66% of Christians: Protestants and Catholics, whites and blacks - believe that angels protect them, only 10% of Jews think so * The study was conducted on behalf of a Baptist university in Texas, and its editors rounded data in order to reduce the power of atheists in the USA

Over half of the adults in the USA believe that a guardian angel protects them. This is according to a national survey conducted in the USA. It's not just religious people, one in five people who said they were irreligious said they believed they were saved from trouble at one point or another in their lives thanks to the protection of an angel. "I didn't expect such a high number," said sociologist Christopher Bader of Baylor University in Waco, Texas, who reported on the National Survey on Religion. However, the survey is most likely biased since it is a Baptist university.
However, for the benefit of website surfers, we will present the main results. The survey examined the religious beliefs and practices of Americans based on interviews conducted with nearly 1,700 adults in the summer of 2007. It informs the Baylor inventors of 2006 about the believers' affiliation with a church, mosque or synagogue and their view of God by adding questions about their gender and their political views , the environment and beliefs about evil. Members of almost every major religious group in the US have said they have felt angels asking the heavens to intervene on their behalf.
- Evangelical Protestants: 66%
- Black Protestants: 81%
- Mainline Protestants: 55%
- Catholics: 57%
- Jews 10%
- Members of other religions 49%
- non-religious 20%
But just as people differ in their view of God, they also interpret the guardian angel or the voice of God differently, said Kenneth Pargament, a professor of psychology at Ohio State University who has written articles on spiritualism and the soul. When people think of protection, they don't necessarily think of an angel with wings, at least not as often as they think of loved ones who have passed away watching over them," Fragment told the Chicago Sun-Times.
In a press release published by the researchers on the Baylor University website, they write that the religions in America are stable in a way that is noteworthy and even surprising considering the variety of beliefs, religious practices and other options (including secularism). According to them, this is one of the most sensitive studies ever conducted on religious issues in America.
This is a follow-up study to a survey published in 2005 which revealed that most Americans believe in God or a higher power. The new report published in the book "What Americans Really Believe" by Dr. Rodney Stark presents the main issues on the agenda of religious people in America
- The transition of many believers to mega-churches
- The scattered churches versus the uniting churches
- The opinion about God, the angels and the devil
- Atheism and irreligion
- Religious and paranormal beliefs and experiences
"Our mission in the Baylor religion survey was to ask more in-depth questions than the other surveys," said Dr. Bader, professor of sociology at Baylor and one of the authors of the study. "Many surveys ask about the frequency of prayer, few of them ask what or to whom you pray. Many polls ask if you believe in God, but not who is God? Is God angry, is he critical, is he forgiving, is he involved in what is happening in the world? We were able to get people to describe to us the profile of God, so that we could know not only whether the person believes in God, which almost any survey will tell you, but what they think about God, what God is to them and how this affects other parts of their daily lives. The idea was to take every question that is asked in surveys about the degree of religiosity of people and extract from them several levels of intelligence."
The pollsters analyzed the responses to questions about religious beliefs and practices in America and focused on the following aspects: devotion to religion, religion and science, race and ethnicity, family and relationships. In addition, the survey editors asked questions about many other topics such as mystical experiences, moral issues and the perception of God.
According to the authors of the study, over the past 63 years, several surveys have shown that the rate of atheists has not changed at all, and according to them, it remains stable at 4% of Americans (an example of playing with numbers, as you will see below, the correct figure is 11%), those who answer that they do not believe in God. The authors of the survey claim that not only is the rate of atheism not increasing in the US, most Europeans are also not atheists. Russia claims that 96% of its population believe in God and a survey conducted not long ago in China showed that atheists are numerically inferior to those who believe in God or gods.
In the two surveys conducted by Baylor University, the one of 2005 and the one of 2007, it was found that 11 percent of the respondents in the nationwide sample reported that they had no religion. Although according to the researchers only a third of them are atheists who rejected everything that lies beyond the physical world. However, the rest expressed some belief in religion and even those who claimed no religion or not belonging to the church are not atheists but simply do not go to church. Of the non-members in churches, about a third pray, about a third believe in Satan, hell and demons, and about half believe in angels and ghosts.
The research company Harris Interactive conducted a similar study in 2003 and reached the following conclusions:
- 42% of adults (but only 37% of men) believe God is male, but only 1% believe she is female. The rest believe that God is neither male nor female (38%) or both.
- Only 9% believe that God resembles a man with a face, body, arms, legs and eyes. Almost half think of God as a spirit or higher power that may take human form, while 27% believe that God is a spirit or higher power that cannot take human form.
- 29% of the public believe that God controls what happens on earth. 50% believe that God watches and does not control the events on earth, and 6% believes that God neither watches nor controls earthly events.
- 53% believe that the Jews, Christians, Muslims all worship the same god, but 32% believe that the believers of the religions also turn to different gods.
- Another body that investigates the phenomenon from time to time is BARNA, which according to its website also appears to be a religiously oriented body, but apparently honest.
- 85% of Americans define themselves as Christians.
- 7% of graduates classify themselves as evangelicals (converts).
- 38% of US adults define themselves as born-again Christians but not evangelicals.
- 37% define themselves as Christians but not evangelicals and not born again.
- Atheists and agnostics make up 12% of the US adult population
- 11% of the US population identifies with a non-Christian faith.
And this is what the tracker Sheika Levy once said (in his role as an angel in a skit about Sara Amno) "I had a woman who was once an angel and now looks like a solar eclipse."
And another important question, is the numerical inferiority of the atheists (which is not certain due to the fear of many people to identify as atheists in areas such as the Tanakh belt) stems from the inferiority of their position, or from the organizational power of the believers. It is worth noting that in one of the television programs, I think it was the CNN network, there was talk of a high proportion of atheists, approaching the order of magnitude of the Jews and Catholics, but despite this their influence on public opinion and decision makers is small because they are not organized. By the way, nevertheless, an interesting figure from Harris' research - 70% do not believe that God controls what is happening in the world (whether he does not exist, or even if he does exist, he has lost contact with us). This is probably an allusion to more atheists than those who openly declare it.
How many are really atheists?
English Wikipedia cites a study published in December 2006 in the Financial Times that compared the US with five European countries. The study found that Americans are more likely than Europeans to report belief in some form of God or higher beings (73%). Among Europeans, Italians are the most likely to express such belief (62%), and the French - the least (27%). In France, 32% defined themselves as atheists And another 32% defined themselves as agnostic. An EU survey provided comprehensive data: 18% of the EU population does not believe in God. 27% accept the existence of some supernatural being, "spiritual life force", while 52% expressed support for God's existence. Specifically, the rate of believers rises to 65% among those who left school at the age of 15. Those who came from families with a strict upbringing were more likely to believe in God than those in whose house less strict rules prevailed.
So technically the evangelical reviewers are right, most Europeans still believe in God (except for France), but the rates of belief in God are much smaller compared to the US. And besides, since when does the majority rule?
96 תגובות
Interestingly, after the massive assimilation, Jews remained in the "Trouble of the Covenant".
If so, they will immediately immigrate to Israel because the "Trouble of the Covenant" has begun to gallop down the path to destruction.
* Easy correction - what I heard = what I heard
To Michael (and Gil):
Do you know why monks have no children and no family?
Because the church takes care of its assets, therefore - if the monk who arrives has property/money then when the monk dies - everything will go to the church (and not to heirs who are his descendants)
*I did not invent this, I am writing here briefly what you once heard from Prof. Har Segor
To the owner of the long name:
As soon as you say examine things with a critical eye you are actually saying not to be religious.
Religion is based on faith without criticism and this is the way it allows the "religious sages" to control the masses and use them for their own benefit.
This is not at all surprising because religion was used for exactly that purpose.
The fact that there are also moral things in it does not mean anything.
You know these are moral things because you didn't need religion to know they were moral in the first place.
Nonit - Religion gives legitimacy to very wrong things, and is mainly problematic due to the severe dogmatism of the fanatics who defend it, but this is true for opinions in general that are defended by fanatics who are not ready to hear anything (whether it is a religion or a national movement or a political or social idea or idea that they will fiercely defend )
I am not religious but respect the place of religion in imparting positive values to the common people
and thinks that it has an interesting value when it is pursued with a limited guarantee, is done with a critical eye, is not based on the monopoly taken over by all the "religious sages" who do not allow anyone to do good for themselves with it but control its details
Religion is another sick way to legitimize the beastly behavior of men
Murder, rape, abuse, wars
And it has the side that masks it and gives hope to people.
Jesus, I wasn't talking about blocking you, I was talking about the difference between us and your friends. They would block me and not even allow the first publication of the opinion.
Isaiah,
The good religion:
the spanish inquisition,
the burning of the witches (including girls and boys),
The command to remember the memory of Amalek (including women, old men and children),
human sacrifice
and many other injustices.
As for injustices on behalf of science, you are confused about the meaning of the term 'science'. It is not a matter of religion or faith, but simply a method designed to understand and decipher the subtleties of the material world. The results of this understanding can be used by unscrupulous people to wreak havoc, but people choose what to use. All the injustices you mentioned stem from the creation of the tools people chose to use. There is no point in blaming science for the way people use its fruits, just as Don't blame the first person who discovered how to forge metals, just because people used the discovery to kill each other with swords.
Regarding your first comment, it seems that you have already decided and determined what is true and what is not. I have no doubt that some of the things we write here will look ridiculous in a hundred years. So what? This is the scientific method - little by little we reveal more and more of the truth in the universe. Your religion, on the other hand, predetermines the outcome and uses every excuse and proof to preserve it, even against the evidence of reality.
I thank you for the prayer you will pray for us. I will also think of you while I fast on this current Yom Kippur, and I hope that one day you will be able to understand the point of view of the other side, and the logic on which it is based.
Well?
Is it new to us that there are also quack doctors?
http://sciencevsreligion.net/
Isaiah the servant of God
Whoever calls himself that and shows such great knowledge of Christianity and his way of Christian missionary, such as giving the other cheek as you do
His scent wafts far away as belonging to these delusional sects
Everyone who writes here on the site is not a robot, these are people with an excellent sense of smell
It is immediately recognized by the smell of the water in question
So even if you cover yourself with a hundred covers and spread half a ton of aftershave, it will not help to obscure the source of the smell
Lesvardmish Yehuda. Easy fast and wish a good sign. I forgive you for your contempt and even your disrespect for freedom of expression. It's hard to deal with an enlightened religious person, isn't it? I hope God will forgive you for heresy. And to Mr. Blizovsky - there is no need to block me. I'm not going to write here anymore.
process
Don't think that we atheists don't take stock on Yom Kippur, we do, we do, but unlike you slaves, we do it between meals.
Besides, tell me your God that you are his slave, taking stock? My dear, he has to!
Two thousand years slaughter us and at the end ends with an encore of six million.
Mr. Slave, get out of it, he is not worth having you as his slave!.
My father, after our conversation yesterday, you will be less polite. I suggest you let him comment one more time, and block him.
Fasting is easy for everyone
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Screaming:
I will not repeat for you what I have said here many times.
Religion brings nothing but suffering, separatism, ignorance and wars to humanity.
The formal religions are not the only religions.
Whenever a person acts according to superstitions (such as Nazism, the various religions, Marxism, etc.) and decides without any justification that it is true that it is permissible to kill and die for their sanctification, exactly the same disasters occur.
Science allows us to accumulate real knowledge about reality.
The fact that there are religious people (in formal or other religions) who misuse the fruits of science should not be attributed to the duty of science but to the duty of those people and their religions.
as mentioned. I have already elaborated on the subject much more on the pages of this website and you are welcome to wander and learn.
Your preaching of morality is but a natural part of the immorality that religion causes people.
Higgs - I am not a Christian, mercifully. I don't know what I wrote that made you think that. I am Jewish and have no faith in the Christian Jesus. Whoever is able to believe that he is eating at the mass ceremony the blood and flesh of the "Son of God" who rose to life after his crucifixion - let him be perfumed. I want to believe that Judaism is very far from this idolatry.
To Mr. Blizovsky and Michael - indeed, not all religious people are tolerant. Just like not all atheists. But I tried to say that those who associate themselves with an enlightened public, should set an example and treat people's beliefs (even if they are wrong in his opinion) with respect.
Anyway - the eve of Yom Kippur today. Perhaps, despite your apostasy, you will take advantage of the sabbath that we cruel and domineering religious people have imposed on you and do a brief soul-searching: look around and experience the full sabbath and the atmosphere of faith. See that apostasy is a small island, a minority in the heart of the sea of faith. Understand that your future depends on cultivating tolerance and protecting minorities, because that is what you are - an eliminated minority. You have the right to speak and disagree about anything. Use it wisely. And... maybe you will take advantage of the holy and terrible day for a little soul-searching. Was it the religion that brought the atomic bomb to the world? the hydrogen bomb? Was it religion that brought synthetic narcotic drugs to the world? Was it the religion that brought into the world eugenics, the race theory, the premeditated killing of the retarded, the mentally ill, of Jews and homosexuals? Was it the religion that brought the ballistic missiles and other machines of destruction into the world? Did religion bring to the world the polluting chemical processes that threaten to bring our destruction upon the world? Is it religion that gave the whalers the modern equipment that allows them to exterminate God's creators from the face of the earth? Did religion invent thalidomide and sell it to unhappy mothers? And on the other hand - is it science that brought into the world "Thou shalt not murder", "Thou shalt not steal", "Thou shalt not covet", "Thou shalt redeem in judgment and redeem her in righteousness"? Science without accompanying morality is merely a blacksmith forging murderous instruments for a gang of robbers. And science, what to do, it has no relative advantage over religion in the development of morality. Therefore - be tolerant and less arrogant, people. You are nothing but small children playing with shells on the shore of the great and still-disappearing sea of knowledge. Humility, modesty and respect for others - will not harm you. I promise for my part, as a completely religious person, that I will fight until my last breath for your academic freedom. About your freedom of expression, conscience and belief. God Almighty will forgive you and make you believe in Him out of love. I will pray for you on Yom Kippur. There is no sin in you, except a spoiled education and arrogance.
Isaiah the slave:
Do you have something to say or just wanted to give us a score?
Isaiah is an idolater
Why hide, change your name to Jesus
Hashem worked for Isaiah
You talk about tolerance. Try to write news in the style published on this website on topics close to your heart, on religious websites. They won't survive a second, not even in the comments.
Answer to - Higgs "idol worshiper"?!, me?! God forbid Let him be killed and not pass. But let's put this empty blasphemy. I'm afraid you don't even have a shadow of a concept of what "idolatry" is. This is a halachic concept and you should check the terms you use before slapping them on others. Well Higgs, mainly my infidel, don't you prove with your so rational, so witty and tolerant response that I am right? Is this what you are able to produce through the wonders of your scientific knowledge? Alas for the exact sciences. Icha was the faithful cold science prostitute.
Isaiah is an idolater
come down to us aeroon put your head between your legs and kiss your a.. good bye
I thought I would find open-mindedness here, tolerance. I found here a kind of learned ignorance. Bland jokes by geeks are no substitute for an orderly lecture. To mock evilly at what is important in the eyes of the other person, even if the other person is wrong, in your opinion, does not make the mocker more righteous, but simply a bigot. Maybe you'll be willing to put aside for a moment your excessive self-confidence and nauseating smugness and open your mind to possibilities that you are unable to perceive, neither with your limited senses nor with your devices that in 100 years will look ridiculously primitive to geeks like you. There are bigger things in this world than the tiny bits of knowledge you may think you have.
Hugin:
In that you write "and it doesn't matter what the mental and perceptual reasons for this are" you miss the point! It actually matters a lot if you want to avoid these wars and the attitude of "it doesn't matter" will only keep them forever.
This is what I always argue against postmodernism.
Contrary to what is accepted in this approach, in reality there is truth and there is falsehood and giving equal status to both is simply a crime.
To all of Hugin's "Dorshai Shlomo"
I think you are exaggerating your attack on Hugin. We have here a respondent whose way of responding is more than a breath of fresh and interesting wind. There is no doubt that we do not have commenters like her. So first of all I ask that you try to understand her. For example, I am able to understand already about two thirds of her response and I bet on the remaining third and I must say that the result always turns out nice.
For example, let's analyze her words in response number 66, a response that I have a particular fondness for. Well, in her response to Michael, Hogin writes:-
"In any case, it is likely that they will also recognize your character in one of the grandmother's special projects here and there. And of course, with special affection, they will recognize the fascinating character of our Yehuda... who saved the grandmother from the mysterious and virtual jaws of the worlds of the thought of the vertices and thousands of other stories of one-of-a-kind and incredibly juicy days and nights ". End quote.
Of course, this is an excellent response especially to things she writes about someone named Yehuda (me??) who saved her from mysterious jaws (it's still clear that these are Michael and the rest of the predators) and Hugin continues - "virality of the worlds of thought of the vertices" (here I have to enter a bet, do I mean the two tips of her bright tassels???) and she continues," and thousands of other stories of days and nights (exactly! A thousand nights and nights!, Shahrazada!, I'm apparently on the right path!!) and the ending - "one of a kind and incredibly juicy" - what can I tell you, my dear , readers of the science, we have here the best Decamron stories, seasoned with the juicy "Kama Sutra", so tell me, dear readers, are our Hugin's words not interesting?? Is her response not juicy???,
Therefore, I demand from you to apologize, and whoever is unable to understand the words of the one and only, Hugin, our Hugin,...his entire loss!!
And Hogin says:-
Keep pouring in the comments and our nights will be full of songs.
I will always be here to save you from the predators of the lowest count.
Have a good week, happy new year and good night
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Michael
In animals, there are no wars of the type that brainy humans invented, and it doesn't matter what the perceptual mental reasons are for this. Man, as a thinking creature, has partially lost the purity of his innocent and intelligent nature.
I don't understand what the things are that you attribute nonsense to if they sustain and preserve the world, and the value of the sources of life. Yes, it is clear that the wars of the developed Jewish mind cause a loss of human dignity in extreme cases. To my great dismay, we are really and truly dealing with bland things. Useful..like our live..virtual examples.
Let's have a good signing finale.
Hugin:
Is this what you have to say about the reason for the survival of the Bible as a source of conflict?
The truth is that without meaning to - your answer really illustrates the point.
You are basically telling us that your grandchildren will be babies who have been captured and will therefore believe nonsense.
As I have mentioned many times - the blind faith of the Zatot is one of the things that allows religion to survive.
If there was a God, he would also protect your grandchildren.
Too bad there isn't.
A lost campaign.
Hugin
Retarded
Kofta Red-0
Know where you came from and where you are going. Otherwise we will have to chew you in some other ethereal way.
Hugin
This is talk from the vagina, well done
Sabtel'a Hugygina
Michael
Don't worry my grandchildren will believe for a simple reason: they will be wise and recognize all of their grandmother's exploits, read the books of rabbis and guard the embers as heirs who respect everything.
But another vision for the time. In any case, it is likely that they will also know your character in one of the grandmother's special projects here and there. And of course with a special affection they will know the fascinating character of our Yehuda... who saved the grandmother from the mysterious and virtual jaws of the worlds of the thought of the vertices and thousands of other stories of days and nights One of a kind and incredibly juicy.
What do you think?
Of course we will make sure not to omit or delete any of the essence of the history of the end of days.
Sabtel'a Hugygina the future.
Sorry - the above belongs to another correspondence.
I will attach it there as well.
Hugin:
As usual, you attribute hidden meanings to facts that are completely absent.
The explanation for the survival of the Bible as a source of conflict throughout the generations can be found, for example, in response 47 that I gave in the following link:
https://www.hayadan.org.il/baylor-survey-finds-new-perspectives-on-us-religious-landscape-2109089/
Although the fact that the Bible causes incessant conflicts would not imply ciphers found in it in any case, but I repeat and refer you to the above just so that you understand.
By the way: what is a "hidden reason"?
It is a term that is not defined without saying from whom that hidden reason.
There are, therefore, reasons that are hidden from your eyes and visible to me.
In general, the hiding of things is often the result of the decision not to look for them but to believe grandmother's stories.
I hope with all my heart that your grandchildren will not believe grandma's stories.
Yes sure…
I don't know a person who is not an atheist.
The majority (even if not the overwhelming majority, but the majority) of people in the world are atheists, either openly or openly.
Nonsense.
Google:
I have refrained from answering so far because we have no real disagreement, but still - when you say that you expected me to understand what you meant by "the destruction of the world" you are simply ignoring the fact that I spoke about it for the first time in this discussion and thus atonement, therefore what matters is what I meant and not what you meant To him and that I would expect you to understand.
I answered the question "which is better" seriously and I think that even if you approached the question with humor there were and will be people who could benefit from a serious answer.
Michael.
There are those who think that "the world" is only the earth...
There are those who think that "The World" is the name of a newspaper.
And there are those who think that "the world" is the entire planet.
Intentionally or accidentally you misunderstood my intention.
If I was talking about cooling and ionization, I would expect you to understand that I am not talking about a red giant, but about the expected expansion of the universe/world (according to current calculations).
Not bad. I condemn you to death.
I specifically addressed the question "what is better" to you. I didn't mean to ask a question but to illuminate a point that to me has even a little humor in it.
But leave it - it's already lost.
Another small note,
According to the ultra-Orthodox Mishnah, the world will not panic. There will be an ultra-Orthodox minority and the rest of the world will be their slaves.
I mean, your life and your life will not change much beyond the fact that maybe we will pay more taxes for the ultra-Orthodox and do cleaning shifts with them 🙂
So don't worry, the ultra-orthodox don't want to stop science - they just want money!
"New is forbidden by the Torah" - but if scientific development can add money to them, they will legalize it.
Yehuda:
I didn't liken the memes to a virus. I interpreted religion as collecting water into a virus - just as a biological virus collects genes.
The parallel is between a garden and a meme.
Of course there are also memes and meme collections that are "good".
I put the word "good" in quotes because everything is relative. The terms "good" and "bad" that we use (and rightly so, for us) are determined according to our scale of priorities. I guess different bacteria would think differently if they could.
I explained that what makes a group of religious memes "bad" and dangerous is the fact that it preserves itself and does not "suffer" from the consequences of critical thought. Not every meme collection is like this. The collection of science memes is clearly not like that.
Google:
If you disbelieve that the earth will be destroyed then you disbelieve the laws of physics.
For all we know the sun will turn into a red giant and make the earth uninhabitable (if it doesn't evaporate completely). After that it will fade and if the earth still remains solid then in the end no energy will reach it and life is not possible without energy.
If you say that you are an infidel with these conclusions accepted by every scientist, I have no choice but to say "So you are an infidel..." What can I do about it? If you offered an alternative prediction, I could try to deal with you, but there is no way to deal with mere heresy. This is simply a meaningless claim.
Regarding the dilemma "which is better?" - It is of course not well defined because the question is from whom.
I have no doubt that in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox it is better that the whole world be horrified.
The fact that all science will stop as a result and not long after that the human population will be destroyed by bacteria and viruses that will no longer find anyone to deal with is less interesting to them.
In general, the facts do not interest them.
But if we agree (and we don't have to) that an enlightened, cultured, educated world, where people live who have the ability to truly choose freely, is good, then what is better is that the ultra-orthodox heal.
Roy Cezana Michael
"The memes" are a good idea.
Purposeful is a different definition of "frame of reference"
There is no field of knowledge without a frame of reference. Whether in exact science or alternative science such as astrology and the like.
Such a framework consists of a collection of basic assumptions, axioms whose various combinations can be used to form meaningful patterns.
Similar to tiling surfaces using a bunch of polygons and basic shapes. Asher's paintings deal a lot with the meanings that arise from combinations of forms. The book "Gedal Asher Bach" deals with the problem of how cognitive meaning was born from basic patterns.
The constant search for the meanings of life is in fact a search for a fundamental collection of axioms that will allow the assembly of maximum sequences and combinations, i.e. maximum meanings.
The freedom of choice is a direct function of the number of possible meanings for a given set of building blocks.
Dawkins tries to frame this process in an original way. and gives it a name. This gives him the freedom to create meanings that overlap with his own frame of reference.
There is no significant gap between the atheist Dawkins and the 66% subject of this article. Everyone needs a frame of reference. Call it beliefs, a collection of axioms, genetic memory or embryonic cognitive cells.
Godel was the first to prove to Hilbert's defender that there is no way to know that a certain set of axioms is closed or final for every combination. There will always be meaningless combinations.
Although the words "We will know" were engraved on Hilbert's tombstone, but certainly also "RIP".
This problem no longer bothers him.
To Judah
You have a double in the puzzle, he is a main motive for what is happening in Tsern - your place is more connected to the scenario than I could ever imagine. I am not sure if you understand, I am not sure that I should continue with you now. It is possible that you will be given a second chance - it is also possible that I should let go of you as well.
Today is the 22.9.2008nd of Elul XNUMX. It is also possible that the supreme will to which I am connected is greater than my needs.
Time and time... and we'll see.
Hugin: In the secret worlds.
to google
Therefore, he must undergo a metamorphosis - there is no choice!
Michael.
Who talked about a demographic problem?
All in all I raised a dilemma about which is better.
I disbelieve in the statement that the world will be destroyed. For the simple reason - we do not have enough information and knowledge to determine this. And even if we accept the current theory that talks about the cooling and ionization of matter - we still don't know what we or other forces around the universe can do to intervene in the (yet) unknown future.
Also - the statement "religion is only good for itself" is not clear to me - even if religion has its own existence as a parasite - in the end it is a template created by humans for themselves (whether for selfish or collective reasons).
Therefore, the more correct saying (in my opinion) is "religion is good for some people"
What is it similar to? For a pyramid game - it is good for its creator and a few other agile people.
Side note: the meme theory is interesting but it seems to me that it invites quite a few paradoxes
And regarding your response to Morfal, "Don't answer a fool as his folly, lest you also compare him." What advantage did you see in going down to this level?
Lahugin: When a radish develops, it only loses its flavor.
For Michael, Yehuda and Roy.
I saw that you focused on memes and the selfish garden.
The irony of fate that my encrypted selfish garden stands out especially, but it includes "the totality of all the selfish ones" is it a collective selfish garden for the sum total of all your hidden desires from the beginning to this day including the purpose of the north, the purpose of the Lord in you? Which of you considers himself developed enough to understand the totality of all The totality of chariots and the future of humanity that aspires through all the dreams encoded in your sleep from the lowest level to the levels of the clear purpose to continue? We all agree at least in the summary of this site that evolution is levels of development. Have you not asked yourself if at this time something seems to have reached a universal congestion and therefore all the symptoms and phenomena appear, which you Do you define them as unbearable in the general scenario?? We have arrived in terms of the total
to the point of no return-the general pee.
The Bezern accelerator was built from the sum of the wishes of at least 5000 scientists!!! from all over the world. It is a mass of shared true will. Each selfish gene more or less as an individual sees a certain part or parts of a bigger picture
But do any of you see purposeful causality in the evolutionary scenario?? I do! Actually
Number 1 expert in your northern trains - encrypted. My work is very complex. Many scenarios and experience. My being is stubborn and flexible at the same time. You beat me at the Hebrew stations, more than once.
In fact, several times I was almost destroyed by the likes of you, out of ignorance or from the same blind scenario of
A selfish garden to the point of extreme blindness, the one who watches over you and does everything to fulfill all of your lofty and good desires in weighing a higher plan for the continued development of lofty ages
And beautiful. We have 40 years from today + to bring you to a state of awareness-a more developed consciousness in order to move on (a higher phase-easier). This is not a fantasy in Alma- this is an encrypted purpose
It will be supreme. It will be in any case. The question is whether the place of each of you (not only on the site) is ready for a noble spiritual value to rise above the selfish garden inherent in it and transform it into a lofty chariot garden. It is impossible to connect with it without ascending to the octave level of "desire - Supreme - Sublime", those who insist - are blocking themselves and thus harming both themselves and the relative seers of their kind. They are about to descend into the world to give birth to highly developed beings - very high frequency level - very ancient - who do not
They have been here in Arsh-Eretz for ages. They miss "home". They cannot come down as long as you are in low scenario levels. You will harm them and you. Their power is transparent - like me.
My role throughout all the years of my life is to pave the way for them and you for the long-awaited meeting. And to continue to the supreme purpose
The continuous. A more refined but powerful evolution that you have never known before.
It is impossible to include in this evolution a poor soul. Therefore, to your question Yehuda, all the religious zombies were required to do this, in order to curb their dark instincts that sit deep in the historical scenario accelerated in order to
To soften their innermost. It is not possible to be in the blackening evolution at the door under drugs and medicines - this
Creates metaphysical (general) and personal blockages and does not allow users to clean and contain
The Rom program has a purpose. Therefore - some of them let go and gather in their spirit - to their collective names - channels
Their families, etc. There are many development prisms here
all the peripheral content, and today's place is too busy to flood you too.
To my great joy, the hatch to you-the-peaks-of-the-information-through the Internet has been opened, so that the levels of refinement and privacy allow a transfer to preparation and inclusion without threatening you.
Mine are thin and transparent pointed. This is me in many ways (so don't cry you are beautiful monkeys - you are similar to my family, my really beautiful lineage - filtered shades). All races are related to us - all shades, but at the highest levels of refinement.
There are many more, but we'll see..
Yehuda - T.L. We'll wait with this - too much for one hour.. Later.. Well, write me a song…….
Michael - I read all the comments - following your path to development.
Regards to Lafi-Malev-Tov.
Hugin: First source - self developed from birth - committed to me and to you in the future.
Huge for many rounds in practice-in research-in contribution-and in addition which is the sum of all that you are.
Nice, nice, to Roy, apparently I will have to refresh myself in the aforementioned book by Dawkins.
Good Day
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Yehuda,
The idea of memes was first raised by Richard Dawkins in his book 'The Selfish Garden' and since then it has been used by many to understand various human behaviors.
Sorry for lashing out, I'll let Michael continue to explain.
Roy.
To Michael
I liked your gene memes. The explanation is thought provoking.
A small mistake, in my opinion memes, unlike viruses, cannot pass on their own minds and an action (explanation, coercion) is required from the bearer. Although in both cases the damage can be great.
And by the way, aren't there possible memes that have a positive effect?, wouldn't we like to believe that our memes are positive?
And by the way, memes is your invention?
Lahugin: 26.5.46
Time 22:30 (minus plus half an hour)
So make me wise in my heavenly qualities.
Good night
Sabdarmish Yehuda
Donkey:
Is Fel short for clown?
Atheism = mental disorder and nothing else
Now the only question is if it is genetic
Asaf:
What you are doing is not really smart.
You just choose to define God differently than the rest of us.
It's like you would define your table as God and then show us that there is a God because your table exists.
Google:
My words were not presented as a way to solve the demographic problem.
The world will eventually be destroyed.
is it bad In our terms of course - but it's a fact nonetheless.
Will the world eventually be ruled by zombies of some religion?
Can be. It would be a shame for us - humans - but this is not a reason to define religion as a good thing for humans. As I mentioned in my previous response - religion is good...only for itself.
The selfish meme.
age:
Some people are animals and nothing else.
Most of us are not like that.
Animals have no opinions, deep thoughts or… religions.
The animals are controlled by their genetic order and nothing else.
A human being is different.
In man, thoughts play a much more important role than the body.
In fact, a person identifies with his thoughts more than with his body, therefore even after a serious accident, even if a large part of his body stopped functioning and a part even stopped existing - as long as his mind is not damaged - he will continue to be the same person.
The thoughts and ideas that "play" in a person's mind are also given a name - "memes" on the weight of "genes".
These memes are copied from person to person and mutate along the way in a similar way to genes (only with less precision and without being subject to the body's birth processes, since they can pass from one person to another during life as well)
This is the reason why, at the same time as man follows his genetic order and produces offspring, he also follows the order of his thoughts and tries to produce disciples.
Memes can be seen as a kind of "parasitic" entity on the human mind.
I put the word "parasitic" in quotation marks because this presentation of things ignores the fact that man actually defines himself mainly by the collection of memes that make up his thoughts, but it is still true to say that memes can only exist thanks to the minds that house them.
Religion, any religion, is a collection of memes.
A religion that survives is a collection of water that preserves itself.
I repeat - he preserves himself and not necessarily the person who carries it in his mind.
How does he preserve himself?
For example by memes of "death for the sanctification of Hashem".
For example by memes of murder for the sanctification of Hashem.
For example by all kinds of lies about scientific truths hidden in the Torah.
Not missing.
Why do I say that he preserves himself and not the inn?
it's clear. After all, death for the sanctification of Hashem does not preserve the abode, but if it had not been coined, everyone would have converted to their religion when it was convenient and then - even though the people would have all remained alive - the religion would have been lost.
That is why it is better for a religion to sometimes sacrifice some people (for whom they are just a platform to survive itself).
This is exactly what happened throughout history and that is why I always say that the Jewish religion survived at the expense of its people.
Judaism survived and the Jews died.
The number of descendants of those who were not Jewish two thousand years ago is hundreds of times greater than the number of descendants of those who were Jewish.
In short - it is not correct to see religion as a mechanism that has a positive role in the survival of the human race.
In fact her role is horribly negative, precisely for the reasons I mentioned.
Religion becomes especially dangerous because of a certain feature of humans that I already mentioned when I told Hugin about Arthur Koestler's book - The Ghost in the Machine.
In this book, the author laments the trait we have as humans to perform as a herd, such horrific actions that we would never dare to perform as individuals.
There are all kinds of herds of people and religion is one of them.
This is where my words connect with Leopardod's response.
First of all - a large part of the examples you gave of things that cause wars are actually examples of religions, in the sense that they represent a collection of memes that is accepted without criticism and preserves itself without compromise.
Communism and Nazism are religions for all intents and purposes even if they are not based on God because they have (false) axioms which are accepted without any criticism and from which crazy behavior arises.
Equally, nationalistic fanaticism is a religion.
Whether you agree that it is correct to call these phenomena "religions" or not, what is important to notice is that all the evil in these phenomena stems from the same sources from which the evil in religions originates: a collection of memes, some of which are wrong, that preserves itself at the expense of humans.
It is really appropriate to call such a collection of memes a mental virus and just like it it can cause a plague and even take over all humans.
Does that mean it's true? of course not.
Does that mean it's helpful? of course not. It is extremely harmful, it kills many people, and even if it eventually succeeds in taking over the minds of all the people it did not kill, they will cease to be people in the true sense of the word.
age.
You claim that "the human being is fundamentally living according to the rules of the majority
Faith is another part that caused the survival of the human race"
Are you claiming that man is an animal?
What are the majority rules?
Faith is another part of... what?
Faith caused the survival of the human race??? That is, faith is a "tool" that served the human race in its war against the other species in the world? I wonder how many mammoths the ancient man killed with the help of faith...
But, sorry.
Even if I follow your method (I have many mistakes about it), then, like everything, in the process of natural selection, the fitter will survive.
Therefore, if there is a better program than faith/religion "for the survival of the human race" then it will win...
In the meantime, it seems that science and the modern way of life contribute much more to the strengthening and survival of the human race.... So in your opinion, will science and the modern and enlightened way of life replace religion?
In the year of the BaalT / BaalR drought, would you like us to pray to God or to build a prayer facility?
(Please spare me obscure answers such as "both" - the matter is fundamental)
Michael - which is better? 66% who believe in angels and religious priests who don't have children? Or 10% who believe in angels and their religious priests bring forth also bring forth children?
(I smell a dilemma here... maybe game theory will help)
Happy New Year to you Michael
Most of Europe believes in God...
Sad to hear, sad
Yehuda !
You are right if you refer to the firebird or phoenix as a dragon.
What is most true and common is this - the "egg".
Hugin: For details.. (By the way, when do we celebrate your birthday on the website?? Exactly. And thanks for the exact information about the accelerator, D-last night..)
The birds are the evolutionary descendants of the dinos, but the dinosaurs do not exist in the same way as they used to and they did not become extinct 7000 years ago.
To all Man Dibai
The birds are the descendants of the dinosaurs and still exist.
Good Day
Sabdarmish Yehuda
collect,
There is some connection between religion and ignorance, it's really impossible to generalize, I know many religious people who are not ignorant at all and also ask themselves questions, but in the end average people without knowledge tend to be terribly ignorant, I know a religious woman who thinks that dinosaurs are still alive because it is written somewhere, It seems to me that she said from the Bible, that the dinosaurs became extinct 7000 years ago and a very small part survived and the humans were not able to find them, I must say that for such a thing and a female in the number of 7000 years for the extinction of the dinosaurs there is nothing to say, how can you sell to such people, it is almost like showing someone newspaper and he will say that it is actually the sun.
Without the desire to enter into the fruitless debate, there is God! Not an alien force, not a creator and creator but
The personal conscience, knowledge, information, etc. of anyone who does not know or does not want to call these qualities and facts that have not yet been explained by their scientific name,
As for angels, it is enough to see the American films to understand that they are made for
The audience with the lowest average, movies that depict superheroes, monsters, etc.
Planting in the audience ignorance and belief in nonsense, the Americans are experts in this,
To most of the surprise (perhaps not) when checking thoroughly it turns out that conservatism and ignorance (and religion)
are connected in a stable and permanent relationship, that is, only 66% are ignorant in the USA...
It's amazing.
"Michael the high priest minister and guardian over Israel"@@@@
And this is a wake-up blessing - for the new sun: aaaaap-tsi...to health to you-and to all honesty"al=am"i-chai.@
Hugin: For the enlightened and educated in goods.
I understand Michael's comparison to the virus, there is some human drive that causes the phenomena he spoke of.
There is no doubt that religion has caused a lot of wars, but I'm not sure that only it should be blamed, but human nature, human nature causes wars based on race (Germany), form of government (the USA tries to prevent the spread of communism, aid to Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.), Territory, oil, spices, and there are endless other examples that can be given.
You can go down to the micro level and see what people fight/kill about - almost anything, so it's no wonder that a charged topic like religion will lead to so many wars. (It's just a shame that this stopped the progress of science)
Michael you are larger than life.
It is true that faith can be blamed for all wars
As probably the monkeys can also be blamed for the wars between them
or the lack of oil in the world as a cause of wars
It's all how you look at it, and what you want to see.
You are putting things together incorrectly
Man is a living being who lives according to the rules of the majority
Faith is another part that caused the survival of the human race
Michael: For Israel, get: "Virus-the guardian angel bar 144 bearers-of the universal supreme brotherhood"-Haanlamit.
Hugin: With the blessing of the road to everyone: You will be good in the land and a great light 21.12.2008 to humanity.
Yad - Yad - Yisrael = Hatfusot = ISRAEL
age:
Regarding the number of children:
Indeed, the demographic problem is a problem (these days, when the establishment allows the ultra-Orthodox to live at my expense).
This is not the case everywhere and of course the monks have no children at all.
Whatever it is - it does not make the religion correct.
sympathetic:
If you care then there is no God.
If you don't care then 2+2=5
You see?
Anyone can chatter.
age:
This is not science fiction.
Are you familiar with a computer virus?
The religion virus works in a very similar way.
He cares about spreading himself.
He enslaves qualities that such and such a person has, such as the tendency to believe in the things that his parents hold dear to him.
He makes people afraid of deviating from his instructions.
He makes people kill those who deviate from his instructions.
In short - a virus for all intents and purposes.
Not in the newspapers and not in plaster.
leopard:
I do not disbelieve in the help of positive thinking, but it depends on the context in which it is used.
My aunt thought a very positive thought and was sure that this nonsense would help her.
If she hadn't believed in them, she would probably have been cured, even without a positive thought.
It is clear that if she had thought positive thoughts about the means of conventional medicine her chances would have increased even more.
Just for the exercise even though it doesn't require all beliefs
How many children does a religious family have?
Michael,
I don't agree so much with the link to the homeopath topic, the case you presented does not relate to faith and thought (perhaps to faith in humans), once you have a choice between X and Y an informed choice will improve your chances of achieving better results.
Once a person is ill with a certain disease, it has been proven that a positive thought improves the chances of recovery by tens of percent, while negative and resentful thoughts greatly decrease the chances of recovery.
If you care then you have God…
I didn't think you were in the science fiction "virus that took over people's minds" section
You can't take an end point of some homeopath and turn it into something inclusive
age:
This is exactly an epidemic.
It's a virus that has taken over people's minds and nothing else.
It's not an epidemic it always has been since the Henderthal creature
Wherever we look in the past, we will always find faith in every corner, in every village, in every town in the world.
It is clear that this is part of the genetics we inherited from our ancestors, which is deeply embedded in the survival of the human race.
I had an aunt who believed the words of some astrologer who claimed that she would get well if she followed the instructions of some homeopath and replaced the medicines she received from the doctor with the potions the homeopath gave her.
She also believed the homeopath who gave her the potion.
She died out of faith.
age:
Imagine that at the time of the black plague there was someone claiming that most people had the disease and therefore this is a sign that those who did not get it died out during evolution.
First of all, I think that religion is one of the most distorted things that exist on earth, the religious concept was originally intended to control the masses, but if you look at the basic values of the religion, they are moral and just, over the years the religion has been distorted to some extent, there are many religious people who are even aware that there are many Religious and ultra-Orthodox who take religion to an ugly place and use the help of religion to get money, positions, etc.
Personally, I make a complete separation between a higher power and religion, religion is the creation of man in the end, I do not believe in any religion whether there is a higher power or not and in my opinion the two things are completely separate.
Regarding a higher power, I have a bit of a problem with the definition of this word similar to the word "supernatural" - I believe that anyone with more than 5 IQ can understand that the word creates a conflict with itself when the reference system is the universe(s) we live in and not fantasy fiction, , because when a phenomenon exists it cannot be supernatural.
If so what is meant by a higher power can be a power superior to human beings, as for whether there is any power I cannot argue for or against, in my opinion humans have such a minimal amount of knowledge and we cannot draw conclusions from this, the more I learn the more I fixate on the answer that it is not possible To know what exists or does not exist in the world, quantum theory is perhaps the best example.
So maybe yes? maybe not? , Einstein advocated skepticism about everything he was taught and I agree with him.
What is really important in my opinion is faith (and not religion), when a person thinks positively it has positive effects, scientists have already proven that thought has an effect even on computers.
In blessing, think that you will have a good day today, for sure it will improve your feeling.
P.S. It was so expected that this topic would attract a lot of comments
age:
What nonsense! Just unbelievable!
Reality speaks for itself
After all, most of the world does believe more than 90%
So apparently all the rest became extinct in Charles Darwin's process of evolution and natural selection
For the happy shepherds and Lafi./Also for Gil...and all the thirst to understand.
Blind faith is indeed a devious and misleading thing. Blind knowledge is no different at all. Dry science is the same
In Iztala "Floosit" and maybe even more. Fanatic religion will also connect to the same place.
So what's left?? Put everything together, maybe finally something good, also from you - like all of you, will come out.
Hoggin: In a word from a scholar.
age:
And what does "perform better" mean?
Do they earn more?
Do they promote the world more?
Are they more moral?
Are they involved in fewer wars?
Are they happier?
Just so you don't jump on the last question and share with us your illusions about it, you should know some facts:
1. People addicted to drugs think they are happier with the drug, so comparing religion to the opium of the masses is really apt.
2. A study done in the area surrounding Gaza revealed that religious children suffer from post-traumatic syndrome more than their non-religious peers.
Faith is the need of the human race for everything to be under control
The constant need to be in control in a world where there is no tomorrow
Science cannot provide these goods.
The closest thing to it is the cell phone
Those who believe sleep much better at night
And in the end also perform better
Because there is always some angel watching over them, even if he doesn't really exist.
The Jews in the US are only two percent, so even a low estimate of 4 percent of atheists still puts them ahead of the Jews. What to do with the fact that some Jews are atheists... I don't know.
jubilee,
Unfortunately, I didn't invent the invisible pink unicorn. You can read about it at
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%93_%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%95%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%93%D7%94_%D7%94%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%99_%D7%A0%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%99%D7%AA
Hugin,
I call him simply 'Laffy'.
For all the educated and scientific idiots on the science website:
tell me are you crazy???
How could I as a person create you?? Did you fall on your head??
I am a creature of nature born to a wonderful father to a wonderful mother that I wish for each and every one. The matter is a soup-top of the sum total of all the lineages of humanity that gathered with me at birth. Grouping grouping. The essence of all that is preserved until the end of all.
Let me tell you that my family and my lineage also ate, ate, too, all the "shit" you messed up too. Here here
In the beloved homeland of Israel. Shame on you!! ~ Just be ashamed of yourself in a big way!!! Eaters of empire guard your eternity. May you never dare to steal again. Freedom!!! You do not mess with me and my holy name!!!
Hugin: In the name of the entire sacred eternal dynasty - and the empress of the world!!! Indeed!!
And Roy: If you want to be evil as well, I strongly recommend that you name your computer at least "Lev-Tov",
It will be a balm for you and everyone!
Harut, someone asked, took, to enslave you ever from my family??? Shame on you big time!!!!
Ignorance is not an excuse!!! Remember!!! Respect!!
If there is a God then who created God? Think for yourself and internalize…
Cezana, I think you're on to something here.
I suggest you write a book about it and start preaching to people, preferably such weak ones, with many problems, easy prey.
Don't forget to also include beautiful and childish stories and many words of praise for the unicorn.
"King" is a strong word, "great", "our saviors" - I heard that a good seller, "ashes at your feet" - always works.
If you need proofreading contact me, you should, I'm "just a writer"..
point
From my experience I learned that even if you bring four idiots and one moron in four commas and one line...
There is no guarantee that you will be smarter.
*I don't understand why it is so scientifically important what this moron or another idiot thinks or believes.
1) The majority of the "believers" do not understand and know nothing and a half of the philosophy of their religion that some great philosophers wrote.
2) That idiot, if he had been born into a family with a different religion (Muslim, Jewish, Indian, secular), then he would have believed in the same religion. Therefore, the only thing that can be learned from this survey is that an idiot remains an idiot even if he has adopted a different religion.
Avi,
I refuse to believe in a flying spaghetti monster that created me. You take a colleague's assumption and twist it, attributing creation to a completely ridiculous creature. I want to challenge: it is clear that there is a God, who created the world and the universe, and he is not a ridiculous 'spaghetti monster'. The invisible pink unicorn is the one who created everything, and I'm willing to give away my laptop to anyone who can provide empirical evidence that she didn't create the universe.
Good morning jubilee in Scotland
Hugin: To an archangel - also a Toltec……………:)
colleague! Is your question rhetorical?
Although an answer to the question of how the universe was created has not yet been found, this does not mean that it will not be found. There are in the world a large number of people, called "scientists", who are looking for answers and also inform those who are interested in hearing their discoveries. Although the universe appears to be made with great wisdom, we do not need to jump to far-reaching conclusions about the attributes and qualities of the Creator. As much as it can be an intelligent being that works miracles, it can also be something completely unintelligent that works very slowly over an enormous amount of time.
You have 15 billion years to sit down and internalize.
to a colleague The answer is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. She created you, me, the site and all our memories five minutes ago. 🙂
If there is no God then who created the world and the universe? Sit back and internalize..
And there is also an inverse correlation between reason and faith as it is easy to see here:
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html
There is no God, period.