.
These were not my comments.
I have never hid and never used such tactics here.
It is possible that you inadvertently wronged the author of the response (who was intelligent) who admittedly criticized me and you as well.
to Ron The comments were deleted because it was the same commenter who argued with himself, and the science site is not the place for those with a split personality.
Oops ..
http://www.emetaheret.org.il/2009/09/29/הקונספירציה-הקפיטליסטית-סרט-בתרגום-ל/
Also - I think a good start to the investigation is the film
"The Capitalist Conspiracy", this is a very chronologically arranged and informative film.
(Translated into Hebrew)
http://www.emetaheret.org.il/2009/09/29/הקונספירציה-הקפיטליס Tit-
movie-in-translation-to/
And two more interesting short additions
Jordan Maxwell on The Dollar Bill
youtube.com/watch?v=VUpQl9SildY
Jordan Maxwell on the symbol of fascism - the Pasha - you will see where he was born with genius
Starts at minute 4:10
youtube.com/watch?v=Euk8LR9S5DA
Rah:
I accept your criticism - it is understandable.
But I don't automatically accept all the "conspiracies" I have read and seen many good sources of information - and in my eyes I have to be an ostrich to ignore it with a wave of my hand.
I will give you an example of a first class researcher named Jordan Maxwell, he has been studying the subject of conspiracies of all kinds for over forty years.
Last month he gave a comprehensive and long interview on the subject
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJKue2Ff6o
Why were the responses of "The Voice of Reason" and the commenter Avi - deleted?
From: "An important question".
You raised a question that shows in an enclave the real problem we are in.
The definition of an "ordinary person" as an innocent idiot who does not know right and left beyond what he learned in school and on television broadcasts. Such a person (who actually represents the majority of people) is a target for all those deceitful tricksters and charlatans who knew how to understand this.
The book Voodoo Science - The road from Foolishness to Fraud can also be useful
For an important question, just read the chapter "Mechanism for Detecting Nonsense" in Carl Sagan's book "A Haunted World" and you will know the difference.
There is no clear answer to this. The best thing is to try to be exposed to the source data of the studies and build an independent opinion, as the "voice of reason" beautifully said. Look at the movies, the pictures, read opinions here and there and then you have to form an opinion. Just like a judge has to decide what the truth is based on the arguments of two sides who are sure of their rightness.
What is not clear to me is that if you do not know what is true and what is not, then where does the statement that Ron's words are a collection of gibberish and nonsense come from?
As mentioned, I found responses 67 and 69 that call to check and consider the data before expressing a firm opinion as most of the people here do automatically based on the title alone.
Ron, one thing I don't like about your attitude is that you seem to automatically believe in all the strange things - UFOs, ancient technologies, prophecies coming true, conspiracies of the governments of all times even those that arose after the collapse of the previous regime like in the Soviet Union are still hiding the truth according to you, scientists who do not They find out that they developed a vaccine or those that caused epidemics and more (at least according to the site you referred to - the other truth). Is everything really true? Why do we all live in the matrix and know nothing and only you know? Maybe you are actually living in a movie?
A general question for everyone, how is an ordinary person supposed to know how to separate scientific truth from a collection of pseudo-scientific gibberish and nonsense of the type Sharon brought up here in his comments? Ron's films contain seemingly strong evidence backed by senior scientists (so it is said) who claim so and so and so.... How can or should the common man who is not knowledgeable in the scientific field know that things are not true? What is the best way to filter things of this kind and to know how to separate True and false?
I will be happy to answer.
As usual - a fruitless discussion and not really important - the discussion maybe just maybe the more important thing is actually why my father chose to deal with the subject at all and more from the direction of the kind "feeling of yellowness" such Hollywood and its shticks are quite well-known quite well-known and of course viral marketing for a film or an idea is not new - and sure, sure It doesn't have to be a matter of identifying a subject that you think needs to be corrected - and it's fine in your opinion that this direction of 2012 is nonsense, it doesn't really matter and if you wanted to talk about the strange awakening of many groups in the run-up to the date in a journalistic way, then it's clear to you and me and to everyone that you just wanted to take a stand! !And you didn't reason "something"...as they say
good day everybody
I hope this is a self-fulfilling prophecy and as a result all believers will be gathered in 2012.
Ron,
A gullible will believe anything, did we already say?
Nahum:
Your criticism of Ron is justified but the prophecy you are basing it on is no better than his.
Both are "prophecies" and therefore both baseless nonsense.
Santa Claus:
I really screwed up when I didn't realize you were Hogin right away when I read the first word ball.
Ron:
This.
I don't argue with someone who has oral diarrhea and constipation.
Read
There is a spaceship and a plane and a tank/submarine
The researcher denies this because he starts from the assumption that it cannot be.
Where is the objective investigation?
Ron, read comment 56.
More on the 2012 issue.
I didn't say for a moment that this is the end of the world. Let's make this clear.
But this is a cataclysmic event - the governments are preparing - and it doesn't seem that way for our sake.
And the location of Star X is censored. Watch this short clip
Nice work by an intelligent guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKn_2neBSyo
The astronauts (the bravest of them) talk about UFOs and aliens and the government cover-up
Buzz Aldrin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfvhdmhQy4
Edgar Mitchell
youtube.com/watch?v=8QKW6Gt3KKs
Gordon Cooper
youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc
Live reporting – Jim Lovell and James McDebitt
youtube.com/watch?v=L2SraW-blCs
Not only in the US
Russian cosmonauts - UFOs and the government cover-up
Pavel Popovich
youtube.com/watch?v=G3Rbap8Zm3Y
Victor Afenseev
youtube.com/watch?v=N0S4M_aFYCM
Let's try to be factual
Michael:
You found a way to mentally postpone the issue.
It disrespects you.
You don't want to deal with the material - don't deal with it.
The explanation for the supposed paintings of airplanes and helicopters in caves that are thousands of years old is simple, first of all the pictures shown in your films are not pictures of the original paintings but pictures that have been graphically manipulated to give them a more convincing tone.... Note that in the film the carvings look as if they were made on metal while the original carving was made on stone... these are two texts, one newer and one older that were written on top of each other and the mixture between them created an image that with a great deal of resemblance can be seen as tools similar to similar aircraft Nowadays, here is a better explanation of things -
http://members.tripod.com/~A_U_R_A/abydos.html
And thanks to the website Hedman Shemesh, a platform for scientific knowledge, superstitions related to scientific issues, and debates between the believers of the various superstitions. The more I read (and respond to) articles, the more I enjoy it.
The end of the world will come with the end of the sixth millennium of the Hebrew calendar, which is 2240 AD, and not a minute before. I am also prepared to insert a clause in my will according to which my heirs will transfer to Ron's heirs a sum of money that we both agree on, linked to the Consumer Price Index in Israel and with the addition of the basic interest rate set every month by the Bank of Israel until then, if the world continues to exist after A. Tishret five thousand "A, if he agrees to transfer me the same amount under the same linkage and interest conditions if the world continues to exist after the first of January 2013.
Ron Ron Ron. What will?!
If you're trying to convince someone of your belief, the most basic thing is to make us think you believe it too.
how? Do not know…. Ok, some thought….Accept the challenges presented to you!
But you're not... your credibility has decreased a bit in my opinion... (not that it was before, I must confess)
Conclusions:
or that:
You are mentally ill (schizophrenia?). Go to therapy, maybe it will help.
or that:
You are a poor and wretched person, with a very poor moral standard whose whole purpose is to bully other people.
or that:
You are promoting the film in question. In any case, you meet the definitions I mentioned above.
So in any case, no matter which of the definitions you answer to, do yourself a favor and don't bother us anymore. This is a scientific site. Go spread your nonsense on conspiracy sites.
Bottom line: Ron=Troll
See, even Pinocchio, who was a log and tried to imitate public affairs like a monkey after a human, encountered his many adventures in a demon-haunted world and had to go through all the tests and experiences until he received the rest of his spirit from his patron and became a human-human. He too could not receive his true freedom before , who internalized the modes of traits and virtues under the yoke of the laws and strings that pull on him and educate him in order to reach some kind of intelligent achievement and to be entitled to the opposite to a "human person": freedom, accompanied by responsibility.
So are the parts of the majority of humanity in general, who reach their breaking point and the process is inherently challenged by imaginary and/or real fears as well.
In any case, the "elephant" is not here yet, not even 2012, only the fascinating drama and many blind spots around it.
2012 the end of the world. Check
How unsurprising how ridiculous and mostly fed up.
Whenever there is a subject full of conspiracies in the background there will be those who will only talk and talk and talk.
People will ask them questions (note that Ron is a question with a "?" A story about banana fish).
But no, apparently there is a really deep lack of understanding, and I really don't know what can help bridge the problem.
So Ron, in case you didn't understand:
It is illogical and unrealistic to demand all the demands you demand here without answering any request from the other commenters, it borders on a boring monologue and mostly eye trouble.
You cause me more and more to distance myself and shrug off (maybe a little chuckle) everything related to your comments just because of the lack of credibility and non-cooperation in the discussion.
Santa Claus:
A story about Grandpa Geppetto, who was a childless carpenter...
Actually - why should I tell you the whole story? Just because you decided to tell me what to do? Buy the book and read it yourself!
Ron! I see some good people here making almost desperate attempts to challenge you on the subject, but you completely ignore, why?? If you are so sure of yourself why don't you say clearly that you agree to the challenge? what scares you Why are you unable to give a clear answer "Yes I am ready for the challenge!" Why is it so hard for you?
Because maybe you are actually not so sure of the nonsense you are writing here?
from perception management,
"An ancient Sufi story tells of three blind men who encountered an elephant on their way, and each of them tries to describe it. One, who touched the elephant's leg, describes it as large and firm as the trunk of a tree in Genesis; the second, who touched the ear, describes it as wide and rough as a large carpet; the third divides Regarding the descriptions of his two companions, he felt the stem and says that the correct description is a long and hollow pipe, full of wrinkles, with a terrible destructive power.
From the side passed a guarded Jew who, by chance, on the same day the 'elephant' whose name appeared before him, at the end of 2012, rushed to put his son under the yoke of the Torah covenant and saw no elephant but only 3 blind people groping, guessing and arguing: It didn't happen", it will happen or it won't happen and it's over and over, of course it's impossible for them to see him pass away to his practical matters until the very end, in the peace of the world;)
I guess readers don't need to be reminded that Ron has yet to pick up a single glove thrown at him.
Elad - It's not just that they say they saw
There is communication with them and receiving/taking technologies
http://www.emetaheret.org.il/wiki/doku.php?id=disclosure_project_על_פרוייקט_חשיפה
Look at the testimony of the military man from the UFO collection unit
Regarding the leaks - there are leaks, what do you think these evidences are?
Even one video managed to sneak out called "Alien Interview"
which has never been disproved. Search on YouTube
I am surprised by the resistance - to tell the truth
We should be happy about the exposure
Comment 2, do me a favor, what are you 10 years old?
And the one who said that they did not prove that the world will not be destroyed in 2012:
At least from what I understood from the article, the film claims things that are contrary to scientific facts, proven facts.
To all those who criticize the film:
What is the problem? Brilliant marketing exercise, kudos to whoever planned it. And for response 2, to send a letter from a so-called child (I conclude that it is a child because an adult person cannot be that stupid, at least not a person who surfs science websites (so-called)) who wants to commit suicide because of this? Come on, you have something to learn from the marketers of this movie.
And really people, relax, you dug a lot more than you usually do.
Take a deep breath and be quiet!!!!!
Elad:
You're right
At least on the normative moral level
But agree with me that you wouldn't educate your children that if there are huge arms industries then let's go down to sell knives..
And people do nothing because people don't really believe that they have any influence on the Day of Judgment
Hotzmaza, it seems that everyone has already raised their hands and realized that we are surrounded by a shit company and someone needs to turn off the water
Ron:
And I ask you innocently:
Have you stopped hitting your mother yet?
In your question there is an attempt to get me to "admit" unwittingly the correctness of certain assumptions that are found
in her background.
It doesn't bother me that there are extraterrestrials because I don't know if there are extraterrestrials.
It doesn't bother me that the administration is hiding it because I don't know that the administration is hiding it.
It doesn't bother me that I didn't know something that I don't know is true. I would be more bothered if I "knew" that the administration was hiding something when it is not hiding anything.
What clearly bothers me is you.
You continue to pester me with idle talk and you do not respond to challenges intended to allow you to prove that you even believe what you say.
The only conclusion that can be drawn from this situation is that you do not believe in what you are saying and another conclusion derived from this is that really, as I said, your words were not intended except for the purpose of harassment.
Ron:
There may be aliens, but…
In order to release the most important news in the history of mankind, for the President of the United States to stand on top of a stage and announce that we are not alone, is it important that we be XNUMX percent sure? No?
And that's why this business needs to be scientifically tested. And scientifically, there is no unequivocal evidence for the existence of aliens.
And it doesn't matter how many personal testimonies there are. That's how science works, that's how (no...?) we got to the moon.
And about conspiracies, tell me something. You were in the army or had friends there. You know how government bodies work. in total inefficiency. Everything has to go through the RLS of the assistant's secretary who takes two hundred copies of everything and loses sixty of them.
I don't see a situation where such a big secret, involving tens of thousands of people for fifty years, will be kept. Someone serious would have already spoken. Pictures were leaked. What general would tell his mistress. You can't keep such a huge thing a secret...
And remind you, these are the same people who made huge mistakes like leading the United States into Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs and Iraq.
They fail to organize a revolution against the communists in some third world country, but they wage war against an advanced culture millions of years ahead of us in space, and with success, and no one outside the immediate circle notices?
Yes, but Michael
I'm not asking you to believe me.
Testimonies of over 400 people from the American Industrial Complex not enough for you on the subject of aliens?
The subject of the governments' preparations, look at what operations they are doing underground in secrecy, doesn't this raise questions for you?
Honestly and innocently I ask -
What makes you most uncomfortable (also possible hypothetically)
1. That there are extraterrestrials
2. That the government hides it
3. That you didn't know
ravine:
You make the classic argument of the New Agers, which says that there is no evidence that contradicts their theory, or that the evidence for and against is equal.
It doesn't work like that! If you think the world will end in 2012, then the burden of proof is on you.
I don't have to prove you wrong but you have to prove you right.
If there is no proof that the world will not end in 2012, it does not mean that it will end this year!!!
Based on everything we know, nothing apocalyptic will happen this year. It is true that there is always a chance that something else will happen, but the chance that it will happen tomorrow is just as likely. why not tomorrow Why not on Tuesday in two weeks?
If we work with your method, then in my opinion the world will turn into a banana in 2034, and to prevent this, huge budgets need to be invested in anti-banana systems. According to what you claim, the burden of proof is on everyone else except me. According to the above method, now scientists all over the world need to get together and find evidence that contradicts what I say. Fortunately, it doesn't work like that, yet...
And above all, if you seriously claim that this date marks the end of the world, so that you prepare. I would start living life, go abroad and look for sex, drugs and rock and roll. In the end, what does it matter? We'll all be dead in two years.
Don:
Don't worry, there are enough people who will sell airtight shelters, poison gas pills and other vegetables and get rich off of this nonsense. If I start putting out flyers saying the end of the world is coming and everyone should buy my survival kit is that better than getting involved with someone?
Why promoting this panic to publicize this film is better than showing that even the biggest believers in this thing are not really willing to do what it takes to survive according to their description???
ravine:
See what you've achieved!
We took your advice before you even posted it!
We didn't just laugh - we laughed for excellent reasons!
Ron:
The one who avoids (in any discussion) is you.
If you do not respond to challenges, you are not serious.
This is simply a sign that even you do not believe what you are saying and your whole purpose is to confuse others.
And stop dodging - look at the material I brought.
Michael, I see that you have moved to Schopenhauer's Phase B
You're fast
There is also no unequivocal proof that there are no vampires and that there is no Loch Ness and that there are no 70 virgins in heaven, there is no proof against Eloise being alive and in my opinion the existence of forest elves and winged fairies has not been ruled out unequivocally..
And on the other hand, the fact that something has not been proven does not make its existence particularly logical.
Don't just laugh people because once you may have been on the side of the people who claimed with all vehemence that it is ridiculous to claim that the world is round! You may very well be doing the same thing today.
After all - there is no proof in favor of 2012 - but on the other hand there is also no proof against.
A few words and arguments for Rick.
Finally a claim that can be unequivocally tested. "In 2012 the end of the world will come." So why talk so much? Wait three years and yes yes no no.
What is clear is that all the "believers" in the end of the world should not interfere because if the end does not come they will pay big and if it does come there will be no one to pay them so it is better to take the skeptical side.
The year 1000 (one thousand) was equally important.
Even then there were apocalyptic "prophecies" just like today.
Only the year 1000 belongs to the dark ages
And so we look back with a smile and not a smirk.
On the other hand, the year 2012 belongs to those medieval times,
which prevail only in the dark minds of a part (albeit a large) of the people on earth. (It is possible to go back in time by any means, right????
A dark mind today, my life in the Middle Ages. What not?
The truth is that there is a completely different forecast that is not related to any mystical crap from the past, these are just statistics, and it says that around 2012-13 the US government will reach such high debts to the central bank and will probably enter a state of bankruptcy.
How would such a thing affect the world? Who is the successor of the USA?? China?? And maybe Arab countries want control??
And anyone who bet with Ron about whether his family and everyone he knows will die or not is just sick!!!
And by the way - Ron:
At what stage is the correct claim saying that what Schopenauer said according to your response 21 is gibberish?
For example - I claim that right now the sun is shining in Israel. I hope you don't think this is a conspiracy. Will this truth also go through all the stages you described?
If not - then Schopenau's claim that talks about "all truths" is wrong because we have found at least one truth about it that does not exist.
If Schopenauer's claim is wrong, then what is said in the current response is true.
If what is said in the current response is true - will everyone deny it?
Ron:
Why do you avoid every challenge that is presented to you?
How do you expect us to believe you if you yourself do not believe in what you say to the extent that you will allow you to lift the gauntlet (this refers both to the challenges that have been set for you in this link and to those that you have ignored in other links)?
And in relation to the "theory of stages" that you presented: what are the stages that a lie goes through? How long does each step really take and how long does it take? What stage are we at, eg JFK? At what stage is the claim that they did not land on the moon? At what stage is Rabin's murder? What stage are the aliens in? At what stage is the slaughter of Christians by Jews to use their blood to bake matzoh?
Michael:
You are XNUMX% right, it really makes more sense to do it this way, even if the world ends or not.
Thanks for the update.
Ron:
I didn't get an answer from you, are you going for it?
point:
I think it's a disaster that they're mixing it up, but because unfortunately we won't be able to convince anyone,
………………………………Let’s try to make money out of it!!!…………………….
What's sad is that the day after the deadline, except for the "nothing happened" title of the site, nothing will change, and all the crazy people will start believing that the world will end at the end of the calendar of some other mysterious culture they find. So at least one of them will pay me for it.
In complete contrast to me, kudos to the scientist site and to my father, who for whatever reason has not yet finally given up on the ignorance and stupidity on the planet. May God grant that in the end you will really succeed in knocking down these windmills.
And to John Cusack, you used to be a good actor, what did you lose in this movie?!?!
I think it's actually healthy and good for science to mix up this 2012 thing.
Regarding LCROSS
If anything is realistic, it's this picture of her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG5ECXEAVlw
This only reinforces Richard Hoagland's observations
Glass Dome on Moon. Richard C Hoagland
youtube.com/watch?v=x0StZZqrGCg
It didn't look suspicious, the infrared cameras pick up heat so that was the chance to see something.
And I can't understand a cover up about what? I can't understand the paranoia against official versions. As you can see, in science not everything works out the way you want, is this a reason to say that NASA always lies? She didn't lie, in any case no chunk would have been blown off the moon that would have made it look missing, the only question was how deep the crater would be and how much dust would be blown, they Err a little down, as sometimes you err up. There is a difference of several orders of magnitude.
You did not claim about a hole in the moon, the site you are active on - another truth, claim so.
The unkind someone talked about the ruling powers - and repeated the lie 1000 times.
He is right.
I never claimed a hole in the moon - I claim it's a cover up
Isn't it strange to you that they almost didn't see the plume of dust?
And that the camera switched from visual to infrared as soon as we could see anything?
Ron, doesn't this remind you of someone really nasty who said that if you repeat a lie a thousand times it becomes the truth?
And besides, after your site took a terrible blow after their front in the LCROSS operation was blown from the moon by a serious lump and here is no lump and no shoes, and they barely saw the plume of dust, you are the one who owes an apology.
All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
Welcome to step one thousand
To Ami, we will check why I didn't receive your offers as far as you know, just to be safe, send them by email.
To Elad, I don't know yet what the title of the site will be, it will be said on Tuesday in a week, but you can probably guess what the title of the site will be on December 22, 2012.
"nothing happened"
To Avi Blizovsky: Regardless of the above article, the corner you knew, a lovely corner of its own, repeats itself over and over again. There is room to refresh the concepts. By the way, my attempt to add to the corner did not work, please allow it.
Ron:
Give a date for which you are ready to accept both my challenge and Elad's renovated challenge.
We are flexible.
Elad:
In principle you are of course right, but your proposal is problematic precisely because of what you said to Ron: "Because I really won't have the strength to find a way to get rid of a lot of emergency equipment and sell it to someone else who still believes in this nonsense."
If you intervene with him - you will have to purchase emergency equipment in the quantities you are talking about, store it with the same third party (and storage volume does not come for free) and then sell it in 2013 to people who stopped believing in this nonsense.
In other words - even if you win - you will lose money.
It would be worthwhile, therefore, for you to update your offer so that it pays off (for example by doing this Sharon will have to put double).
It can be argued that Ron shouldn't be excited about the doubling of the amount because according to his delusion - anyway he won't have to pay it, but that's not true either.
In fact, even from Ron's point of view, it would not be correct to commit to such a payment (or actually any payment) because such a commitment would require him to deposit money with a third party even before 2013, while logic requires him to try to spend all the money in order to have as much fun as possible until then.
The correct intervention correction must probably be defined without sums:
You will commit to Ron that starting in 2013, if the end of the world does come, all your property will be transferred to him (even if you are among the survivors!).
He will commit to you that if the end of the world does not come by 2013, all his property will be transferred to you.
so that's it.
I allowed Ron to enjoy for a moment the thought that he might be able to escape the challenge but that moment has already passed.
Avi:
So why the secrecy? All in all a shelter
And in general the sources tell us that there is nothing to do with the Cold War
A fine documentary of the historical channel
UFO Hunters – Underground Bases – Dulce 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRLWJPiQzqI
Michael:
According to what I read, it's not exactly 2012 - it's more like 2013.
Did you go over what I brought?
How can your use of the word "nonsense" be taken as a parameter?
Ron let me reassure you, only those who truly believe in the flying spaghetti monster will be forgiven in 2012.
And seriously:
Anyone who is interested in knowing (emphasis on the word know) about storing seeds is invited to hear a lecture from a place that is a little more reliable and qualified than all kinds of quacks on YouTube:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_drori_why_we_re_storing_billions_of_seeds.html
In general, it is not clear how far people are willing to go with these invented theories. "2012 is related to paintings of a spaceship in the pyramids in Egypt in a spiritual connection to the Mayan culture and we will all be extinct in XNUMX".
It's amazing how much the Internet is the miracle of the new century.
Ron:
I have been looking for some time for someone who would be willing to bet with me on the end of the world in 2012.
Are you sure you're right, okay, what amount are you putting?
We both put the same amount of money in the suitcase, lock it with a third party and the day after the end of the world the winner takes it all.
And if you tell me that there will be nothing to do with money after the apocalypse, I am ready that instead of money I will bet with you on food, batteries, bullets for guns or anything else you need for survival.
Just do me a favor, put your part in NIS because I really won't have the strength to find a way to get rid of a lot of emergency equipment and sell it to someone else who still believes in this nonsense.
In short, you have nothing to lose!!!!, money will be worth nothing after the deadline, even the money you put there, so you win anyway.
I'm totally serious. So if you want talk to me and we'll see how to do it.
I am ready to put in front of you any amount you want (up to the limit that I can raise, which must be in the area of two hundred / three hundred thousand shekels...).
Success for all of us.
Ron:
Are you ready to commit here and now that on the first day of 2013 you will send a comment to this site in which you admit that you spoke nonsense?
Are you also willing to commit that you will send at least seven such responses (since you have only responded to the current article seven times with nonsense)?
The arguments are given in articles dealing specifically with each argument - see links at the end of the article. Here it was important to warn that there are those who mix up the hysteria, just to promote a stupid movie.
Ron, you don't need threats from space for countries to spend money on underground cities that no one maintains and that are worth nothing. The threat from the Soviet Union or the USA (depending on which side you fell on) was enough in the Cold War...
We don't know our history and the abilities we had in the past
ancient technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHe211mLV0
Fascinating lecture
There is no way an ancient culture could predict…
"I did not understand anything" :
Explain it to me
Hieroglyphs from ancient Egypt that show an image of a spaceship, helicopter, tank and more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxllptqVSYk
1984, 2000, 2012….
Every 12-16 years there is a new date and ecstatic fans who have no life.
1. Ron, you are living in a movie, get over it, I heard similar arguments both towards the year 2000 and years before, it makes no sense that an ancient culture that lived here hundreds or thousands of years ago could accurately predict a certain year in which the world would be destroyed, it is simply refuted.
2. I didn't understand anything from this confused article, instead of giving an orderly list of the main arguments (the ones given in the movie, which supposedly prove that the end of the world will come in 2012) and the refutation for each argument, here is a very confused article with vague explanations from which almost nothing can be understood .
Of course I could go and check the external links given here, and I will do so again when I have time, but after all I am reading here, on the science site, and it is a shame that what is written here cannot be understood too much.
And in conclusion
Preparation for a military council
We are already getting tastings
Looks like something out of a sci-fi movie (Pittsburgh 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVKm8NqonqA
A bank of over 200000 plant seeds in an underground bunker in the far north of Norway...
http://www.zimbio.com/Svalbard+Global+Seed+Vault/articles/51/Doomsday+Seed+Vault
The topic is grossly censored from the mainstream media (an article about the Dutch government's preparations)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OldrSyHF-34
Another example of building secret underground cities, with a more detailed explanation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWpX4bBbk3g
Everything is fine.
So for what event have the governments been preparing with great vigor for 40 years in great secrecy?
Examples:
Building secret underground cities
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcmSas86QBs
The method to download this tricky website is amazing in its simplicity. First you have to write a fabricated email on the contact page, with the claim that "there's no point in waiting for 2012... After reading your website it's clear to me that everything is lost... I haven't slept for two days... My parents don't believe me... I feel that there is no point in my life and I've decided to end it With everything tomorrow."
Then the letter that was "leaked" to the media should be published and their mother-mother should be sued in a class action.
I am amazed every time I hear about this senseless nonsense of 2012. It is unbelievable how much it seeps into the public consciousness. Pure stupidity as a matter of course.